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Life

Vinayaka

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Jimmy said:
During your brief life in the world do you think you’ll have a better chance at finding the answers you’re looking for in a book or by pondering alone? Also what are the chances of your ponderings being exactly like what’s written in ink?
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Pondering alone, but that pondering must be done in a productive way. Books are other peoples opinions, and as we all know, often contradictory as to the meaning of life.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Jimmy said:
During your brief life in the world do you think you’ll have a better chance at finding the answers you’re looking for in a book or by pondering alone? Also what are the chances of your ponderings being exactly like what’s written in ink?
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By my own ponderings. Books are very restrictive when it comes to spiritual exploration. If the books disappeared and one needed an answer to an important question, what would one do?

Books are good for inspiration and some guidance, but they are temporary. After awhile reading the same book again and again and studying it it kinda gets boring cause I'd know what happens. I don't know what will happen in life. So much more to learn from.
 
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nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
Jimmy said:
During your brief life in the world do you think you’ll have a better chance at finding the answers you’re looking for in a book or by pondering alone? Also what are the chances of your ponderings being exactly like what’s written in ink?
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Both reading and pondering are necessary for knowledge and understanding in everything in life... from science to growing up in pampers.

Millions who have not grown up on books usually find themselves in books, some going back to school, and expressing what they missed out on.

People who don't read depend on others to give them information, which they themselves gained.

One must ponder knowledge taken in through the sense - a larger part gained through books... unless one prefers to spend their life in front of the idiot box.
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The Bible is one of the most ancient text, containing knowledge, and for many, there is good reason to ponder over what it contains.
(Psalm 119:97-105) 97 How I do love your law! I ponder over it all day long. 98 Your commandment makes me wiser than my enemies, Because it is with me forever. 99 I have more insight than all my teachers, Because I ponder over your reminders. 100 I act with more understanding than older men, Because I observe your orders. 101 I refuse to walk on any evil path, So that I may keep your word. 102 I do not turn aside from your judgments, For you have instructed me. 103 How sweet your sayings are to my palate, More so than honey to my mouth! 104 By your orders I act with understanding. That is why I hate every false path. נ [Nun] 105 Your word is a lamp to my foot, And a light for my path.
(1 Timothy 4:15, 16) 15 Ponder over these things; be absorbed in them, so that your advancement may be plainly seen by all people. 16 Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.
(Psalm 1:1-3) 1 Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers. 2 But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And he reads His law in an undertone day and night. 3 He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliage of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.
 
sayak83

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Jimmy said:
During your brief life in the world do you think you’ll have a better chance at finding the answers you’re looking for in a book or by pondering alone? Also what are the chances of your ponderings being exactly like what’s written in ink?
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I pondered alone to get the answer I am looking for. Then I had to consult books and general life experience to understand how to implement the answer in life.
 
Hockeycowboy

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Dan From Smithville said:
Wouldn't severe blood loss be one of those conditions where a transfusion is about the only treatment. I am just curious. I thought there were exceptions to the rule.
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When those extreme situations arise, there is usually nothing that could guarantee the patient would not die.

To us, we consider it to be, not a health issue, but an obedience issue...Acts of the Apostles 15:28-29...”necessary things.”

So (to our POV), we would rather die faithfully, than possibly live unfaithfully. (Revelation 2:10) Really, it is possible that we could eventually get sick, compromise our immune system, etc., because of accepting blood, then die weeks or months later. That happened to my stepfather....he contracted Hepatitis C, which killed him.

And ultimately, doesn’t our future life rest in God’s hands?

That’s just how we view it,


We’re highly interactive w/ the medical community, and due to our stance, there have been quite a few breakthroughs in bloodless surgery, and we are very grateful! (If you want, google “bloodless surgery”.)

As JW’s, we love life; just not at the expense of what we consider would be disobedience.

Take care, @Dan From Smithville ; it’s been a while since we “dialogued”!
 
