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Why I CANNOT Believe in The Resurrection

Colt

Well-Known Member
The gospel of christ comes after the cross.
The Gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven was taught 3+ years prior to his arrest for teaching it. The speculation and conjecture that we were actually supposed to sacrifice the Son to the Father came latter.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Do you think all this stuff is influencing your judgement. It certainly would to me if I was reading the bible with the ' glasses ' your wearing.
When you encountered Christianity it was a ready-made religion that told you how to think even though its nonsensical.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
If a person rejects the biblical worldview he will arrive at different conclusions. Just like the scientists who do believe in a worldwide flood do .
I think what you really mean to say is that if a person rejects your notions of what scripture teaches, they will arrive at different conclusions. That is very true, and why I don't find your ideas very helpful spiritually speaking. You seem far more concerned with defending your poor interpretations of scripture, than in pursuing knowledge and truth. Someone can believe in God fully, and also fully accept science for what it is and what it shows us, without becoming an atheist.

Perhaps, that is what you fear the most. That you will lose your faith if you entertain the idea that how you've been thinking about these matters, is not the only way to understand them? I tend to suspect that is true. Why else should you kick so hard against the pricks, Saul? ;)
 

John1.12

Free gift
If the Bible was true it would not have endless errors in it. I do not make assumptions either way at the start. It is when one makes the error that something is true without evidence that they believe such books.

You do not even seem to know how to test your beliefs properly. Here is a challenge, can you think of a proper challenge for your beliefs?
I don't see any errors. This is the claim that fell apart for me once I read for myself without all this nonsense said about errors and so called contradictions. . I ve heard them all pretty much . There is plenty of radical skeptic websites that list supposed contradictions only to find they have no clue with what they are saying about the verses .
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I don't see any errors. This is the claim that fell apart for me once I read for myself without all this nonsense said about errors and so called contradictions. . I ve heard them all pretty much . There is plenty of radical skeptic websites that list supposed contradictions only to find they have no clue with what they are saying about the verses .
That is only because you are using the Ostrich Defense. Hiding one's head in the sand does not work in real life. And now it looks like you are admitting to either dishonesty or an inability to understand. You cannot refute the problems in the Bible, all you can do is to pretend that they do not exist.

Why are you dodging a reasonable question? How would you properly test your beliefs?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Jesus is a Son of God, a divine being incarnate as a human. Laid down his life and took it up again of his own volition. He returned from the death of his temporary mortal flesh as he said he would which proved once and for all his divinity.
True, I find because pre-human heavenly Jesus was sent by his God from heaven to earth for us that he is divine.
I find No Scriptural teaching that dead Jesus ( Acts 2:27) took up 'it' (his life) up again of his own volition.
This is what I find: At Acts of the Apostles 2:24,32; Acts of the Apostles 3:15; Acts of the Apostles 5:30; Acts of The Apostles 10:40; Acts of the Apostles 13:30,37; Romans 4:24; Galatians 1:1; Colossians 2:12 B; 1 Thessalonians 1:10
that the God of Jesus resurrected Jesus , or that God raised up His Son. In other words, dead Jesus did Not resurrect himself.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The Gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven was taught 3+ years prior to his arrest for teaching it.,,,,,,,.
By saying the 'Gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven' sounds as if you are speaking about going to the Kingdom.
Jesus taught for God's kingdom to come ( thy kingdom come..... Luke 4:43 )
In other words, instead of praying to be 'taken up' to the kingdom, or 'taken away' to the kingdom Jesus instructed to pray for God's Kingdom to come, and God's Will be done right here on Earth as it is done in Heaven.
So, the Gospel or Good News of God's Kingdom is that God's Kingdom Government to come and govern over Earth.
This coming Kingdom would be coming after a long line of earthly political kingdoms or governments - Daniel 2:44.
In other words, 'the end game' is now at hand, and the time for Jesus to come (Rev. 22:20) is near at hand.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
When you experience God for yourself and are filled with the Holy Spirit that’s when you know.
How do you discern experiencing an actual God versus you imagining it? Provide the test in reality.

Some people never get there, die in their sins. I was fortunate, when I called to God He showed up.
Who told you to call to God in the first place, and why did you believe them? Did you ask for facts, or just accept what they told you?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
There is no “separation.” Salvation is realizing the oneness of creation and the oneness of creation and Creator.
Well that's a first. I've never heard anyone ever claim this is the proper interpretation.


God didn’t impregnate a woman to create a child to be sacrificed. God sacrificed Divinity to become human. Out of love — not out of some imagined “obligation” to do so.
None of this makes any sense. Certainly your God knew Jesus was going to be used as a sacrifice, yes? Or does your God not see the future and it is acting only on available information in the moment?

And if the God didn't know Jesus was going to be sacrificed why did God accept Jesus' death as a sacrifice at all? Just an opportunity? The whole Jesus myth is absurd, but your version takes it to a new level. None of your view is workable or consistent.


Yes we are. We’re simply living a nightmare and need to wake up.
Be an atheist, that's your wake up call.

That’s what the Greek term anastasis, translated as “resurrection” means: to get up, as in arising from sleep. We are inherently Divine, as is the whole created order. Everything is made out of the substance of God.
What is God made up of is it is substance?


No, it’s vitally relevant. Do you know how much suffering is involved in being crucified? Just undergoing the process is sacrifice enough, I think. Even if one doesn’t die.
Tens of thousands were crucified. Many were rescued. It was a brutal punishment by the Romans. It's not like Jesus suffered any worse than the other people.
 
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