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Spiderman said:

I have seen plenty regimes in my lifetime that will crucify people, stone people, stone adulterers, and sanction taking women as sex slaves based on them being heretics and Idolators, and sexually assaulting unveiled women with the regime being okay with it as well as forbidding women to drive and walk outside alone.

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We are talking about migrants in Europe, remember? There are no adulterers being stoned by howling mobs in Sweden, nor are unveiled women harassed or raped on the streets, and Swedish women of any background are free to drive wherever they damn please, as long as they have a valid driver's license.

Kooky said:

We are talking about migrants in Europe, remember? There are no adulterers being stoned by howling mobs in Sweden, nor are unveiled women harassed or raped on the streets, and Swedish women of any background are free to drive wherever they damn please, as long as they have a valid driver's license.

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We are talking about migrants who come from a culture and adhere to an ideology responsible for the most extreme misogyny earth has ever known with regimes that currently rob hundreds of millions of people of basic rights.

People raised in that culture who adhere to it have indeed brought it to Europe , and women have been sexually assaulted and murdered in the name of Sharia law throughout the world, including Europe.

Europeans have been terrorized , sometimes over a hundred killed in a single place in public in the name of the Abrahamic God in the 21st century (France for example).

How often in the 21st century does someone in the name of a Goddess go on a rampage shooting innocent people, suicide bombers, fly planes into buildings, cut off hands, crucify people, use girls as young as 8 years old as sex slaves because of heresy (and call it sacred), and start regimes that rob hundreds of millions of people of basic human rights?

It's all in the name of the Abrahamic God, and many of those migrants are indeed coming from countries that spent centuries trying to conquer Europe.

Muhammad was a terrorist and not just a terrorist but the epitome of it, which isn't even up for debate.

The graphic hatred and torture in the Koran is worse than anything from Charles Manson or any cult leader I've ever heard of.

And regimes in the 21st century hack off hands and feet and crucify and burn people alive because the Koran encourages it.

There are verses of love, but rat poison is mostly good food too. The small percent that is poison kills.

Bringing cultures into your country that adhere to a gruesome text founded by an undeniable bigot, child rapist, polygamist, terrorist, and Ultra-totalitarian Dictator, that they believe to be the most praiseworthy of all men, is a major problem and isn't good for society.

I love my Muslim neighbor , but if they can't renounce a text that says "Slay the Idolator wherever you see him" and "the enemies of Muhammed are to have their limbs amputated, they are to be crucified, boiling water is to be poured upon their face, their torment shall be great in this life and so shall it be in the next" etc. they can't be trusted.

I mean seriously, you can't see the problem with a Religion based off a text that is easily arguably more psychopathic than the writings of Adolf Hitler or Charles Manson?

Do you really think your defending this ideology of bigotry, misogyny, antisemitism, and hatred is respectful to the victims and the hundreds of millions still oppressed? (or those rotting in a jail currently for the next ten years or executed for starting a blog that says the government is too harsh?

This ideology spread violently repeatedly attacking Europe and having to be repulsed. Spain fought a war on Spanish soil with North African Muslim invaders that lasted almost 700 years.

Muslims were conquering France until the battle of Tours.

Muslims were going to conquer Italy until their fleet was sunk at Lepanto. Turkey, Israel, Egypt, Morroco, Libya, and countless nations Muslims conquered with the sword and had barbaric slavery and children forced to marry their rapist.

Saudi Arabia didn't even let women drive until the 21st century and before America entered Afghanistan, women would be killed for even showing their face.

Muslims have killed children in the streets in the 21st century for watching soccer.

So now Europe should welcome people from countries and cultures that have been bent on global conquest, (especially Europe) through bloodshed and oppression, since the Religion began??

I find your approach here to be very disrespectful to the hundreds of millions of agonizing lives damaged and ruined by this movement , system of Religion, and Extremist Abrahamic government that is illegally invading Europe.

Not to mention, there are still Muslim countries that are stoning women to death, mutilating female genitalia and calling it sacred, and in many Muslim majority countries , a woman will get arrested and be at high risk of sexual assault or possibly death for being unveiled in public.

And countless non Muslims are persecuted currently. This behavior and ideology cannot be made light of or treated with political correctness.

It's highly a disservice to those victimized by these errors to not speak up. These errors are found in possibly the most toxic piece of literature to cause more heartache and war than any other, the Qur'an and the Old Testament.

They are poisoning earth and it's obvious. It is becoming increasingly difficult to speak the truth about Muhammad and Islam and you know it.

Spiderman said:

We are talking about migrants who come from a culture and adhere to an ideology responsible for the most extreme misogyny earth has ever known with regimes that currently rob hundreds of millions of people of basic rights.

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You've got to be more specific than that, because that applies to almost everyone, including Americans.

Kooky said:

You've got to be more specific than that, because that applies to almost everyone, including Americans.

