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I wish I was developmentally disabled

Spiderman

Veteran Member
  1. Your ARE mentally challenged. Seriously. Just not in the way you're thinking.
I'm not trying to be insulting. But you are an addict (as you have revealed on here in the past) and one thing that is true about addiction: is that our emotional development stops at the point in life where the addiction takes control of us. Because addictions are all about AVOIDING the very pain and difficulties in life that would otherwise teach us how to grow up, and mature, and become positive functioning adults.

I have spent many hours associating with addicts of all sorts, both active, and sober, and I can tell you without any doubt in my mind that this is overwhelmingly the case. And it was true for myself, as well. My drinking finally took over my life by my late teens/early 20s, and by the time I finally quit drinking at 35 years old, I had not advanced in terms of emotional maturity at all since the drinking took control of me. I had never learned to date, properly, or to function socially at adult gatherings, or how to function as an adult in a work environment. I felt, thought, and acted in nearly every way like a teenager. Because in all those years of drinking I had ignored and avoided all the unpleasant experiences in life that would have taught me how to become a functional adult.

I mean no offense to you, but take a good look at yourself, and at your behavior, and how and where you live, and compare it to the other adults in the world that are your age. See how they have long since put away all those childish things and ideas that you are still "playing with". See how they have learned to become an integral part of lots of different social systems: marriages, families, careers, communities, and so on.

I'm just saying ... retardation applies to a lot more than just one's I.Q.
not totally correct though.

I'm basically sober most of the time now. And I have actually grown a lot in some ways like self-control and not wanting to avoid pain and suffering.

I have grown more prudent in my dealings with people and social interaction.

I have grown more humble, I don't look at porn, I don't lust like I used to, I don't fornicate, I don't harrass people, I try to keep a pure heart, I try to avoid anger, I don't really covet anything but spiritual graces, I'm not jealous except for jealous of God and the Saints, I'm less lazy and work odd jobs, I'm more charitable.

So I have grown despite being an addict. So some of your statement is false. But in that context, I'm retarded, and I think everyone agrees with you.
 
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JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Fine!

In that context I'm a retard. I don't have to be politically about it. I'm referring to myself. And some of my behaviors are very unintelligent.

Some of mine are, too. You know how many times I've locked my keys for the kitchen in the kitchen this week? You'd think I'd learn...
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I had a midget almost kick my *** once for calling him a midget.

What's a better term for midget? Dwarf sounds bad too.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Some of mine are, too. You know how many times I've locked my keys for the kitchen in the kitchen this week? You'd think I'd learn...
I lose my keys all the time and get locked out of the security door, and come to think of it. I left my bike locked somewhere because I had to carry a bag of stuff home. Thanks for reminding me lol
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
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Mentally challenged people don't strike me as being gangsters, mass murderers, or having all the worries and hate as intelligent people.

That's what I'm getting at folks
Title reminds me of that old rhyme:

See the happy moron.
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God, perhaps I am!

:D
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
I lose my keys all the time and get locked out of the security door, and come to think of it. I left my bike locked somewhere because I had to carry a bag of stuff home. Thanks for reminding me lol

I lose so many keys... and shoes. I hate shoes, and sometimes I forget to wear them places when its warm. And padlocks... (we have certain areas/containers we have to padlock so my autistic son can't access them, for safety reasons). I always have to buy new ones because I lose them all. And my phone. I almost never know where I leave that(I have no clue where it is now)... I haven't seen my ID in months, and I lose my insurance card every time I have to see a doctor(and of course, all the kids' insurance cards).

Good luck with your bike!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Title reminds me of that old rhyme:

See the happy moron.
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God, perhaps I am!

:D
I confess, many of my decisions have been those a moron would make and I would qualify as having very poor judgment and stupid behavior.

However, ironically , I scored higher than average in every subject on GED, and was the fastest typer in department of corrections, and score higher than average on IQ test, which means I'm probably not suffering from mental retardation, according to how that term is typically used.

I don't get the whole "Mentally challenged thing". I want to know , What is the correct term for "mental retardation"? Handicapped isn't the right term or accurate because technically I am mentally handicapped but don't have mental retardation. I don't see what is wrong with me using the R word.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
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Mentally challenged people don't strike me as being gangsters, mass murderers, or having all the worries and hate as intelligent people.

