Evolution is a fact?!

YoursTrue said:

What is interesting is, however, that you didn't see your creation, or any type of supposed evolution before you

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What is interesting is, however, that you didn't see your God's creation, or any type of supposed Creation before you. Neither did anyone. Yet, you believe.

There is evidence for evolution from multiple fields of science developed over the course of years by thousands of scientists. Millions of Christians believe this process and result.

There is evidence for Creation from one book written by people with little knowledge of science (they believed the kind of nearby wood caused spots and speckles on goats). You believe this.


Have you ever seen a continent move? Do you believe in plate techtonics?

ecco said:

What is interesting is, however, that you didn't see your God's creation, or any type of supposed Creation before you. Neither did anyone. Yet, you believe.

There is evidence for evolution from multiple fields of science developed over the course of years by thousands of scientists. Millions of Christians believe this process and result.

There is evidence for Creation from one book written by people with little knowledge of science (they believed the kind of nearby wood caused spots and speckles on goats). You believe this.


Have you ever seen a continent move? Do you believe in plate techtonics?

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I believe there are earth shiftings insofar as plate techtonic and landslides and eruptions, among other things. Tsunamis, floods. I also believe God has power over these things as He desires.

ecco said:

What is interesting is, however, that you didn't see your God's creation, or any type of supposed Creation before you. Neither did anyone. Yet, you believe.

There is evidence for evolution from multiple fields of science developed over the course of years by thousands of scientists. Millions of Christians believe this process and result.

There is evidence for Creation from one book written by people with little knowledge of science (they believed the kind of nearby wood caused spots and speckles on goats). You believe this.

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It's an interesting account and apparently based on the law of genetics. Genes in the unfolding of appearance as researched and followed, do not have to be apparent in appearance in the beginning. You probably know this. It was demonstrated as Mendel's Law if I recall.

YoursTrue said:

Today we have recording devices. I am guaranteeing you that IF I saw recordings of cells moving from one form to create another and eventually go, let's say, from fish to tetrapod, I'd have little reason not to believe it.

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Interesting.
Please be so kind as to present the recordings of god doing it.

As a human living with humans first I question why are you so intent on proving a Status evolution. When you are comparing any deceased body and living body yourselves?

Just humans telling stories by belief agreement. A group.

Then you realise because science expressed conditions as a thinker not about life on earth. In thinking theories also.

So a human claiming I will prove to you that life in its similarities of shared communal cell conditions only exists on earth. The reason to argue is established.

As other scientists said it didn't.

Earth was said O one body. A planet owning it's heavens.

The other human theists talked about life on earth as if it never existed. Whilst studies of conditions of life says it belonged living on earth. When it did and does.

Yet not one human thinking is creating any presence being or placed existence in reality.

Why arguing is factually moot. As a human thinking did not create me.

YoursTrue said:

I believe there are earth shiftings insofar as plate techtonic and landslides and eruptions, among other things.

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So, you kinda believe some science but not all science. You believe the science that you can explain with your god but you disregard the science that you cannot explain with your god.

That's a very biased way to look at anything.

YoursTrue said:

I believe there are earth shiftings insofar as plate techtonic and landslides and eruptions, among other things. Tsunamis, floods. I also believe God has power over these things as He desires.

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I guess he desired to kill 230,000 in the 2004 Indonesian tsunami.
I guess he desired to kill 20,000 in the Japanese tsunami.
I guess he allowed the Covid virus to kill 560,000 Americans.

YoursTrue said:

It's an interesting account and apparently based on the law of genetics. Genes in the unfolding of appearance as researched and followed, do not have to be apparent in appearance in the beginning. You probably know this. It was demonstrated as Mendel's Law if I recall.

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Seriously?!? You are going to compare the spotted goats' story with genetics? It's really amazing how much twisting and turning some people must do to try to validate their beliefs.