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Okay

On a strange bizzare note. I'm at a native American "Mother Earth" gathering at Capitol Hill , and near Women's suffrage garden is:


It's dated 1999 and Pamela Pietro was born 1999. There was a penny on my desk dated 1999 I was noticing about an hour prior to this.

I said her banner is a flag with a five pointed star fish, because if you dismember a star fish, it can grow into five new entities with five new bodies. So, her movement shall thus grow with resistance.

Well, if I recall correctly, sponges also can grow into new sponges when cut into multiple pieces, and one of the main characters in sponge Bob is a five pointed star fish.

I know it's ridiculous and I feel kinda weird if I take this shirt and bra home, but it kinda seems like it's a sign and a relic of some sort.

The starfish doesn't die, she multiplies!

Spiderman said:

So what kind of scientific findings do you want. Do you want a list of women with semen found inside them that had the DNA of a migrant?

The OP was more to point out some coincidences linked to some victims of rape , torture , and murder I feel are communicating with me.

Would you like me to show you where the Koran justifies cutting off hands and feet, crucifixions, pouring boiling water on faces, burning people , and psychopathic tortures?

Would you like me to prove to you that Muhammad and some of the Bible prophets were terrorists, misogynists, and how badly women are treated in some of those countries dominated by their policies and writings?

Would you like me to prove that some of those migrants are married to prepubescent girls, and governments that accommodate them are having to sanction pedophilia?

Those were more points similar to what I was trying to convey in the OP. Scientific data involving DNA proving women got raped by migrants I'm not sure where to look.

Bottom line, there is a lot of reports of a "rape epidemic" that can't be dismissed, and if you know a lot about Islam, it's obvious why.

Unveiled women are likely to get raped in a lot of those countries, it's accepted. So what do you think some of them do when they get to a country of unveiled women?

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Some actual data by professionals related to this apparent epidemic that your OP cited would be helpful.
You are perpetuating a harmful stereotype. Do I think there are issues with Islam? Sure do. Every religion is worth criticising imo. Because that is how we grow as humans.
Do I think religious zealots are a danger? Potentially yes. There is a legitimate discussion to be had. But I just can’t find the reliable data relating to the issues you’re bringing up. Again only opinion pieces

Incidentally my own mother came from a village literally filled with Muslims. All that happened to her was she learnt how to cook a popular Muslim dessert

SomeRandom said:

Some actual data by professionals related to this apparent epidemic that your OP cited would be helpful.
You are perpetuating a harmful stereotype. Do I think there are issues with Islam? Sure do. Every religion is worth criticising imo. Because that is how we grow as humans.
Do I think religious zealots are a danger? Potentially yes. There is a legitimate discussion to be had. But I just can’t find the reliable data relating to the issues you’re bringing up. Again only opinion pieces

Incidentally my own mother came from a village literally filled with Muslims. All that happened to her was she learnt how to cook a popular Muslim dessert

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Here is the quote from the OP I believe you are referring to: "actually growing more common , turning Sweden into the nickname "Rape Capitol".

Yes, Sweden has that nickname. There are loads of websites that will state crime and rape has gone up since Sweden opened wide to immigration.

The problem is, there will always be sources that say the opposite of what another says so I don't know.

" actually growing more common" is a bit vague.

But crime is more common than it used to be, and in the 20th century , it's fairly obvious where the vast majority of religiously fueled violence is coming from.

So, forgive me for believing some of the accusations that Muslim immigration increases crime, when the most violent intolerant religion by far in my lifetime, has been Islam.

I mean by far. There is no comparison in the 21st century to Islam over who kills more people and opptresses more people than Islam.

So when reports of Muslim immigration causing crime increase arise, of course I'm going to believe at least some of it is true.

The Qur'an commands Muslims to kill infidels, and regimes that kill people for tiny offenses in the 21st century, all of them I can think of are Muslim.

Okay, I'm sorry. The OP may have been misleading and I'm not really able to know which sources are reliable.

I wasn't being racist in the OP however. I was pointing out the errors of Abrahamic Faiths.

There is huge difference between that and racism.

Spiderman said:

Here is the quote from the OP I believe you are referring to: "actually growing more common , turning Sweden into the nickname "Rape Capitol".

Yes, Sweden has that nickname. There are loads of websites that will state crime and rape has gone up since Sweden opened wide to immigration.

The problem is, there will always be sources that say the opposite of what another says so I don't know.

" actually growing more common" is a bit vague.

But crime is more common than it used to be, and in the 20th century , it's fairly obvious where the vast majority of religiously fueled violence is coming from.

So, forgive me for believing some of the accusations that Muslim immigration increases crime, when the most violent intolerant religion by far in my lifetime, has been Islam.

I mean by far. There is no comparison in the 21st century to Islam over who kills more people and opptresses more people than Islam.

