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Unity with the life force (God/Allah)

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darkskies

Active Member
Unveiled Artist said:
What I wonder about is why don't people who don't believe in god (that's not their lens of explaining life and reality) don't look at the context in which some religions use the word?

Why be stuck on one version of god just because the word is used to describe different contexts of ones view and definition of reality?
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From what I've seen, they dismiss it as useless semantics to describe something that's describable in simpler terms.

Most mainstream religions don't use it in that sense, which makes it harder for them to keep switching meanings and asking everyone specifically.

Personally speaking I don't mind it. Now that I've seen so many beliefs here, it seems quite obvious instead of clumping people together.

But most people spend their time arguing the one way that they know. Not everyone actively seeks exposure to everything as long as it works on a majority.

Btw, thanks.
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Unveiled Artist said:
That's a tricky sentence, that last part. How does that statement make sense (can't think of a better tone) if you (meaning people in general) don't know what the giving (giving?) force actually is?

In my opinion, that's like saying that people argue their understanding of this mystery, not what this mystery actually is. That sounds pretty strange. I can't think of the right word.

Unless one knows what this life-force or god is, it would not make sense to make any claim about who knows or doesn't know what either way.

I like looking more into things, not challenging the validity of it.
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In my understanding a believer can only understand God from the levels of wisdom the believer holds at any given time. But knowing God as God truly are, that i dont think we can as humans
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Conscious thoughts said:
Humans never going to have the exact same belief, or exact same understanding within a religious setting. nor are we going to become united under one belief in one God.
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the same with the angelic

see Job..........and the angels gathered to present themselves

OBVIOUSLY.....to see who was gettng it right....and who wasn't


and with them came the devil
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Conscious thoughts said:
It start to dawn on me that even we are one big group of people who example call the belief, Islam, Christianity, Hindu, Baha`i, Atheism and so on we are on a single individual level united with Allah (God) life force.
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I would use different words but I see it as being all drops of water from the same Ocean.

Shakeel said:
The reason Baha'is are so disliked is that they distort all religions they claim to believe in. No religion is safe from their slander.
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My view is totally the opposite. I've never talked with or read anything by Baha's that is in any way slander. I wish I could say the same about Muslims (and Christians) who have too many ready to slander anyone who believes differently.
 
Brian2

Brian2

Veteran Member
Power Stone said:
Only thing I can think of that deserves the name God is infinity. It’s not a stone or a person or the sun etc.
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Infinity does lack a lot that a God should have however. It is not alive for example.
An infinity living being would surely be better.
 
Sirona

Sirona

Hindu Wannabe
Shakeel said:
The reason Baha'is are so disliked is that they distort all religions they claim to believe in. No religion is safe from their slander.
sun rise said:
My view is totally the opposite. I've never talked with or read anything by Baha's that is in any way slander. I wish I could say the same about Muslims (and Christians) who have too many ready to slander anyone who believes differently.

I concur with Shakeel. Baha'is tell you they like your religion because they're like car vendors who want you to buy their "car". Honest adversity is probably easier to figure out or to handle than dishonest compliments are.
 
Sirona

Sirona

Hindu Wannabe
Conscious thoughts said:
In the discussion I started to think about unity between humans and this Life form we call Allah or God, depending on what religion you follow :)
Unity with God is not an unfamiliar term espesially within Baha`i faith, a faith i personally see a lot of good in so it is surprising how often they are attacked for their belief (not a part of this OP)
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It may be interesting to you that I once asked a Baha'i on this forum whether we would "merge with God" after death. They said that after death, people would remain servants of God.
 
Brian2

Brian2

Veteran Member
SalixIncendium said:
Wouldn't making at statement that no human beings know the truth be your truth?

I find it presumptuous, arrogant, and even a bit ironic to make a blanket statement of truth on what all human beings know or understand (or not) about truth.
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I know the truth because Jesus is the truth. But I don't know Him fully.
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
sun rise said:
I would use different words but I see it as being all drops of water from the same Ocean.



My view is totally the opposite. I've never talked with or read anything by Baha's that is in any way slander. I wish I could say the same about Muslims (and Christians) who have too many ready to slander anyone who believes differently.
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I have not seen baha'i slander others either but they get it often toward them self
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Sirona said:
It may be interesting to you that I once asked a Baha'i on this forum whether we would "merge with God" after death. They said that after death, people would remain servants of God.
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I can not speak for baha'i but personally i find their religious belief interesting, not saying i will become one, but i respect their belief
 
Sirona

Sirona

Hindu Wannabe
I also respect the Jehovah's Witnesses' religion, still I wouldn't want them to proselytize to me by possibly using manipulative techniques.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Sirona said:
In connection to what? Jehovah's Witnesses? There's quite a big conference building including several "kingdom halls", a stonethrow away from where I live.
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I have a thread up and running about ....
proselytizing vs quote
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Conscious thoughts said:
In my understanding a believer can only understand God from the levels of wisdom the believer holds at any given time. But knowing God as God truly are, that i dont think we can as humans
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1. Do you believe god can be anything even though we have different understandings or does our different understandings does not all the time align with what god actually is?

2. For example, do people touch many parts of one elephant (interpretations of one truth) or does each person have their own animal or thing whether it be an tiger or a building (many truths with their own individual interpretations)?

Mainly:

In other words, do you believe there are different interpretations of one god/LF?
or
Each person has their individual truths (not LF) despite their use of the label god?
 
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