firedragon
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Laughter is the best medicine.
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Why do you try to discredit religions or religious people?
- Thread starter Spirit of Light
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Laughter is the best medicine.
Yahcubs777
Active Member
lmao
not really No. They told me the death of my savior who was "made sin" (medicine) for me was for my good. The best medicine is meditation therapy.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Laughter is the best medicine was a segment in Readers Digest. Doesnt mean its a scientifically proven fact.
I am very interested in seeing some more of your nice comments. Its entertaining and enlightening. Please keep going. Shows character.
Yahcubs777
Active Member
Laughter is the best medicine was a segment in Readers Digest. Doesnt mean its a scientifically proven fact.
I am very interested in seeing some more of your nice comments. Its entertaining and enlightening. Please keep going. Shows character.
I have a message to share which is uncompromisable. Therefore, its authoratative, its piercing like a sword., if the people would only give heed, and listen with an open mind, they would discover that all my comments come from a caring place. Thank you for your comment.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Because I care about society and the well being thereof as well as that of its citizens.
And when citizens of that society believe wacky things, they will make wacky decisions.
And whacky decisions potentially will harm society or individuals in said society, which includes me or my loved ones.
No good comes from holding wacky beliefs.
Note also that by "wacky" beliefs, I do mean ANY wacky beliefs.
Whether these beliefs are religious beliefs or otherwise, is of no interest per say.
I give "believers" of homeopathy and horoscopes and alike, the same treatment.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Brother. I was kidding. You show a lot of anger, disrespect, and an immediate resort to "LOL's", LMAO's and "HAHAHAHA's". You dont hear a person out, neither do you show any empathy. Thats your disposition. When you dont have the capacity to listen a little, how in the world would you expect others to do so?
Cheers.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Your answer make me qurious
Do you think that people who claim to be from a religious belief, but do harmful acts toward others is the cause of the rest of the religious people (who actually follow the theaching peacefully) also being tageted?
Here's the thing................
Before those people turned violent, they were "peaceful followers" as well.
It's also not only about physical harm / violence. There's also psychological abuse (both inflicted upon others as well as upon oneselves...)
Both.
The wrongdoer for being so morally bankrupt and the religion for poisoning the mind of the wrongdoer.
Yahcubs777
Active Member
I listen. I don't agree with nonsense. I don'tave respect for lies either. Hear the person out? Empathy for what? What is your message that you are sharing that I should listen to? I am not seeking the praise of men.
1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Interesting view
But if a person who do make the critique of a religious belief, have little to no knowledge about the teaching it self, is it a valied critique then? or is it only an opinion because this person have not seen the truth behind the teaching he or she make critique of?
Does it really matter?
Do I have to become an classical arabic speaking islamic scholar before I get to critizise the violent politcal islam that IS follows?
I don't think so.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
You can critique what you wish. I do not follow politics and i do not support IS.
As i Said in the OP you are free to critique, i just wonder why people do it. And you gave your answer.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
I'm sorry, but it is plain incorrect to say that they use(d) it as a "shield". This implies that they don't really believe it and really have other plans that they are hiding behind islam. This is simply not true.
Their religion IS their motivation to do what they do.
It's not just some "shield".
Sure, it's not the version of islam that you happen to follow.
But it's islam nonetheless.
The christianity that the Phelps follow also isn't the christianity that catholicism follows. But it's christianity nonetheless.
Sorry, no.
The version of islam that IS and alike follow, most definatly is evil.
There is not way around that.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
An interesting question is also to turn that question around............... As such:
Do you think secular law only applies to non-believers / secularists?
I remember you saying some time ago that you think muslims should follow the law of the land unless it is in conflict with islam.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Why IS ut incorrect to say that use ut så a Shield?
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
My personal view as that a muslim firstly follow islam, then the Law of the land.
Other may of course disagrre and that is ok
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
The whole idea of "forcing" someone to believe something, is absurd anyway.
People can't be "forced" to sincerely believe something, because what one believes or not is not some arbitrary choice like preferring a chicken dinner over steak.
Belief is a compulsory result of being convinced of something, for whatever reason. And one also doesn't "choose" what convinces someone.
So if somebody would really like to convince me of the truth of something, that person's only chance of success is by bringing me a reasonable argument and supporting evidence.
Sirona
Hindu Wannabe
Interesting view
But if a person who do make the critique of a religious belief, have little to no knowledge about the teaching it self, is it a valied critique then? or is it only an opinion because this person have not seen the truth behind the teaching he or she make critique of?
I think it is an annoying and highly questionable assumption to assume that non-believers automatically don't have any knowledge about a religion just because they don't "practice" it, or even worse, that some people may believe they automatically know everything about a religion because they "practice" it. For exmple, there are many Muslims out there parroting the words of the Quran without actually understanding them because they never learned Arabic and parroting the sounds of the words is all they've been trained for. In sum, there are probably a lot more ignorant believers out there than ignorant atheists-by-choice, and I say that as a religious person.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Irrelevant.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
I was responding to your suggestion that people should critique religions without really understanding the teachings.
As a response to that statement, I ask you: do we really need to become classical arabic speaking islamic scholars before we get to justifiably critique the violent political islam that serves as the inspiration and motivation for the likes of Al-qaida and ISIS?
I say: absolutely NOT.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
I already told you in the very post you are responding to.
To say that they use it as a shield, implies that they don't really believe it and that their actual motivation / inspiration comes from somewhere else.
This is simply not the case.
A shield, to hide what?
There's nothing there.
Their behavior and violence is directly linked / the result of what they believe religiously.
It's not a shield. It's instead the very ideology that informs their evil behavior.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
So your answer to the question is...
That secular law only applies to secularists / non-believers...
And that theists / muslims shouldn't care about that and instead should only follow their religious laws.
That is what you are saying.