YoursTrue said:

IF I did not believe that God is the starter of life, that He created living matter, I might go along with evolution sans a creator. However, and it's a big however, there are those scientists who doubt the theory of evolution yet do not believe in a creator.

It is simply impossible for me to believe that fish became humans. Again, skulls and bones do not depict evolution. They may depict that some dna is similar but I believe there's more to it.

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Nice way to say "I pretended to understand science- you have presented material that is WAYYYYY over my head, but my programming demands that I reject evolution at all costs.."

Now run along and start 2 more threads using more dubious nonsense, all while pretending to understand it.

YoursTrue said:

It's an interesting account and apparently based on the law of genetics. Genes in the unfolding of appearance as researched and followed, do not have to be apparent in appearance in the beginning. You probably know this. It was demonstrated as Mendel's Law if I recall.

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Why do dare mention genetics when it is painfully clear that you do not understand even the basics sufficiently to provide a meaningful response to something that you had once actually asked for?
Do you think your antics please Jesus or something?

Evolution is a fact?!

ecco said:

So, you kinda believe some science but not all science. You believe the science that you can explain with your god but you disregard the science that you cannot explain with your god.

That's a very biased way to look at anything.

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The Bible says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." I believe that. I have no reason not to believe it. Furthermore, while I believe that things can be examined by anallyzing DNA, I have no reason to believe that humans came about as a result of evolving from some, as of yet, Unknown Common Ancestor. Before I believed in God and the Bible, I believed as you do. The Bible didn't make sense to me in the past. I can't say I understand everything in the Bible. But I sure know more now than I did before I studied the Bible and the history.

tas8831 said:

Why do dare mention genetics when it is painfully clear that you do not understand even the basics sufficiently to provide a meaningful response to something that you had once actually asked for?
Do you think your antics please Jesus or something?

Evolution is a fact?!

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It's simply not proven. So, because we have different ideas or definitions of what evolution is, and because I believe that scientists have discovered many useful things, such as vaccines, I do not believe that scientists have proven evolution of the classic kind. Humans have been around for -- ?? -- many years. Yet, as I see history, only a few centuries ago men were without harnessing electricity. It happened rather quickly.

tas8831 said:

Nice way to say "I pretended to understand science- you have presented material that is WAYYYYY over my head, but my programming demands that I reject evolution at all costs.."

Now run along and start 2 more threads using more dubious nonsense, all while pretending to understand it.

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I know that things can be seen under a microscopic lens that were not apparent decades ago. I don't have to be an educated scientist to know that. Just as I don't understand everything about God and the Bible, yet enjoy very much learning, I can't say anyone understands everything about science, can you? Yet scientists can enjoy and continue learning and examining.

tas8831 said:

Why do dare mention genetics when it is painfully clear that you do not understand even the basics sufficiently to provide a meaningful response to something that you had once actually asked for?
Do you think your antics please Jesus or something?

Evolution is a fact?!

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So you get upset that I do not think that evolution means that some persons produce offspring with light hair? Or longer limbs than other families (of humans)? Or that I dare say it?

ecco said:

So, you kinda believe some science but not all science. You believe the science that you can explain with your god but you disregard the science that you cannot explain with your god.

That's a very biased way to look at anything.




I guess he desired to kill 230,000 in the 2004 Indonesian tsunami.
I guess he desired to kill 20,000 in the Japanese tsunami.
I guess he allowed the Covid virus to kill 560,000 Americans.

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What does the foregoing have to do with disbelief in evolution of the Darwinian kind?

Science. Time by a count to infer factors and numbers O circle and cycles.

O earth a round planet

Science said entity O is a God. O planets. God's plan O.

O mass held by space pressure a God exploding consuming evolving forming. In a O held science God evolution theme.

God statement in old science status O planet history. Planets. The plan of God plan set. Planets.

Mass held as science. O.

God status.

God by erection. A mountain. Ejection by mountain. God's law had immaculate sex with space womb.

Mother of God. How immaculate heaven spirit existed

Owned by planet God. Owned heavens by planet and space womb.

