Can a severely mentally deranged person reform in your opinion?

I'm finding some days I can act normal (healthy), but even then it's an act. It isn't genuine.

For those who think my spirituality of praying to entities other than Yahweh and Jesus is part of the problem, I'd love you to see how angry and psychotic I was back when I believed everyone whose names weren't written in the book of life were tossed into a lake of fire (like Scripture says), or practiced the extremely depressing spirituality of just praying to the Trinity.

Definitely the most helpful thing for my mental health, most Christians label as Idolatry or "Satanic" or witchcraft. And traditional Christianity of praying to just Jesus and the Father and following a Bible that divides people and stirs up judgemental , bitter, condemning people, only fills me with rage at God, so that is definitely not good for my mental health.

Being an atheist isn't good for me either, because I usually start drinking heavily when I become an atheist, as well as dishonest, without any real integrity when no one is watching.

But I don't think there is much hope for a severely mentally deranged person. And I can't blame any addictions. I was hospitalized for mental illness long before I ever started using an addictive chemical regularly.

I used to think a miracle was going to happen. I no longer believe that to be the case.

The problem is, I can't commit to something really , because the following day it's like Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, becoming a different person. I never know when that will happen.

Just take baby steps at eliminating vice from my life, I suppose.

But no, I'm not so sure a mentally deranged , warped person or sociopath is at fault for being that way, and neither am I convinced they can really get well.

Well, everybody must find their own way, depending on what they react to or desire most, so I don't know whether this will help you ...

.. but I found a certain, hard to describe "relief" in facing Hindu Goddess Kali. That doesn't mean I go around and eat people. But what she stands for has had a certain fascination for me. Many psychological issues are just buried anger issues underneath, so I found relief in looking at her. The point is not having yourself carried away by your emotion, but just "observe" your emotions and ultimately let them go. And drug abuse should be stopped immediately.

Many people have recovered or partially recovered from mental illness while some never do.

There is some hope of a natural recovery over time. And medication is advancing albeit too slowly.

And no mental illness is not the fault of the sufferer, more likely a genetically inherited disposition to one or more factors/experiences

Sirona said:

Well, everybody must find their own way, depending on what they react to or desire most, so I don't know whether this will help you ...

.. but I found a certain, hard to describe "relief" in facing Hindu Goddess Kali. That doesn't mean I go around and eat people. But what she stands for has had a certain fascination for me. Many psychological issues are just buried anger issues underneath, so I found relief in looking at her. The point is not having yourself carried away by your emotion, but just "observe" your emotions and ultimately let them go. And drug abuse should be stopped immediately.

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I love Kali and have dreams where I'm a baby in a crib and she is hovering over my bed.

They aren't nightmares either lol.

The idea she is a morbid, violent, yet tender mother who defends her own very much appeals to me.

Drugs i don't know of being black and white. Alcohol is a drug and some people have severe ADHD and are self medicating with stuff that is the same thing or often a close sister of what is at the pharmacy.

Many people drink responsibly, and I know at this forum we can't talk about illegal stuff, but I have been prescribed amphetamines that have been almost lifesavers.

But using alcohol or a substance for intoxication or euphoria is always bad yes.

Spiderman said:

But I don't think there is much hope for a severely mentally deranged person. And I can't blame any addictions. I was hospitalized for mental illness long before I ever started using an addictive chemical regularly.

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You might wish to consider having these types of discussions with those trained in how best to process them.

Jayhawker Soule said:

You might wish to consider having these types of discussions with those trained in how best to process them.

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I do but it is only helpful if it is a very rare therapist or Doctor. Even then, it only helps so much.

I have never seen a person who is severely mentally and emotionally Ill or disturbed find any signs of being cured.

I've seen alcoholics in AA get well , but many of them were not mentally ill before becoming alcoholic.

Also, most alcoholics who get sober for years still strike me as being mentally ill anyway.

I have known many mentally ill or deranged people. They can improve, but they don't become well.

I've never seen evidence of it.

Spiderman said:

I have known many mentally ill or deranged people. They can improve, but they don't become well.

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I think it's a myth that we all reach or are supposed to reach some magical stage of being happy consumers with a steady mood who "are well". Sometimes things are just bad.

And "being well" is a rather vague goal. You should rather pick specific goals, such as "I want a bicyle / pet / job / education".

You shouldn't go by negative examples. There is always someone who is worse off than you. When you are with such people, you should tell yourself that it is only a stopover, and that you will get out of it again to achieve your goals. To just sit down and say, "I have severe problems, no one can help me anyway, and neither can I help myself," is counterproductive.

Spiderman said:

I have known many mentally ill or deranged people. They can improve, but they don't become well.

I've never seen evidence of it.

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John Nash and Peter Green

Nash was a brilliant mathematician before schizophrenia took him. It took 20 years to recover to teach at Princeton and win a Nobel prize for economics.

Green was co founder of Fleetwood Mac. After having to quit the band he worked his way back to mental health.

Sure its rare but it can happen

ChristineM said:

John Nash and Peter Green

Nash was a brilliant mathematician before schizophrenia took him. It took 20 years to recover to teach at Princeton and win a Nobel prize for economics.

Green was co founder of Fleetwood Mac. After having to quit the band he worked his way back to mental health.

Sure its rare but it can happen

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Many people with schizophrenia are brilliant and creative people, I've noticed. I've known one like that, who was also highly intelligent. Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys and Phillip K. Dick were also schizophrenic and quite brilliant.

Saint Frankenstein said:

Many people with schizophrenia are brilliant and creative people, I've noticed. I've known one like that, who was also highly intelligent. Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys and Phillip K. Dick were also schizophrenic and quite brilliant.

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My brother in-law is schizophrenic, a truly brilliant and much sought after artist. He is unfortunately going through a bad time at the moment and has had to give up a lead artist position at a aaa games studio. It's not the first time but he always bounces back

ChristineM said:

John Nash and Peter Green

Nash was a brilliant mathematician before schizophrenia took him. It took 20 years to recover to teach at Princeton and win a Nobel prize for economics.

Green was co founder of Fleetwood Mac. After having to quit the band he worked his way back to mental health.

Sure its rare but it can happen

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Two excellent examples of people with mental illness, who led full and productive lives, and whose presence on earth helped make it a better place