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I believe Judaism is absolute true

Starlight

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
I believe Judaism is absolute true. Why? Because Judaism is the first of the Abrahamic religion that believes in the one true God. I believe God wants us to love, serve and worship the one true God:

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One. And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. Deuteronomy 6 (In the old testament/jewish Tanakh)

Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:18 (In the old testament/Jewish Tanakh)

As you read above it was from the Tanakh/old testament Jesus got his teaching about you shalt love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. And the second is like unto it, you shalt love your neighbour as yourself (Matthew 22:36-40 in the New testament).

He got that teaching from the jewish Tanakh. Jesus was a jew.

I believe that because of judaism monotheism became more and more popular in this world, because of judaism the world got the ten commandments and I believe the ten commandmands is good ethical rules and commen sense. I believe that because of judaism this world became kinder to each other and had good ethical rules. And I believe because of judaism more people of this world understood that all humans is God's creation. And that all humans are equal.

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17)
1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.

What do you think about this? Any thoughts?
 
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ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
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And Zoroastrianism who worshipped their true god and believed to be the first monotheistic religion.

Judaism has at least 613 commandments
 
Samael_Khan

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
ChristineM said:
And Zoroastrianism who worshipped their true god and believed to be the first monotheistic religion.

Judaism has at least 613 commandments
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Weren't Zoroastrians Dualists? Believing in Ahura Mazda, the good god and Ahriman, the bad god?

I would also add that The Aten of Atenism was considered by Akhenaten to be the true god. And that was before Moses.
 
sayak83

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Meandflower said:
I believe Judaism is absolute true. Why? Because Judaism is the first of the Abrahamic religion that believes in the one true God. I believe God wants us to love, serve and worship the one true God:

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One. And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. Deuteronomy 6 (In the old testament/jewish Tanakh)

Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:18 (In the old testament/Jewish Tanakh)

As you read above it was from the Tanakh/old testament Jesus got his teaching about you shalt love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. And the second is like unto it, you shalt love your neighbour as yourself (Matthew 22:36-40 in the New testament).

He got that teaching from the jewish Tanakh. Jesus was a jew.

I believe that because of judaism monotheism became more and more popular in this world, because of judaism the world got the ten commandments and I believe the ten commandmands is good ethical rules and commen sense. I believe that because of judaism this world became kinder to each other and had good ethical rules. And I believe because of judaism more people of this world understood that all humans is God's creation. And that all humans are equal.

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17)
1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.

What do you think about this? Any thoughts?
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You are welcome to your beliefs.
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Israel Khan said:
Weren't Zoroastrians Dualists? Believing in Ahura Mazda, the good god and Ahriman, the bad god?

I would also add that The Aten of Atenism was considered by Akhenaten to be the true god. And that was before Moses.
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Ahura Mazda was worshipped as a god, Ahriman was an evil spirit

Its my belief that Atenism (and Zoroastrianism) were the precursors to and helped shape the abrahamic religions
 
Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
Meandflower said:
What do you think about this? Any thoughts?
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I think Jewish history is evidence that there are things which outlast nations, that peace can conquer fear. To me its not like a truth or lie to accept or reject. You could join or not, but it doesn't seem to me like something that you declare as true or false.

Meandflower said:
He got that teaching from the jewish Tanakh. Jesus was a jew.
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Agree though he is not famous among Jews. He is also human, and he does things that are rash and hyperbolic such as pick fishermen and dunderheads to be his representatives. He refuses to teach his disciples everything, instead telling us to learn on our own from the Holy Spirit. When we don't get his point he calls us 'Dull'. He sends his followers out into the world with strange preparation as if with only our shoes and a bright idea. Off we go creating various schools of thought which later on are known as heresies. Is this Jesus intent? For a long time many of these heresies have been forgotten, but some have been rediscovered. Many people think there is only one original school of thought, but now we know of several early ones.
 
Vee

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Meandflower said:
I believe Judaism is absolute true.

What do you think about this? Any thoughts?
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Only one, if you believe Judaism is absolute true, why did you note "Monotheist" in your religion, and not Judaism?
 
Samael_Khan

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
ChristineM said:
Ahura Mazda was worshipped as a god, Ahriman was an evil spirit

Its my belief that Atenism (and Zoroastrianism) were the precursors to and helped shape the abrahamic religions
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Ah.OK.

I am leaning in that direction myself with regards to the influences on Abrahamic religions. Added to that, I think the fluidity of the gods of the Egyptians also had a big impact on early Judaism and on the Christian idea of the Trinity.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Meandflower said:
I believe Judaism is absolute true. Why? Because Judaism is the first of the Abrahamic religion that believes in the one true God. I believe God wants us to love, serve and worship the one true God:

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One. And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. Deuteronomy 6 (In the old testament/jewish Tanakh)

Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:18 (In the old testament/Jewish Tanakh)

As you read above it was from the Tanakh/old testament Jesus got his teaching about you shalt love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. And the second is like unto it, you shalt love your neighbour as yourself (Matthew 22:36-40 in the New testament).

