Debate on hell

FineLinen said:

On this earth there are more than seven billion people!

The most populous lands are China, India, and other parts of Asia, and in spite of missionaries from the West, actually more than half of all people on the earth have never so much as heard the only Name by which men can be saved - the name of Jesus Christ!

This means that billions of people here on this earth have lived, and died, without having known anything about God's provision of salvation - without saving knowledge - neither having heard the only Name by which men may be saved!

Now think what that means. If all unsaved are eternally lost, then more than half the people who have ever lived on this earth have been consigned to eternal hell without ever having been given so much as a chance to escape it!

What about the millions of people living now in the modern nations of Red China where the Gospel is suppressed?

Those people did not choose to be born into these godless nations. Are they lost forever because they never heard the true message of God's love in Christ?

Is this their only day of salvation? Are they eternally doomed when they die?

Will a just God and Saviour condemn to eternal damnation those people who died before the true Gospel was ever brought to them?

Is God about to "shut the door" of mercy in their face? -J. Preston Eby-

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So, what is the only name in heaven or earth by which we can be saved, what is the name that the Lord God our savior gave to Jesus, his obedient servant?

John 17: 12; “While I was with them, I kept them safe by the power of your name, the name you gave me.”

John 8: 28-29; So he said to them, “When you lift up the Son of Man, you will know that ‘I Am Who I Am’; then you will know that I do nothing on my own authority, but I say only what the Father has instructed me to say. And he who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, because I always do what pleases him.

So, get behind me you charlatan priests and you shams, for I am true to my God, to MY God, ‘WHO I AM.’

Those who are true to who they are will live. They who are obedient to the very law that they impose on the society around them, such as, “Do not harm of kill me or mine, do not steal from me or mine, do not indulge in sex with my Partner, etc, etc, will live.

Jesus was asked, “What must I do to gain eternal life,” to which he answered “ Love God with all you heart, with all your mind=spirit, and with all your soul, and love your neighbour as yourself, and you will live. Do unto others only that which you would have others do unto you. What a wonderful world would that be to live in.

Jesus says in Matthew 25: 31-36; “When the Son of Man comes as King and all the angels with him, he will sit on his royal throne, 32and the people of all the nations will be gathered before him. Then he will divide them into two groups, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the righteous people on his right and the others on his left. 34Then the King will say to the people on his right, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father! Come and possess the kingdom which has been prepared for you ever since the creation of the world. 35I was hungry and you fed me, thirsty and you gave me a drink; I was a stranger and you received me in your homes, 36naked and you clothed me; I was sick and you took care of me, in prison and you visited me.’”

25: 40-; “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Away from me, you that are under God's curse! Away to the eternal fire which has been prepared for the Devil and his angels! I was hungry but you would not feed me, thirsty but you would not give me a drink; I was a stranger but you would not welcome me in your homes, naked but you would not clothe me; I was sick and in prison but you would not take care of me.’ ----- These, then, will be sent off to eternal punishment, but the righteous will go to eternal life.”

The second death from which there is no return, is the punishment that is eternal

Revelation 21: 5-; Then the one who sits on the throne (The Son of Man) said, “And now I make all things new!” He also said to me, “Write this, because these words are true and can be trusted.” And he said, “It is done! I am the first and the last, the beginning and the end. To anyone who is thirsty I will give the right to drink from the spring of the water of life without paying for it. Those who win the victory will receive this from me: I will be their God, and they will be my children. But cowards, traitors, perverts, murderers, the immoral, those who practise magic, those who worship idols, and all liars — the place for them is the lake burning with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.”

According to the scriptures, there is no eternal torment for the unrepentant and unforgivable, only eternal oblivion.

The disembodied spirits=minds, that all survive the first death of the body in which they had developed, who have refused to repent of there crimes against their fellow man, will suffer the second death, when those minds will be divided from the soul, (The divine animating principle that pervades and animates all within this universe) to which, lifeless souls, God will give a new body in which a new mind=spirit will develop in the new world where all will be true to Who They Are.

Those who gotta have their hell will find there are four to choose from.

All four are translated from tartarus, sheol, geheena & hades.

Furthermore, the Lake Of Theos/ Lake of Fire, in NOT hell. All four hells have one final destination: consumed in the Lake of God radiating, with theion and theioo.

Good riddance ! !

Did the Master of Reconciliation speak of hell more than heaven?