Mother of God.

Human theist. Why the heavens got sacrificed as a D day a half body. The sun once big bang blasted.

Human conscious identified.

Space womb now held immaculate spirit born in a sacrifice as it's holy mother day owner.

A thesis.

Not human in any teaching.

Human living. Self owned. First status. Spiritual. Healthy and can think.

Thought about the want to invent science after thinking about natural.

Natural reactive history a one of body self evolution status to be present as a planet. To own it's heavens. For heavens to own natural light itself.

No sun involved.

Planet advice sitting in space a science O God thesis.

Science human status. A human lives after a body inferred status and ape lived.

A fully alive living ape is pre living closest genetics by a human study of two bodies.

An ape body living as an ape.
A human body living as a human.

Consciousness human.

A human says to a scientist correctly I am not an ape.

Conscious aware totally informed without science. By observation.

Science human defined its owned purpose to teach the closest living life form an ape. Also correct.

Not correct by researched dead bones.

We don't exist in a dead bones evolution theory.

Reason for human survival is to be a living human aware of living truth.

tas8831 said:

Nice way to say "I pretended to understand science- you have presented material that is WAYYYYY over my head, but my programming demands that I reject evolution at all costs.."

Now run along and start 2 more threads using more dubious nonsense, all while pretending to understand it.

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Dubious nonsense like claiming chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, are forms of evolution closely related to humans because -- their genes are similar in many respects and because they kind of look alike? Like chimpanzees with less hair on their faces? Yes?

YoursTrue said:

Dubious nonsense like claiming chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, are forms of evolution closely related to humans because -- their genes are similar in many respects and because they kind of look alike? Like chimpanzees with less hair on their faces? Yes?

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So paternity tests are dubious tests?

YoursTrue said:

The Bible says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." I believe that. I have no reason not to believe it.

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How about no actual evidence?
By this reasoning, Egyptians had no reason not to believe in Isis, Greeks no reason not to believe in Apollo; Norsemen in Thor, or the Diné in Spider-Woman. Are they all true? Do you believe in all of them?
The Bible says one thing. The Vedas, another, the Popol Vuh another. How are we to determine which is true, if not by objective evidence?

Furthermore, while I believe that things can be examined by anallyzing DNA, I have no reason to believe that humans came about as a result of evolving from some, as of yet, Unknown Common Ancestor.

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Yes, you do. You're just either in denial, or ignorant of it. Have you never had a biology course?

Before I believed in God and the Bible, I believed as you do. The Bible didn't make sense to me in the past. I can't say I understand everything in the Bible. But I sure know more now than I did before I studied the Bible and the history.

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But the Bible is folklore, isn't it? compiled by a religious sect, with an agenda. It's edited, contradictory, and much of it demonstrably false. Much of it is simply hearsay.

The ToE "makes sense -- and it's evidenced. Maybe you should look into it before you dismiss it as unevidenced.

YoursTrue said:

It's simply not proven. So, because we have different ideas or definitions of what evolution is, and because I believe that scientists have discovered many useful things, such as vaccines, I do not believe that scientists have proven evolution of the classic kind. Humans have been around for -- ?? -- many years. Yet, as I see history, only a few centuries ago men were without harnessing electricity. It happened rather quickly.

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Yes, as soon as men rejected religion and folklore for the scientific method, technology took off. The religion and folklore were useless fantasy.

Nothing, outside of mathematics, is 'proven' -- not the round-Earth theory, the germ theory, or the magic poofing "theory," but some are better evidenced than others.
The ToE is better evidenced and more consilient than heliocentrism or the germ theory. You evidently neither understand it nor are aware of the evidence supporting it -- yet you hold a strong opinion about it.
Why?

YoursTrue said:

Dubious nonsense like claiming chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, are forms of evolution closely related to humans because -- their genes are similar in many respects and because they kind of look alike? Like chimpanzees with less hair on their faces? Yes?

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How do you explain it?