Landlords upset ...

McBell · May 9, 2021

... over judge ruling to temporarily reinstate eviction moratorium

A Centers for Disease, Control and Prevention ban protecting struggling tenants from being kicked out of their homes due to the pandemic is now being reinstated after it was originally struck down on Wednesday.

The federal judge making this decision is now considering an emergency request from the Biden Administration by May 16, which is causing a lot of questions to arise from landlords in the area.

“They just keep ripping the rug out from us,” Genesee Landlord Association President, Ed Constable.

Constable is also a landlord, who’s been experiencing problems like this one.

“I was paying the water and heat for this tenant for 10 months for free,” explained Constable.

And Constable says he’s not the only one having to make these sacrifices.

“We do have members still dealing with about 15% of their portfolio not paying rent, and a lot of these tenants owe them anywhere between $2,500 to $9,000 in back rent,” he said.

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Landlords upset over judge ruling to temporarily reinstate eviction moratorium

Kooky · May 9, 2021

My heart goes out to all the capitalist who are barred by law from making miserable people's lives even more miserable during a global pandemic.

Stevicus · May 9, 2021

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...moratorium-pandemic/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Trailblazer · May 9, 2021

Mestemia said:
“We do have members still dealing with about 15% of their portfolio not paying rent, and a lot of these tenants owe them anywhere between $2,500 to $9,000 in back rent,” he said.

One of my tenants owes me $14,632 in back rent. I have been assured by the county rental assistance program coordinator that there is a lot of money that has been allocated for rental assistance through several bills that were passed, so as soon as the money becomes available I should be able to get all the money owing, but it that does not turn out to be true I am going to sue this tenant's *** in court. I can sue him for all the money he owes me even if I cannot evict him and that will make the eviction process a lot easier later. He is banking on that I will not do that but that is because he does not know me very well. His free ride will eventually come to an end one way or another because I am done putting up with his crap.

We Never Know · May 9, 2021

Mestemia said:
... over judge ruling to temporarily reinstate eviction moratorium
A Centers for Disease, Control and Prevention ban protecting struggling tenants from being kicked out of their homes due to the pandemic is now being reinstated after it was originally struck down on Wednesday.

The federal judge making this decision is now considering an emergency request from the Biden Administration by May 16, which is causing a lot of questions to arise from landlords in the area.

“They just keep ripping the rug out from us,” Genesee Landlord Association President, Ed Constable.

Constable is also a landlord, who’s been experiencing problems like this one.

“I was paying the water and heat for this tenant for 10 months for free,” explained Constable.

And Constable says he’s not the only one having to make these sacrifices.

“We do have members still dealing with about 15% of their portfolio not paying rent, and a lot of these tenants owe them anywhere between $2,500 to $9,000 in back rent,” he said.

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Landlords upset over judge ruling to temporarily reinstate eviction moratorium

I think a % of the unemployment some people are drawing should go directly to the landlords.

Twilight Hue · May 9, 2021

Kooky said:
My heart goes out to all the capitalist who are barred by law from making miserable people's lives even more miserable during a global pandemic.

I don't see the left offering free housing to anybody or offering compensation for all the damage they caused businesses and jobs.

PureX · May 9, 2021

There is abuse from both quarters and there is need on both sides, too. We should have frozen non-essential commerce during the pandemic, but the greedsters that own and control everything just couldn't allow their money pump to be shut down. So now we have a big mess that will take years to sort out and will harm a lot of people; landlords and tenants, alike.

McBell · May 9, 2021

Trailblazer said:
One of my tenants owes me $14,632 in back rent. I have been assured by the county rental assistance program coordinator that there is a lot of money that has been allocated for rental assistance through several bills that were passed, so as soon as the money becomes available I should be able to get all the money owing, but it that does not turn out to be true I am going to sue this tenant's *** in court. I can sue him for all the money he owes me even if I cannot evict him and that will make the eviction process a lot easier later. he is banking on that I will not do that but that is because he does not know me very well. His free ride will eventually come to an end one way or another because I am done putting up with his crap.

And what of the, if any, damage done to the property?
Do these programs have funding for that as well or just for back rent owed?

McBell · May 9, 2021

Kooky said:
My heart goes out to all the capitalist who are barred by law from making miserable people's lives even more miserable during a global pandemic.

Ah, so the landlords are supposed to what, balls up and take it?
Lose their rental properties because they can not afford to pay their bills?

Seems to me you speak on a matter you know little to nothing about.

McBell · May 9, 2021

Stevicus said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...moratorium-pandemic/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

I am not paying $29 a month to read one article.

McBell · May 9, 2021

PureX said:
There is abuse from both quarters and there is need on both sides, too. We should have frozen non-essential commerce during the pandemic, but the greedsters that own and control everything just couldn't allow their money pump to be shut down. So now we have a big mess that will take years to sort out and will harm a lot of people; landlords and tenants, alike.

It is definitely a big mess.
And a big part of the reason, IMO, is because the ones declaring rent amnesty are not responsible/liable for the financial disaster it has caused.

I have lost count the number of people in my neck of the woods BRAGGING that they are bringing in more money a month now than they ever have in their life and since they do not have to pay rent.....

Do not get me wrong.
I also know quite a few who are paying their rent/mortgage because they fear being kicked out when all is said and done.
I also know some who are honestly struggling to pay rent.

And no, I do not even pretend to know the percentages of each group.