Did Jesus speak more about Hell than about Heaven?

FineLinen said:

Those who gotta have there hell will find there are four to choose from.

All four are translated from tartarus, sheol, geheena & hades.

Furthermore, the Lake Of Theos/ Lake of Fire, in NOT hell. All four hells have one final destination: consumed in the Lake of God radiating, with theion and theioo.

Good riddance ! !

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The Bible doesn't say that the final destination of hell is heaven. Hell exists because God has laws and similar to human laws, when people do the wrong thing, there are consequences. If a judge were to let a criminal go, he would not be a just judge. That is why John 3:16 says For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Rob Bell: Populating Hell | Good Fight Ministries

Logically, this kind of mindset would only encourage criminals to continue on with their wicked and perverse thoughts and deeds. However, Rob Bell is offering this same type of counterfeit hope of post mortem salvation, which is absolutely foreign to the teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ. Tragically, this deceiving and licentious doctrine will prove to be a powerful satanic attack that will actually help to swell the population of Hell. Many of those who might otherwise repent, will sadly buy into Bell’s lie and take his false doctrine to its practical conclusions. Wrong doctrine leads to wrong living and could potentially lead many straight to Hell for all eternity.

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Skywalker said:

The Bible doesn't say that the final destination of hell is heaven. Hell exists because God has laws and similar to human laws, when people do the wrong thing, there are consequences.

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Sky: as Judge Judy says, "put on your reading glasses."

The final end of all four hells (4) is not heaven, it is Theos.

Questions ? ? ?

Since we are required to love our enemies, may we not safely infer that God loves His enemies? (Matt. 5:44)

If God loves His enemies, will He punish them more than will be for their good?

Would endless punishment be for the good of any being?

Since God loves His friends, if He loves His enemies also, are not all mankind the objects of His love?

If God loves those only who love Him, what better is He than the sinner? (Luke 6:32-33)

Since "love thinketh no evil," can God design the ultimate evil of a single soul? (1 Cor. 13:5)

Since "love worketh no ill," can God inflict, or cause, or allow to be inflicted, an endless ill? (Rom. 13:10)

Since we are forbidden to be overcome by evil, can we safely suppose that God will be overcome by evil? (Rom. 12:21)

Would not the infliction of endless punishment prove that God had been overcome by evil?

If man does wrong in returning evil for evil, would not God do wrong if He was to do the same?

Would not endless punishment be the return of evil for evil?

Since we are commanded "to overcome evil with good," may we not safely infer that God will do the same? (Rom. 12:21)

Would the infliction of endless punishment be overcoming evil with good?

FineLinen said:

Sky: as Judge Judy says, "put on your reading glasses."

The final end of all four hells (4) is not heaven, it is Theos.

Questions ? ? ?

Since we are required to love our enemies, may we not safely infer that God loves His enemies? (Matt. 5:44)

If God loves His enemies, will He punish them more than will be for their good?

Would endless punishment be for the good of any being?

Since God loves His friends, if He loves His enemies also, are not all mankind the objects of His love?

If God loves those only who love Him, what better is He than the sinner? (Luke 6:32-33)

Since "love thinketh no evil," can God design the ultimate evil of a single soul? (1 Cor. 13:5)

Since "love worketh no ill," can God inflict, or cause, or allow to be inflicted, an endless ill? (Rom. 13:10)

Since we are forbidden to be overcome by evil, can we safely suppose that God will be overcome by evil? (Rom. 12:21)

Would not the infliction of endless punishment prove that God had been overcome by evil?

If man does wrong in returning evil for evil, would not God do wrong if He was to do the same?

Would not endless punishment be the return of evil for evil?

Since we are commanded "to overcome evil with good," may we not safely infer that God will do the same? (Rom. 12:21)

Would the infliction of endless punishment be overcoming evil with good?

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Annihilationism is false doctrine because human beings were created to live forever. God gave Adam and Eve the breath of life.

Science a man thinking with brother group science agreement said the will testament about God is God's will versus man as a him or he will.

God stone sealed protected life.

He'll is a defined statement of man science by my will. By science laws in science man stated. Thesis.

My will is he will. He as he taught in Hebrew symbolism meant window. EL he said gods powers.

Yet God owned no power was sealed as a God angel story theme life's protection.

Humans say correctly hell is a fallacy. Natural awareness conscious first.

