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Why did god withdraw his blessing?

Deo Vindice

Member
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?

I don't think God does politics. Could be wrong, but I would suspect that the creator of the universe would have more to attend to than one country's politics on one lone planet...
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?

The US is starting to recover from Trumps unGodly 4 years of evoking and enabling the darkest, most selfish people (in Christian terms promoting not the 2 Greatest Commandments but their opposite and not the Sermon on the Mount but the darkness in the demonic swamp).

We have a ways to go before we are what John Wintrop hoped we would be, "a city on a hill", but we'll get there.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?
There is a very easy answer to that actually.....God has no part in the running of this world......he handed its rulership over to the devil in order to allow him to prove his case. Satan implied that humans do not need God or his rules for their lives to be successful, so God handed world rulership over to him as he indicated when he offered Jesus all the Kingdoms of the world in exchange for one act of worship. Jesus did not dispute the devil's ownership of all those kingdoms, and the temptation would have been meaningless if they were not his to give.
Luke 4:5-7....
"And the devil took him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time, 6 and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will. 7 If you, then, will worship me, it will all be yours.(ESV)

1 John 5:19 also tells us....
"We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one."

And the apostle Paul called the devil "the god of this world" who has the power to "blind the minds" of those he can deceive. (2 Corinthians 4:4) One such deception is that God has anything to do with the rulership of this world at all. Why do you think there is so much corruption in politics?

Jesus said....
"If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours. 21 But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me." (John 15:18-21)

If we want to be a friend of this world ruled by the devil, we will make ourselves God's enemy.
"You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." (James 4:4)

That is why the world rulers have no blessing from God.....they are influenced by an unseen puppeteer and we have to be "no part of this world" because Christians are citizens of God's Kingdom, which has nothing to do with the politics of any nation. (John 18:36)

Have you never been taught this? If not...why not?
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?

It’s difficult to answer questions that are loaded with such bias and assumptions.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?

When did the country EVER have his blessing? Back in the days when half our kids died before age five, or when we could own slaves? Or maybe you were referring to the days when we our 'just laws' allowed us to discriminate against minorities.

We have a long way to go as a nation before we align with 'Gods laws.' We haven't yet reached the pinnacle where we can execute homosexuals and rebellious children, or take enemy civilians as sex slaves.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?
It's because not enough people are wearing masks.

That's why you should wear a mask and follow social distancing rules.

2 Thessalonians 3:6 - "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?
Which and when was any country or party "under god"?
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
Good grief... I Ihought god chose who leads countries. Romans 13:1

I saw this verse a lot when trump was president - that god wanted trump to run the country (keep in mind, he only represents 1/3rd of the power in this country). But now that he's gone after only one term, people are blaming the country for making the wrong choice. Well, which is it?

I've never seen a man in this country so idolized as he was within my lifetime.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?
Maybe the shelf life expired.

We were never a country under God.

That delusion began in the fifties and it was all about fighting the Soviets and Communism when such slogans first appeared in the pledge of alliegence and on our currency.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?
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Praise Jah

Psalm 83:18
Why Would God forsake the politicians and party that represented his word and will and who strived to make our country's laws align with god's law? And how do almost half of the once greatest nation flip-flop something as black and white as good and evil? How did a country that was under god so easily fall from within?
God's Kingdom government (Matthew 6:10) will replace all the world's manmade governments. Jehovah's Kingdom will rule over the earth and it will eliminate all wickedness and establish peace on earth. (Psalm 37:10,11)
 

Deo Vindice

Member
It's because not enough people are wearing masks.

That's why you should wear a mask and follow social distancing rules.

2 Thessalonians 3:6 - "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."

It's the other way around. People placed their faith and trust in masks/science and not enough in God. But that's only a small part of a larger problem.
 

Deo Vindice

Member
God's Kingdom government (Matthew 6:10) will replace all the world's manmade governments. Jehovah's Kingdom will rule over the earth and it will eliminate all wickedness and establish peace on earth. (Psalm 37:10,11)
But the Republican party is/was god's instrument to do just that. Why would god allow his own will be undone?
 

Deo Vindice

Member
Maybe the shelf life expired.

We were never a country under God.

That delusion began in the fifties and it was all about fighting the Soviets and Communism when such slogans first appeared in the pledge of alliegence and on our currency.
It began with the declaration of independence and the constitution.
 
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