That's what I'm getting at folks
You know you should forgive yourself. Forgiving others and yourself sometimes requires forgetting the wrong that has been done. Not constantly bringing it up to yourself. Because if it's like a wound then if it's constantly reopened a wound is not going to heal. And even God forgets when he forgives as in Jeremiah 31:34. "for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I've heard "little people" is a politically correct term.
It's weird. Some actually like the term midget and dwarf. Just like a number gay and lesbians like to be referred to as queer.

I think being called a dwarf is the most complementary. It brings about those images of horned helmets, shields and axes with attitude made famous by dragons and fantasy rpgs and tabletop games as a proud fierce race of people, but I suppose you would have to be a nerd to love and appreciate it.
 

Viker

Häxan
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Mentally challenged people don't strike me as being gangsters, mass murderers, or having all the worries and hate as intelligent people.

That's what I'm getting at folks
I've encountered many alleged "intelligent people" who were stupid as heck.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I just need to apologize to everyone who has a friend or family member with disabilities, who was offended by my use of the R word earlier.

I know what it's like to hurt so shouldn't choose words which cause people to hurt.

God bless!
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
It's just a word. It used to be a legitimate wildly accepted medical term.

People get all wrapped up over the dumbest things. (Not you, just saying in general) Just because someone dosent like it doesent mean it's now taboo.
Where I live the word 'dumb' used to mean 'cannot talk' and deaf folks often got tagged with 'dumb' as well. It wasn't long before people started to use the word 'dumb' for low-intelligence as well. So if a person could not speak they were of low intelligence.

So there is yet another word which might show the speaker to be short on socially acceptable communications today.

It's a good subject for a thread, actually.......... :)
 

Gargovic Malkav

Well-Known Member
It's weird. Some actually like the term midget and dwarf. Just like a number gay and lesbians like to be referred to as queer.

I think being called a dwarf is the most complementary. It brings about those images of horned helmets, shields and axes with attitude made famous by dragons and fantasy rpgs and tabletop games as a proud fierce race of people, but I suppose you would have to be a nerd to love and appreciate it.

I try to judge the situation based on individual cases. People aren't all the same so they may have different preferences, and it can also make a great difference depending on whom is using these words.

I used to be called a zombie or a dead guy sometimes because I am often awfully quiet and still when around other people.
When some random kid in school called me that I felt threatened and bad about myself.
But one of my friends used to call me that as well sometimes, but I didn't mind when he did it.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
not totally correct though.

I'm basically sober most of the time now. And I have actually grown a lot in some ways like self-control and not wanting to avoid pain and suffering.

I have grown more prudent in my dealings with people and social interaction.

I have grown more humble, I don't look at porn, I don't lust like I used to, I don't fornicate, I don't harrass people, I try to keep a pure heart, I try to avoid anger, I don't really covet anything but spiritual graces, I'm not jealous except for jealous of God and the Saints, I'm less lazy and work odd jobs, I'm more charitable.

So I have grown despite being an addict. So some of your statement is false. But in that context, I'm retarded, and I think everyone agrees with you.
My sponsor in AA told me years ago that, "sobriety is just the ticket to the show; the show itself, is recovery". And what he meant by recovery is recovering the person I would have become had I not spent all those years in a self-destructive holding pattern caused by my addiction (alcoholism). That's what recovery programs are all about. And that's why they take time, and effort, and above all, persistent practice to achieve. I have no doubt that you are getting better. That you are changing and hopefully becoming the man you would have become without all those lost years in addiction. But it will take time, and it will take continued persistent effort and awareness on your part to fully recover. ... To counteract that "retardation" that happens when people become addicted to drugs, alcohol, and other escapist, self-deluding behaviors. The longer we stay at it, the easier it becomes, until it has finally become who we are, now. That's when we have been 'recovered'.

If I spoke harshly, I'm sorry. But claiming that you wish you were retarded is part of that escapist, addictive thinking. Something you need to learn to catch yourself doing, and stop. Because it's the same as saying you wish you could be an active addict, again. Which I am sure the addict in you still thinks and feels. That part of you needs to be exposed, and rejected, over and over and over until it loses it's habitual hold on your thinking, and is replaced by a more positive, grateful, and self-supporting thought pattern.
 
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