Hockeycowboy

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
stvdv said:
No that is false.

They know that it's all God's Grace

That's what I believe. I think that's what they believe also. IF wrong THEN let me know;)
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I appreciate your kind thoughts.

Let me just briefly say this... Isaiah 11:9 says “the Earth will be filled with the knowledge of the LORD (YHWH / Yahweh / Jehovah)....”
Notice, it hasn’t happened, yet. But when these “last days” of turmoil are over with, then everyone will experience God’s goodness to the fullest. His “Grace” will be evident everywhere, and all who endured injustices, even death, will have the opportunity to be reconciled back into God’s universal family.

Hope that’s brief enough?
 
King Phenomenon

King Phenomenon

Well-Known Member
Hockeycowboy said:
When those extreme situations arise, there is usually nothing that could guarantee the patient would not die.

To us, we consider it to be, not a health issue, but an obedience issue...Acts of the Apostles 15:28-29...”necessary things.”

So (to our POV), we would rather die faithfully, than possibly live unfaithfully. (Revelation 2:10) Really, it is possible that we could eventually get sick, compromise our immune system, etc., because of accepting blood, then die weeks or months later. That happened to my stepfather....he contracted Hepatitis C, which killed him.

And ultimately, doesn’t our future life rest in God’s hands?

That’s just how we view it,


We’re highly interactive w/ the medical community, and due to our stance, there have been quite a few breakthroughs in bloodless surgery, and we are very grateful! (If you want, google “bloodless surgery”.)

As JW’s, we love life; just not at the expense of what we consider would be disobedience.

Take care, @Dan From Smithville ; it’s been a while since we “dialogued”!
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Hockeycowboy said:
When those extreme situations arise, there is usually nothing that could guarantee the patient would not die.

To us, we consider it to be, not a health issue, but an obedience issue...Acts of the Apostles 15:28-29...”necessary things.”

So (to our POV), we would rather die faithfully, than possibly live unfaithfully. (Revelation 2:10) Really, it is possible that we could eventually get sick, compromise our immune system, etc., because of accepting blood, then die weeks or months later. That happened to my stepfather....he contracted Hepatitis C, which killed him.

And ultimately, doesn’t our future life rest in God’s hands?

That’s just how we view it,


We’re highly interactive w/ the medical community, and due to our stance, there have been quite a few breakthroughs in bloodless surgery, and we are very grateful! (If you want, google “bloodless surgery”.)

As JW’s, we love life; just not at the expense of what we consider would be disobedience.

Take care, @Dan From Smithville ; it’s been a while since we “dialogued”!
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So it is true. I just lost all respect for jehovas witnesses
 
R

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Life without coercion.

I am born. Nurtured by two humans. Have human brothers and sisters.

Life.

I am just one self. I am aware.

I don't own anything else. I just live by supportive conditions.

Telling my life self truth not lying or coercing for self gain.
 
King Phenomenon

King Phenomenon

Well-Known Member
rational experiences said:
Life without coercion.

I am born. Nurtured by two humans. Have human brothers and sisters.

Life.

I am just one self. I am aware.

I don't own anything else. I just live by supportive conditions.

Telling my life self truth not lying or coercing for self gain.
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God O stone weeps dragon bite cookie crumb forbidding scab touch into open remedies.
 
stvdv

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Hockeycowboy said:
I appreciate your kind thoughts.

Let me just briefly say this... Isaiah 11:9 says “the Earth will be filled with the knowledge of the LORD (YHWH / Yahweh / Jehovah)....”
Notice, it hasn’t happened, yet. But when these “last days” of turmoil are over with, then everyone will experience God’s goodness to the fullest. His “Grace” will be evident everywhere, and all who endured injustices, even death, will have the opportunity to be reconciled back into God’s universal family.

Hope that’s brief enough?
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Yes, that's brief enough

Reading it, it seems to me that my "All is God's Grace" though very brief, is quite to the point
 
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