Question mostly to the Christians in RF (but everyone can answer)

Conscious thoughts said:

To me it is like dishonor of the the person who has died, and for the family who is left behind.

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Conscious thoughts said:

To me it is like dishonor of the the person who has died, and for the family who is left behind.

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MatthewA said:

I agree with you on that. Would not have liked listening to the crack of caskets breaking upon being driven over?

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Conscious thoughts said:

I do not think the casket was damaged, the soil there was not compact, so when the wheel when down i believe it did not harm the casket. did not hear any cracking sound.

But my heart did brake when saw this happening. so i told my boss i will not take part in those things again

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Conscious thoughts said:

As you maybe have seen in one of my past OP, at the moment i working part time on a cemetary. And yes it is outside a church here in Norway. But my work is mostly on the Muslim cemetary that has a area on the cemetary i work on.

While i was working today, my boss asked me to help the other guys plan out the graves after they was filled with earth after the funerals (mostly the graves are left alone for a month or two before this kind of work.
But i want to ask the christians on this forum about something that happen during this work.

one of my co workers was driving the tractor to deliver soil that we use to put on top of the graves.
And then i see him driving the tractor ontop of other graves, and the wheels digging down in to the graves......
I honestly felt horried and upset on the behalf body in the grave. I even asked my boss if this was the normal way to do it. He did not answer me clearly....

How do you christians think and feel about this kind of situation?
To me it is like dishonor of the the person who has died, and for the family who is left behind.

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MatthewA said:

Understandable. Interesting work you do though, conscious thoughts. How long have you been doing that type of work for?

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ChristineM said:

Not a christian but I'll give my two peneth. The earth must be packed down one way or another, either with time or mechanical means. It seems to me the digger driver was (pardon the pub) killing two birds with one stone. No matter how the job must be done.

Throughout history everyone dies, where they end up could be inconvenient for modern life if people knew they were walking or driving over long dead bodies. I refer you to Richard III and his resting place in what turned out to be a car park.

In the end the dead won't mind, maybe surviving relatives will have something to say.

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Conscious thoughts said:

As you maybe have seen in one of my past OP, at the moment i working part time on a cemetary. And yes it is outside a church here in Norway. But my work is mostly on the Muslim cemetary that has a area on the cemetary i work on.

While i was working today, my boss asked me to help the other guys plan out the graves after they was filled with earth after the funerals (mostly the graves are left alone for a month or two before this kind of work.
But i want to ask the christians on this forum about something that happen during this work.

one of my co workers was driving the tractor to deliver soil that we use to put on top of the graves.
And then i see him driving the tractor ontop of other graves, and the wheels digging down in to the graves......
I honestly felt horried and upset on the behalf body in the grave. I even asked my boss if this was the normal way to do it. He did not answer me clearly....

How do you christians think and feel about this kind of situation?
To me it is like dishonor of the the person who has died, and for the family who is left behind.

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We Never Know said:

I was raised that its disrespectful to walk on the grave of another and to avoid doing so any way possible. At 60 I still agree with that and practice it today.

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passerby said:

Respecting the dead is as ancient as humanity, and indeed is a universal and timeless feature of all religions. As child I was always taught to walk around the graves, even unmarked ones (which you had to guess!) as a sign of respect. Now I'm not so observant of this in the same way, but try my best.
Just as a matter of interest I saw a documentary about a Muslim burial recently, where the mourners were responsible for in filling the grave after an internment. They all took it in turns to fill the grave as a final act for the deceased. The guy whose Grandmother was being buried said that only Muslims do this. I sort of took objection to that claim because after Catholic internments the mourners traditionally throw soil onto the coffin. Although we don't pick up a spade we do all share the filling in in a pared back but no less solemn and respectful way.

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Conscious thoughts said:

As you maybe have seen in one of my past OP, at the moment i working part time on a cemetary. And yes it is outside a church here in Norway. But my work is mostly on the Muslim cemetary that has a area on the cemetary i work on.

While i was working today, my boss asked me to help the other guys plan out the graves after they was filled with earth after the funerals (mostly the graves are left alone for a month or two before this kind of work.
But i want to ask the christians on this forum about something that happen during this work.

one of my co workers was driving the tractor to deliver soil that we use to put on top of the graves.
And then i see him driving the tractor ontop of other graves, and the wheels digging down in to the graves......
I honestly felt horried and upset on the behalf body in the grave. I even asked my boss if this was the normal way to do it. He did not answer me clearly....

How do you christians think and feel about this kind of situation?
To me it is like dishonor of the the person who has died, and for the family who is left behind.

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Unveiled Artist said:

I agree. In the US, graveyard rules say don't walk on the graves. If I gave to,I take off my shoes. I've always been like that for some reason. Was never taught.

I'm not sure if they got it from Christianity or not. My friend is the opposite. She doesn't know why people go cemetaries to talk with the "dead". She's Christian and feels since her loved ones have gone with god it's a waste to talk to them. It also mirrors,in my opinion, that Protestants don't have Christ on the cross because he has risen. Catholic churches are probably have the same sentiment as you than other christians.

It depends. Christian or not, it's still disrespectful. Maybe suggest a rule for the respect of the families?

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sun rise said:

This is a brand new question to me - I've never considered it before. So I only have initial thoughts/questions.

My natural inclination would to not walk on a grave. It would not feel right to me. It's a feeling and not something I learned from a book.

But on the other hand, I have no qualms about the work archeologists are doing especially in Egypt with excavating tombs and removing mummies.

I don't know why the two situations strike me differently.

Another thought is to ask if there was an easy way for that driver to avoid driving on a tomb? Or maybe the driver was under instructions, explicitly given or not, to do the job as fast as possible?

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passerby said:

Respecting the dead is as ancient as humanity, and indeed is a universal and timeless feature of all religions. As child I was always taught to walk around the graves, even unmarked ones (which you had to guess!) as a sign of respect. Now I'm not so observant of this in the same way, but try my best.
Just as a matter of interest I saw a documentary about a Muslim burial recently, where the mourners were responsible for in filling the grave after an internment. They all took it in turns to fill the grave as a final act for the deceased. The guy whose Grandmother was being buried said that only Muslims do this. I sort of took objection to that claim because after Catholic internments the mourners traditionally throw soil onto the coffin. Although we don't pick up a spade we do all share the filling in in a pared back but no less solemn and respectful way.

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Evangelicalhumanist said:

I'm neither Christian nor believer of any kind, but I live very close to a very large cemetary (Mount Pleasant Cemetary in Toronto). It is a very beautiful property and contains many, many varieties of trees making it one of the most important arbortums in North America -- and it is a very, very pleasant place to go for long walks.

I would never, ever consider stepping on the grave or headstone of anyone buried there. I'm not sure why, but I think it mostly out of respect for possible members of the deceased's family who may still be alive, and care about such things.

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