Thesis. Science.

Man did it. Man in science tells all stories. Man in science confessed he caused it. Life to be unnaturally recorded attacked.

As heavenly spirit body changed.

Why it was taught.

Is not God relative is human science caused relative as. Human warning that involved human visionary memories and voiced recordings of the event.

Heard in phenomena conditions.

Humans don't believe until a phenomena condition is introduced. Then like Jesus man get ridiculed at the advice. Stated mockery as a phenomena condition which the Jesus event detailed.

Today humans hurt in phenomena events mocked and ridiculed also.

As it is not natural it is not accepted teaching as it should not occur.

Frank Goad said:

What do you think of Luke 16:19-31.And Isaiah 14:9-11.And Deuteronomy 32:22.And Psalms 86:13?

I already posted this on Religions Q&A.But wanted to post it here to get a debate going.Because If I would of stared a debate on Religions Q&A the debate wouldn't have belonged there.

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Hell is the ghost world. The Rich man is a tare, Lazarus is a child of the kingdom. The tare is not a tare because he is called "rich", he is born a tare. Even if he was not rich in silver and gold he is rich because he is in his glorified state. This simply means that he is not in a fallen state as a mortal. For him there is no disagreement between his spirit and his body; they are one. Mortality is the best that person can have. And these people know it as well coining phrases like.. "You only live once", "Living your best life", "Life is a party", "Born to be wild", "started from the bottom now im here".... These are confessions from their spirit being of their hominid status.

While Lazarus is called poor, and even a beggar, because he is a child of the kingdom and needs to be fed with the bread of life. He is in a fallen state as a mortal; his Spirit and his body are not in agreement and therefore are not one. He is a stranger in the earth; a descendent of Adam; whose Spirit Being was sent from the fathers Bosom into the earth to pick up a physical body. He is therefore a child of the kingdom.

In Luke 16:19-30 is where GOD revealed to us the journey of the dead. That didn't change at all just because saul paul started preaching lies like: To be absent from the body is to be present with the LORD... That is a lie. Saul Paul stole the scrolls and hijacked the church, as an undercover agent for the enemy of mankind, and the things he wrote are his own interpretations of what was in the scrolls. So there are things which were twisted, and there are things which his brain suggested is what the writings were saying, but nearly all of his writings are one of these or the other. He also didn't know that John the Beloved would receive revelations from Jesus His Pre-Eminence HIMSELF on the Island of Patmos, that would reveal things that disagreed with saul paul. But let me leave that aside.

In the Allegory, the rich man goes the hell, while Lazarus goes to Abrahams Bosom. But they are both in the same world because they can communicate with each other. It is written that the rich man can even see where Lazarus is. None of them are in heaven or the lake of fire; they are in a ghost world but they are separated by a great gulf. And he is experiencing a fire of thirst (which reveals what the fires of hell is), and asks Abraham to send Lazarus to dip his finger into the water and put it on his tongue. Abraham says lazarus cannot. And the rich man realises where he is, and he asks Abraham to let him go back to warn the people so that they do not come to this place. And Abraham replies: If they do not hear the Law and the Prophets, neither will one who rose from the dead convince them.

This Allegory proves that no one goes to heaven through death. It also proves that wheats and tares are separated in that ghost world. And finally that the hell that Jesus His Pre-Eminence spoke about is the place where the dead go to, revealing HIS messages were about living without dying at all. For death; the path of dying, cannot lead you to life. Finally that GOD does not throw anyone into hell; hell is the ghost world for ghosts without physical body. Death is the path into the ghost world.

Isaiah 14:9-11

This passage speaks of the unholy alliance between the mortal men of the earth and celestial beings that together made war against the children of the kingdom. It is written in agreement with the book of Revelation, which speaks of a beast with 7 heads and 10 horns, which is 6 cherubim and 1 seraph, and then tare angels as well, along with the occults in the earth which are given power to rule one nation or the other. These mortal men and woman that allined themselves with them are those that have the mark of the beast. So they are saying here, has thou become weak as us to be burned in the lake of fire. For lucifer which is a cherub and his cohorts deceived these men and women with the lie that they are gods; lucifer and cohorts believed they cannot be affected by the lake of fire. Hell being removed is speaking in agreement with Revelation 20, that hell and death were cast into the lake of fire.