He got that teaching from the jewish Tanakh. Jesus was a jew.

I believe that because of judaism monotheism became more and more popular in this world, because of judaism the world got the ten commandments and I believe the ten commandmands is good ethical rules and commen sense. I believe that because of judaism this world became kinder to each other and had good ethical rules. And I believe because of judaism more people of this world understood that all humans is God's creation. And that all humans are equal.

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17)
1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.

What do you think about this? Any thoughts?
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I'm not prone to romantizing a religion anymore but I understand the appeal.

Whatever floats your boat. Go for it!
 
Starlight

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
ChristineM said:
And Zoroastrianism who worshipped their true god and believed to be the first monotheistic religion.

Judaism has at least 613 commandments
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Zoroastrianism is also true. I believe zoroastrianism is from God. I have read before that Zoroastrianism had an influence on Judaism, but is this true?
 
Starlight

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Vee said:
Only one, if you believe Judaism is absolute true, why did you note "Monotheist" in your religion, and not Judaism?
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Good question. That is because I believe many religions are from the one true God.
 
Harel13

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Trailblazer said:
How is Jesus seen?
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For starters, he was not how the NT depicts him. And that's also another point - he was. That's it. He's dead. Done deal. No coming back. So who was he? Well, that's a matter of debate among Jews. Some say he's one of the Yeshus depicted in the Talmud - there were a number of Second Temple and Post-Second Temple era criminals named Yeshu who were considered prominent enough to be mentioned in the Talmud. Some disagree and believe the NT's Jesus refers to a different individual. Perhaps he was a miracle-worker, perhaps he even had some Torah education in his background. Neither prove one is the messiah. If you accept some Talmudic version of him, then he was a criminal by Jewish law. If you accept that the NT refers to a different individual, then he might have had some special abilities and charisma, but the bottom line is that he failed in his attempt at being the messiah, and he ain't gonna get a second try. And no, his death doesn't do anything for our sins.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Harel13 said:
For starters, he was not how the NT depicts him. And that's also another point - he was. That's it. He's dead. Done deal. No coming back. So who was he? Well, that's a matter of debate among Jews. Some say he's one of the Yeshus depicted in the Talmud - there were a number of Second Temple and Post-Second Temple era criminals named Yeshu who were considered prominent enough to be mentioned in the Talmud. Some disagree and believe the NT's Jesus refers to a different individual. Perhaps he was a miracle-worker, perhaps he even had some Torah education in his background. Neither prove one is the messiah. If you accept some Talmudic version of him, then he was a criminal by Jewish law. If you accept that the NT refers to a different individual, then he might have had some special abilities and charisma, but the bottom line is that he failed in his attempt at being the messiah, and he ain't gonna get a second try. And no, his death doesn't do anything for our sins.
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I believe that Jesus is dead, never rose from the dead, and is not coming back.
I don't believe that Jesus was God as most Christians believe.
I believe that Jesus was a Prophet/Messenger of God.
I don't know if Jesus performed miracles and I don't think that is significant.
I believe that Jesus was a messiah but not the messiah Jews have long awaited.
I don't believe that Jesus failed in being the messiah that Christians believe he is because Jesus never pretended to be the messiah that Christians believe he is.
I don't believe Jesus is coming back to finish what he did not do, thus fulfilling the Messianic Age prophecies.
I believe that Jesus sacrificed himself for the sins and iniquities of all the peoples of the earth, but I do not believe that Jesus sacrificed himself for any original sin committed by Adam and Eve.
I don't believe that Jesus wiped away our sins by the cross sacrifice.
I believe people still sin and that everyone is responsible for their own sins because everyone has free will to choose between good and evil actions.
 
IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
ChristineM said:
And Zoroastrianism who worshipped their true god and believed to be the first monotheistic religion.

Judaism has at least 613 commandments
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Just from a cursory googling, Zoroastrianism began around the 6th century BCE, whereas Abraham lived circa 2000 BCE.
 
IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Vee said:
Only one, if you believe Judaism is absolute true, why did you note "Monotheist" in your religion, and not Judaism?
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There are non-Jews who agree with the revelation that Jews have received, but they are not obligated to become Jews or keep the commandments given to the Jews. They prefer to remain non-Jews and simply keep the commandments universal to mankind. They are usually referred to as the b'nei Noach, or Noachides. You might want to ask @Rival about it.
 
Starlight

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
IndigoChild5559 said:
There are non-Jews who agree with the revelation that Jews have received, but they are not obligated to become Jews or keep the commandments given to the Jews. They prefer to remain non-Jews and simply keep the commandments universal to mankind. They are usually referred to as the b'nei Noach, or Noachides. You might want to ask @Rival about it.
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Am I a Noahide according to Judaism or not?
 
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