Evangelicalhumanist · May 9, 2021

Mestemia said:
Ah, so the landlords are supposed to what, balls up and take it?
Lose their rental properties because they can not afford to pay their bills?

Seems to me you speak on a matter you know little to nothing about.

Why not try offering up solutions?

Do you disagree that somebody who was forced out of work by closures not of their own making is likely also not making any money -- including rent money? Since they are renting, I'm sure don't expect them to be selling their house to raise money to pay the landlord.

By the same token, even I am not so stupid as to be unaware that landlords are also being hurt by lockdowns and illness -- of course they are.

So which ones do you suppose that society should just give up on -- let wander off and die?

I have little doubt, by the way, that those who can afford to own enough property to actually BE landlords would be the first to say it's the other guys with no big store of cash -- "let them go. I can find another tenant."

Funny to hear so many people talk about "we'll get through this together," when they generally mean absolutely nothing of the kind. This is one of those places where I would expect decent, civilized people to pull together, yet we constantly turn back into "every last man for himself!"

Evangelicalhumanist · May 9, 2021

Just think of the distopian movies we'll be able to make out of this reality, eh?

Kooky · May 9, 2021

Mestemia said:
Ah, so the landlords are supposed to what, balls up and take it?

We expect their tenants to do just that, don't we? That being unemployed, or poor, they have a moral and legal obligation to move onto the street.

Seems to me you speak on a matter you know little to nothing about.

I know enough about having to live without income.

McBell · May 9, 2021

Evangelicalhumanist said:
Why not try offering up solutions?

Good idea.
You start.

Evangelicalhumanist said:
Do you disagree that somebody who was forced out of work by closures not of their own making is likely also not making any money -- including rent money? Since they are renting, I'm sure don't expect them to be selling their house to raise money to pay the landlord.

By the same token, even I am not so stupid as to be unaware that landlords are also being hurt by lockdowns and illness -- of course they are.

So which ones do you suppose that society should just give up on -- let wander off and die?

Interesting.
Do YOU support the current system that has decided it is the landlords who are to "wander off and die"?
Why was it set up that way to begin with?
Lets screw over the landlords because there are far less landlords than there are renters....right?

NO, I am not a landlord.
So there goes that theory....

Evangelicalhumanist said:
I have little doubt, by the way, that those who can afford to own enough property to actually BE landlords would be the first to say it's the other guys with no big store of cash -- "let them go. I can find another tenant."

Or it might be they understand that an empty property is better than one obtaining wear and tear with no income at all...

One wonders where this "landlords have to be rich" attitude comes from...

Evangelicalhumanist said:
Funny to hear so many people talk about "we'll get through this together," when they generally mean absolutely nothing of the kind. This is one of those places where I would expect decent, civilized people to pull together, yet we constantly turn back into "every last man for himself!"

What is YOUR proposed solution?

Revoltingest · May 9, 2021

Twilight Hue said:
I don't see the left offering free housing to anybody or offering compensation for all the damage they caused businesses and jobs.

Government, both Dem & Pub, like create mandates for
which they get political credit, but someone else pays.
The anti-capitalists (as we see on RF) are chortling &
praising landlords' suffering....good ole stereotyping &
class hatred, eh. But their way would lead to ruin, since
no one would provide housing if they must operate at a
loss.
Where would renters live?
They don't think about that.

McBell · May 9, 2021

Revoltingest said:
Where would renters live?

Rent free on their landlords property.
At least so far....

Revoltingest · May 9, 2021

Mestemia said:
Rent free on their landlords property.
At least so far....

Yeah, I know landlords who are in deep doodoo.
Y'all will be glad to know that my portfolio is down to 2
residential units...one paying full rent, the other being
rehabbed (almost done). Storage tenants don't get to
legally stay without paying rent.

Evangelicalhumanist · May 9, 2021

Mestemia said:
Good idea.
You start.

Interesting.
Do YOU support the current system that has decided it is the landlords who are to "wander off and die"?
Why was it set up that way to begin with?
Lets screw over the landlords because there are far less landlords than there are renters....right?

NO, I am not a landlord.
So there goes that theory....

Or it might be they understand that an empty property is better than one obtaining wear and tear with no income at all...

One wonders where this "landlords have to be rich" attitude comes from...

What is YOUR proposed solution?

I'm a Canadian. Our governments are using our taxes (and yes, deficit spending) in support of both sides of the problem. And while I do not like deficit spending (I don't mind pay my fair share in taxes -- I'm a liberal), there are times when it is exactly the right thing to do. And this is one of them.

Trailblazer · May 9, 2021

Mestemia said:
And what of the, if any, damage done to the property?
Do these programs have funding for that as well or just for back rent owed?

No, there is no funding for that, but I am not worried that he will damage the property. On the other hand I have never really threatened him before so he could turn on me if I do.

However, his being behind on the rent has been going on for many years, long before the pandemic. He has been renting the house for eight years and he has almost always been behind on the rent, so the failure to pay is not related to the pandemic, although the pandemic could have made his financial situation worse.

Enough is enough. I cannot continue to allow this to go on, so if I don't get the rental assistance I will have to go to court and sue him. I have a feeling that just the threat of that will get his attention and he might find the money to pay me. I am not even asking for all the money at once, just his agreeing to pay me something in installments. Because of Covid, state law required me to offer him a chance to pay whatever he could on installments before I could sue him, but because he has refused to even do that, I now have a legitimate reason to sue him at any time.

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