Deuteronomy 32:22

This is difficult to explain without explaining alot of other things first. So i will just release a few facts regarding the Most Holy Character of GOD. GOD is impregnable, GOD cannot be moved to act one way or another. GOD is not a force. GOD cannot be angered, not to talk of moved to anger. GOD cannot be taken unnawares HE sees what happens before it happens. GOD is not reactive, HE knows the end from the beginning.

The person spoken of here is the Son of Man, not GOD. But Moses didn't understand it. That is why the messages of the Son of Man came by the Prophets, not the Law. The Law spoke of the one that would take over from him, and that person is the Son of Man, which was called "The Prophet". That Prophet is Elijah. It is Elijah that can be moved to Jealousy. Remember they wrote that GOD made Moses a god unto pharoah. And then he spoke of the one that is like unto him, that is Elijah. And there is alot of proof but i wont go into it. I will just say it is written in Deuteronomy 18 that the Prophet which is sent by GOD did not die. Eliljah didn't die. Moses parted the red sea, Elijah parted the River Jordan. Thus this verse is speaking about the person who brought down babylon, who judged the world, and brought home the celestial.

Psalms 86:13

I personally love psalms, not because it sounds nice, but because i know who is speaking. King David played the role or similitude of the Son of GOD, Adam His Eminence. That same Adam from the Garden of Eden. The things he says in this book is in the direct shoes of Adam, which is why David was called "A man after GOD's own heart". This verse in particular is Father Adam speaking, of his GOD and Father delivering him from prison. That Prison is hell, which is where the tares go to, as he had been held down by the Law of Procreation. Thus, this verse speaks about how the GOD will deliver him, and has delivered him from hell. Father Adam, the Father of all the children of the kingdom did not go to Arahams Bosom, but to hell, which is the price he paid to start procreation. Thus, resurrection is not the issue for him, and mother eve. But what the needed was a bail price, which they got when Jesus His Pre-Eminence came into the earth in the shoes of Adam, and took their place so that they could be released. Father Adam, and Mother Eve were called ":The lost sheep of Israel" , revealed further in the parable of the 1 sheep the shephard lost, and how he would leave 99 righteous to go and get that one sheep that was lost. That sheep there is speaking of Father Adam, His Eminence, the Son of GOD.

Yahcubs777 said:

Hell is the ghost world. The Rich man is a tare, Lazarus is a child of the kingdom. The tare is not a tare because he is called "rich", he is born a tare. Even if he was not rich in silver and gold he is rich because he is in his glorified state. This simply means that he is not in a fallen state as a mortal. For him there is no disagreement between his spirit and his body; they are one. Mortality is the best that person can have. And these people know it as well coining phrases like.. "You only live once", "Living your best life", "Life is a party", "Born to be wild", "started from the bottom now im here".... These are confessions from their spirit being of their hominid status.

While Lazarus is called poor, and even a beggar, because he is a child of the kingdom and needs to be fed with the bread of life. He is in a fallen state as a mortal; his Spirit and his body are not in agreement and therefore are not one. He is a stranger in the earth; a descendent of Adam; whose Spirit Being was sent from the fathers Bosom into the earth to pick up a physical body. He is therefore a child of the kingdom.

In Luke 16:19-30 is where GOD revealed to us the journey of the dead. That didn't change at all just because saul paul started preaching lies like: To be absent from the body is to be present with the LORD... That is a lie. Saul Paul stole the scrolls and hijacked the church, as an undercover agent for the enemy of mankind, and the things he wrote are his own interpretations of what was in the scrolls. So there are things which were twisted, and there are things which his brain suggested is what the writings were saying, but nearly all of his writings are one of these or the other. He also didn't know that John the Beloved would receive revelations from Jesus His Pre-Eminence HIMSELF on the Island of Patmos, that would reveal things that disagreed with saul paul. But let me leave that aside.

In the Allegory, the rich man goes the hell, while Lazarus goes to Abrahams Bosom. But they are both in the same world because they can communicate with each other. It is written that the rich man can even see where Lazarus is. None of them are in heaven or the lake of fire; they are in a ghost world but they are separated by a great gulf. And he is experiencing a fire of thirst (which reveals what the fires of hell is), and asks Abraham to send Lazarus to dip his finger into the water and put it on his tongue. Abraham says lazarus cannot. And the rich man realises where he is, and he asks Abraham to let him go back to warn the people so that they do not come to this place. And Abraham replies: If they do not hear the Law and the Prophets, neither will one who rose from the dead convince them.

