SeekingAllTruth
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You deny a king wanted to kill Krishna? Do you deny that Herod wanted to kill Jesus too?
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Jesus and Krishna--Two Peas In A Pod
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Quote to me from Hindu scripture that a king wanted to kill Krishna. Quote the whole story. Or link it. Do the same for any of your claims about Krishna. If it's in their scripture, I'll pay attention. Shouldn't be that hard to find. Most of the major Hindu scriptures have been translated to English at some point and are usually on places like Internet Sacred Text Archive Home and other open source libraries (Project Gutenberg and so on).
SeekingAllTruth
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"Kamsa was born to King Ugrasena and Queen Padmavati. However, out of ambition and upon the advice of his personal confidantes, Banasura and Narakasura, Kamsa decided to overthrow his father and install himself as the King of Mathura. Therefore, upon the guidance of another advisor, Chanur, Kamsa decided to marry Asti and Prapti, the daughters of Jarasandha, King of Magadha.
After a heavenly voice prophesied that Devaki's eighth son will slay him, he imprisoned Devaki and her husband Vasudeva and killed all their children; however Just before the birth of the seventh child of Devaki and Vasudeva, Lord Vishnu ordered Goddess Mahamaya to transfer the womb of Devaki to that of Rohini, another wife of Vasudeva. Soon, Rohini gave birth to Devaki's seventh son, named Balarama. The eighth son, Krishna, an avatar of the god Vishnu, was transported to Gokul, where he was raised in the care of Nanda, the head of cowherds. Kamsa sent a host of demons to kill the child Krishna, all of whom Krishna killed. Finally, Krishna arrived in Mathura and slew his uncle Kamsa."
Okay...what does this have to do with Jesus and the massacre of the Innocents?
Matthew 2:16 - Wikipedia
The stories are barely alike, only containing general similarities (a prophecy, a child, a king in fear of overthrow). So what?
That's not what I am suggesting, but I understand what you feel about it. To me its nuanced, and there were some victories against politics and power.
SeekingAllTruth
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You conveniently left out this part:
Kamsa was the maternal uncle of Lord Krishna who swore to kill Lord Krishna because according to a prophecy, Lord Krishna would kill him otherwise.
Know The Whole Story of Kamsa Vadha By Lord Krishna - Youngisthan | DailyHunt
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SeekingAllTruth
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There were some good men in early Christianity. But from what I have read it was about trying to grow a religion that was still unknown. Christianity didn't take off big time until Constantine. Once in power, the Christian leaders' brutal quest to destroy all the competition is well known--the burning of the the library of Alexandria being but one example and the murders and executions another.
ROTFLMAO. Whatever you say.
What you included still has nothing to do with what is said about Jesus. Do you know anything about either one? It doesn't seem like it.
@SeekingAllTruth I hate to be another “bubble-burster”, but most of these are not true, my friend.
SeekingAllTruth
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Like I said, I hope those blinders are a good fit.ROTFLMAO. Whatever you say.
What you included still has nothing to do with what is said about Jesus. Do you know anything about either one? It doesn't seem like it.
What blinders?Like I said, I hope those blinders are a good fit.
SeekingAllTruth
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They're off four or five websites about Krishna. I've read it enough times to think there's something behind it.
SeekingAllTruth
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Since you know so much about me, apparently, tell me.
SeekingAllTruth
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Well, you love Jesus--tremendously so. I think you'd try to discredit anyone who said anything negative about him. Now you tell me, are there any details in the gospels that the writers might have lifted from earlier dying/rising gods?
SeekingAllTruth
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In your opinion, are there ANY similarities between Krishna and Jesus?
Ah yes, there is a lot in common.
They both seemed to be a fan of the ladies... oh, no. Jesus is largely believed to be unmarried, though there are a some that claim Mary Magdalene was his wife. Krishna had around 16,000. And then there were of course, the gopis...
They both spend childhood slaying demons and protecting their villages... oh, nope. That doesn't work either.
Hmmm... they fought the war to end an age... nope. Krishna's battle is done, Jesus's is supposedly to come. Though I see some similarity in which Jesus and Kalki are both said to return, at least.
I could be remembering wrong from my Sunday school classes, but I never recalled Jesus having quite the same smart alec ense of humor Krishna does either.
They both seemed to be a fan of the ladies... oh, no. Jesus is largely believed to be unmarried, though there are a some that claim Mary Magdalene was his wife. Krishna had around 16,000. And then there were of course, the gopis...
They both spend childhood slaying demons and protecting their villages... oh, nope. That doesn't work either.
Hmmm... they fought the war to end an age... nope. Krishna's battle is done, Jesus's is supposedly to come. Though I see some similarity in which Jesus and Kalki are both said to return, at least.
I could be remembering wrong from my Sunday school classes, but I never recalled Jesus having quite the same smart alec ense of humor Krishna does either.
So does Krishna have a human father and human mother?
Yes.
Nah. I've said more than enough nasty stuff about Him to be a frozen icicle in the Devil's mouth (Divine Comedy reference). I'm just interested in truth and logic here.
What is a "dying/rising god"? Define it.
In my opinion, there are certain similarities: both are worshipped in groups devoted to them and both are believed to be God incarnate, but past that, I think the similarities are kind of overblown.