So when reports of Muslim immigration causing crime increase arise, of course I'm going to believe at least some of it is true.

The Qur'an commands Muslims to kill infidels, and regimes that kill people for tiny offenses in the 21st century, all of them I can think of are Muslim.

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Like I said Sweden has a higher rate of rape stats simply because they have a very wide and broad definition of it under their laws. In fact they even broadened them in 2018 and guess what happened? More people got arrested as a result. So the way I see it, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for this supposed “Rape Capital” nickname and it doesn’t seem to have a lot to do with immigration. I mean it might overlap somewhat since immigrants might not be aware of what specifically constitutes sexual assault under the laws of their new home. Especially if the laws are broader than what they were used to.
So I do think there is cause for discussion and I do think we should be rational about this all.
I dunno, Spidey, this seems more correlation than causation to me

Spiderman said:

Okay, I'm sorry. The OP may have been misleading and I'm not really able to know which sources are reliable.

I wasn't being racist in the OP however. I was pointing out the errors of Abrahamic Faiths.

There is huge difference between that and racism.

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I share your concerns and would probably agree with your criticisms, for what it’s worth. I don’t think you are being racist by pointing out flaws of a religion. But blaming immigration specifically might get you accused of being racist. Not that I think it isn’t worth discussing potential issues with culture clashes

Spiderman said:

I know, but much of the Bible and especially the Qur'an (which was inspired by the Bible) has lead to the worst bigotry, sexism, terrorism, and regimes of the 21st century.

The Bible needs to be recognized as containing error and outdated.

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It’s a convenient place to put the blame. I think most smart people take them books with a grain of salt

Spiderman said:

Yes, Sweden has that nickname. There are loads of websites that will state crime and rape has gone up since Sweden opened wide to immigration.

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There are loads of websites proclaiming that there is a worldwide conspiracy of Jews bent on world domination. Do you believe those as well?

So, forgive me for believing some of the accusations that Muslim immigration increases crime, when the most violent intolerant religion by far in my lifetime, has been Islam.

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You are taking part in a political ideology that brutalizes and persecutes ethnic and religious minorities in Europe and North America and you don't even seem to acknowledge that these vulnerable people exist, let alone that their suffering is real, simply because they don't conform to the hateful stereotype you've latched onto. I am not forgiving you for that as long as you continue to regurgitate this nonsense without even making a token attempt to look at the other side of the issue, sorry not sorry.

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If you really want to educate yourself on this issue, here are a few articles that could serve as a primer for further reading:

Mainstreaming Hate: The Anti-Immigrant Movement in the U.S.

Anti-Immigrant Violence Rocks Germany Following Chemnitz Stabbing

Persecution of Muslims - Wikipedia

A summary of attacks on Muslims in Western countries

Here is a more comprehensive scholarly article on the subject of Islamophobia:
A Comparative Analysis of European Islamophobia: France, UK, Germany, Netherlands, and Sweden

@Kooky
I can prove Islam is intrinsically hateful to the point going to a gas chamber in Auschwitz is minor compared to what the Qur'an declares to be in store for those who resist Muhammad's tyranny and terrorism.

In the 21st century how many nonmuslim countries had governments sanction taking Muslims as sex slaves, crucifying them in public, cutting off their heads , and burning them in public in broad daylight.

Islam is intrinsically hateful which you my friend have lost any argument suggesting otherwise because cutting off the hands and feet of those who oppose Islam is in the Koran.

If that isn't hatred in it's most ugly psychopathic forms, I don't know what is.

I live in the largest concentration of Samoli Muslims in America and I haven't seen anything remotely close to an anti Islamic remark made to a single one of them.

American and European laws protect Muslims. In Muslim countries there are laws oppressing hundreds of millions of people.

Your apathy is a great disrespect to the hundreds of millions of victims of the tyranny I'm pointing out.

When Muslims are mistreated, I object. But the text they adhere to is inherently brutal and extremely hateful and sadistic beyond even what came from the Manson family.

Your criticism of my stance against pure bigotry and hate is interesting and disapointing for lack of a better word.

Europeans and Americans make me sick too.

The Bible makes me sick.

I believe in charity , humility, learning to grow in self control, learning to carry the cross (grow in tolerance to suffering), equal opportunities, purity of heart, following one's conscience, and incessant prayers to Kami (sentient beings).

I don't believe in Scripture or Dogma, especially if it's ancient. The only Religion that seems to completely be in line with that is Shinto.

Spiderman said:

When Muslims are mistreated, I object.

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Did you read any of the links I provided, then?

The last link I read.

It isn't a fraction of the laws and regimes the Koran creates.

But Muslims shouldn't be hated or "Allah Ukbar" outlawed

I forbid anyone hate Muslims based on anything I said. I insist everyone love Muslims who need our love.

I'm serious.

Sorry.