This Allegory proves that no one goes to heaven through death. It also proves that wheats and tares are separated in that ghost world. And finally that the hell that Jesus His Pre-Eminence spoke about is the place where the dead go to, revealing HIS messages were about living without dying at all. For death; the path of dying, cannot lead you to life. Finally that GOD does not throw anyone into hell; hell is the ghost world for ghosts without physical body. Death is the path into the ghost world.

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A path by science descriptions. Humans alive walk on paths. As you live the heavens records you walking around.

Your psyche tells you as secondary advice I am walking on paths. Natural.

Science says brain uses paths in its bio form. When you die you no longer are walking nor does a brain function.

Science looking for God won't find God in a water bio organic life with mineral chemicals reactive living

We are not God. Not in a NDE moment or anywhere else.

rational experiences said:

A path by science descriptions. Humans alive walk on paths. As you live the heavens records you walking around.

Your psyche tells you as secondary advice I am walking on paths. Natural.

Science says brain uses paths in its bio form. When you die you no longer are walking nor does a brain function.

Science looking for God won't find God in a water bio organic life with mineral chemicals reactive living

We are not God. Not in a NDE moment or anywhere else.

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None of that has anything to do with what i said. There is the path to life, which is the path to transfiguration. There is the path to death, which is slowly dying. From the moment a person is born in this earth, they are one second closer to their death. After one day, they are a day closer, and after a year, a year closer, after 10 years, 10 years closer. The entire life span of a mortal is the path that leads to death. Therefore, a person born or baptised into the mortal body that can die, was baptised into death.

Yahcubs777 said:

None of that has anything to do with what i said. There is the path to life, which is the path to transfiguration. There is the path to death, which is slowly dying. From the moment a person is born in this earth, they are one second closer to their death. After one day, they are a day closer, and after a year, a year closer, after 10 years, 10 years closer. The entire life span of a mortal is the path that leads to death. Therefore, a person born or baptised into the mortal body that can die, was baptised into death.

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No. Baptism holy water never took life.

We live.

We survive.

We live until we die.

Babies die don't even have an opportunity to walk the paths in life. Where your own two feet took you.

We are born to live only.

rational experiences said:

No. Baptism holy water never took life.

We live.

We survive.

We live until we die.

Babies die don't even have an opportunity to walk the paths in life. Where your own two feet took you.

We are born to live only.

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I didn't say baptism holy water.

.1. Baptism is the immersion of the person into a physical body.
2. No mortal is actually living, they are dying.
3. Babies can die because their body mortal. its no different than someone aging 100 years and dying. Its the same body with the same organs and same weaknesses.
4. We are born into this earth to pick up a physical body.

Yahcubs777 said:

I didn't say baptism holy water.

.1. Baptism is the immersion of the person into a physical body.
2. No mortal is actually living, they are dying.
3. Babies can die because their body mortal. its no different than someone aging 100 years and dying. Its the same body with the same organs and same weaknesses.
4. We are born into this earth to pick up a physical body.

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You the self making claims are an already owned human body.

Who thinks my cells die constantly and my new spirit is re emerged back into the same form I always owned.

You never went anywhere.
Baptism was. Teaching about life is holy by water over our head compared to sacrificed gas light flame owning light but can burn you.

In the higher heavens.

We live by the cell replacing itself being what a cell does.

We die as the cell ages losing natural ability to replace full cell function.

We are not born to own anything other than a healthy cell until it dies.

As all conscious statements are made by a fully functioning human you have to own a want of what you seek in information to argue.

Motivation of information therefore depends on what you want first.

Most humans don't think about cell loss just constant life presence only.

rational experiences said:

You the self making claims are an already owned human body.

Who thinks my cells die constantly and my new spirit is re emerged back into the same form I always owned.

You never went anywhere.
Baptism was. Teaching about life is holy by water over our head compared to sacrificed gas light flame owning light but can burn you.

In the higher heavens.

We live by the cell replacing itself being what a cell does.

We die as the cell ages losing natural ability to replace full cell function.

We are not born to own anything other than a healthy cell until it dies.

As all conscious statements are made by a fully functioning human you have to own a want of what you seek in information to argue.

Motivation of information therefore depends on what you want first.

Most humans don't think about cell loss just constant life presence only.

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Im glad you understand the cell system is the problem.

The cell system of the mortal body is the entire issue, and is the sin nature. The baptism into the mortal body is a baptism into death because the cell system of the mortal body dies.
But that is not the only cell system. There is the immortal cell system, which is the life force of immortal bodies. And that cell system is what needs to be added gradually for the rebirth of the physical body from mortal to immortal. That is a baptism: The process of the person being imnmersed into their immortal celestial body. Man is not the body; the body is the garment he wears which gives him access into the earth. The Man is a Spirit Being, programmed in the soul and immersed/Baptised into the physical body.

Therefore, what dies is the body, not the Spirit. And that body is limited to live as he cell system can sustain itself; the cell system that is self-destructive in nature. And that body is the casket for the Man in this earth. When that body dies, the person Spirit Being goes to the ghost world. The consciouness of the person is not from the brain.

Yahcubs777 said:

Im glad you understand the cell system is the problem.

The cell system of the mortal body is the entire issue, and is the sin nature. The baptism into the mortal body is a baptism into death because the cell system of the mortal body dies.
But that is not the only cell system. There is the immortal cell system, which is the life force of immortal bodies. And that cell system is what needs to be added gradually for the rebirth of the physical body from mortal to immortal. That is a baptism: The process of the person being imnmersed into their immortal celestial body. Man is not the body; the body is the garment he wears which gives him access into the earth. The Man is a Spirit Being, programmed in the soul and immersed/Baptised into the physical body.

Therefore, what dies is the body, not the Spirit. And that body is limited to live as he cell system can sustain itself; the cell system that is self-destructive in nature. And that body is the casket for the Man in this earth. When that body dies, the person Spirit Being goes to the ghost world. The consciouness of the person is not from the brain.

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Why science is wrong. You first theoried for your personal man removal by time shift.

Were never the same spiritual man since.

Our fathers memory spiritual. As his babies are us he really loved us. He never had to prove his love to me. I heard a spiritual daughter message. Crying because he had died. I cried too when I heard it.. I truly loved him without having him today in my life.

I learnt what a Spirit father is. Real. His love for me real. His belief in his children real. Science might not believe in him I do.

"The current Evangelical theology involves in its system belief in the deathlessness of sin, the indestructibility of error, and permanence of evil. That though there was a time in the history of the universe when sin in any shape or form did not exist, when no cry of pain or sense of guilt darkened the all-extensive bliss and holiness of creation, yet since sin has once effected an entrance into such a scene, it has come in never to go out again, indestructible, unconquerable, ineradicable, endless. Absolute happiness and sinlessness have forever vanished like the phantom of a dream. The eternal state is a universe endlessly finding room for myriads of souls rolling and writhing in the burning agonies of ceaseless flame, eternally sinful, vile and morally hideous. It pictures the final perfection yet to be attained as having room for a vast cesspool of immoral and degraded beings, continually existing in opposition to God." -V. Gelesnoff-

Skywalker said:

Verses need proper context in order to understand the true meaning. The context of Hebrews 9:27 means that people only live once and there is an eternity after that.

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Show me the word eternity in this verse: "Heb.9:27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment" or show me the context that says that. I believe I see none.

Muffled said:

Show me the word eternity in this verse: "Heb.9:27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment" or show me the context that says that. I believe I see none.

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Hebrews:9 28 mentions salvation. That shows that Hebrews 9:27 doesn't hint at reincarnation and hints against it. So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

FineLinen said:

Those who gotta have their hell will find there are four to choose from.

All four are translated from tartarus, sheol, geheena & hades.

Furthermore, the Lake Of Theos/ Lake of Fire, in NOT hell. All four hells have one final destination: consumed in the Lake of God radiating, with theion and theioo.

Good riddance ! !

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I believe the word Hell is used when it shouldn't be. I think western thinking is that a place of fire is Hell. So it matters not what one wishes to call it but the place that people not found in the book of life go to is the lake of fire. I see that as Hell and nothing else.

Skywalker said:

Hebrews:9 28 mentions salvation. That shows that Hebrews 9:27 doesn't hint at reincarnation and hints against it. So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

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I believe you can't show any logic that says Heb 9:27 hints against reincarnation. Actually Heb. 9:28 does hint at reincarnation because those "that look for Him" can include those saved in the first century and "He shall appear the second time."