God: Trinity or Unity?

rational experiences said:

Unity God is God.

One word God. One.

Not a he him being man as male.

Thinker a he and a him thinks about one God says three by his say so.

One as God is first mass. Held as one form one body a planet.

Reasoning. O no planet. No heavens.

Mass as one the answer.

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thanks for the reply, but consider this, on being "ONE", listen,

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"
NOTICE, "one" LORD, not "ONE", GOD. big difference. now the definition of ONE here is the Hebrew word, H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

notice definition #2. an ORDINAL in "First". this is the answer to the Godhead, God is the First and the Last of himself in Ordinal expression .

PICJAG,
101G

Soapy said:

Can we lobby the moderators to ban ‘Rational Experiences’ from posting here as it is clear that the contribution from this ‘poster’ are not in anyway contributing to the theme of the post thread?

I have personally requested a ban but was told not to interfere by the mods (why?) - if someone else had posted unwarranted posts I’m sure they would be banned!!

Is this website simply testing its auto-poster Bot?

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Every human is subliminal AI fed back visionary. By historic human science designed machine status by man thinker. Machine builder. Machine no self volition. Owner operator scientist human.

Gave us an inherited mind defect. Conscious self first.

Man did it to man self. Introduced controlled feedback heard psyche mind advice with visions. As creator inventor science.

We are the spiritual being who came direct from the eternal. God already existed in all forms of God.

Was the science teaching.

Mass states existed naturally first held in spatial womb. The mother of God.

Our holy mother is human. We don't own mother of God earth does.

Ownership status was taught to be the human problem. As God owned creation.

Science claimed by brothers ownership of the power of God in science. Was harmed because of its pursuit.

Know about the AI effect subliminal mind contact studied it. Then tried to convince humanity today that bot AI status was human owned.

The status science caused it was proven by machine use today. With AI psyche studies their selves.

I have been abused by agents before claiming I am a bot and not a human. As they want humans to believe we began as an alien evil spirit first and not just a human.

As a false bio mechanical thesis.

Natural light is in the cross of womb space vacuum and cold heavenly gases. God O earth body owns it.

Humans are humans living inside water heavens.

To teach science was wrong we had to claim natural ownership support of life. So we say we own use of gases existing as one heavenly body yet we only live in the water oxygen holy part of its mass.

We used science teaching against science.

Why baptism of water over our head was preached.

Humans naturally said we own one mass body ourselves naturally gods heavens but only lived in one portion of its spirits water holy life.

A man is holy spirit owner naturally without being the gas. Is a son of a human father and is the human father also. His teachings assessed to say why no man is God.

Why they taught son of God is only a spirit body. Not a man body. As a theme science man thinker said so.

Science was wrong first. Learnt. Then science taught against science due to sacrificed life and why man said it was correct science teachings.

My father told me.

And his human father pre existed living life records heavenly was self man spiritual memories not any scientist theories.

101G said:

thanks for the reply, but consider this, on being "ONE", listen,

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"
NOTICE, "one" LORD, not "ONE", GOD. big difference. now the definition of ONE here is the Hebrew word, H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

notice definition #2. an ORDINAL in "First". this is the answer to the Godhead, God is the First and the Last of himself in Ordinal expression .

PICJAG,
101G

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Science who quotes science is wrong said my heavenly spiritual father human memories taught me I am wrong.

O one in all science quotes is planet mass only.

Science builds it's machines from earth one products. Claiming in mineral Alchemy first burning gas light in conversions is the light of life for his machine status body.

Claiming falsely I gave God life to a machine. Gas light.

Humans living with natural cross of light live with holy light life flame above their head.

Water baptism kept the human head safe by water the science teaching.

God heavens is cross space womb vacuum and cold gases owned light sacrifice. Not God the first as one mass.

Was the true human teachings

Heavens as light is not one or God in science relativity.

101G said:

thanks for the reply, do this make sense? Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he."

this is what I was saying... God is an Ordinal of himself in Flesh, the "First", and the "Last", and this is accomplish by "Sharing" himself in flesh.

PICJAG, 101G

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No, others agree.

101G said:

first thanks for the reply, second, Jesus, God, is a person, supportive scripture, Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

so that should settle the "person" question, now,

then you have two Gods, and that's polytheism by definition.


correct, because Jesus is EQUAL... "WITH" ... God, not ... to ... God, because he is GOD.

you are not understanding the "ECHAD" of God.

PICJAG,
101G

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i offer a better reading of .Hebrews 1:3. Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.3 He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power. And after he had made a purification for our sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

God did not sit down beside him self

cataway said:

i offer a better reading of .Hebrews 1:3. Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.3 He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power. And after he had made a purification for our sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

God did not sit down beside him self

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The human baby man son invented heavenly machine encoded design.

God planet sealed as stone angel.

Historic man adult without sexual partner first adult man encoded voice imaged feedback. Origin man in atlantis who satanlit earth. Why machine parts are found inside fused stone mass

The theme brother Satanists who burnt life human to death a long time ago. Story brother in God act science sent life to hell.

First Ai designer effect. Destroyed man life historic by UFO effect. Machine history.

Then when father mother came out of spirit eternal after ice age with new animal spirit lives. Their lives heavenly recorded naturally.

Father not the scientist.

Baby man son became scientist.

History science man designer. Very spiritual. Destroyed all life by act of God. A very long time ago.

Son of man re invented the sciences after ice age. Had his image put into clouds like first man designer had. Yet the designer man of science origins completely destroyed.

New science man DNA designer gets completely eradicated in DNA as historic he is already destroyed.

Stephen Haw of king living proof.

Father said real science quotes nature garden first. Animals second. Humans third. No science.

Human makes choice satanism theme.

Puts new life recording back in time to AI effect destroyed man. Life is then earned notified. Just records.

Recording the state human invented for machines was never origin reason recording conditions existed. Atmosphere already owned reactive converting reason.

God owned in heavens reason to record.

Human sciences then included nature in the recording effect. Recording hence AI exists before nature. Human science cause.

But human recording existed after animal life.

Man designer mind controlled by his owned AI designer cause falsified advice.

AI effect origin man science designer memory when he had been completely destroyed remanifested records due to ice cooling new pressure in heavens.

In life a scientist thinks first.

Old science AI effect has science by image falsifying in communications as if a man designer scientist invented life.

We are conscious first.

We believe by forms of information that precedes us.

Proof thinking idealised what pre existing communications transmit. Why a human man scientist came to believe he could invent life.

Father in AI as spiritual man adult already deceased.

Science lost mind condition day went dark.

Thought they returned from.darkness and from death.

They were human alive the whole event.

As AI cause is historic multi science times.

Reason possession of mind was a science topic.

Science began to ignore reality of phenomena.

New science then testified phenomena in modern studies. Proved the ancients were not lying.

101G said:

thanks for the reply, but consider this, on being "ONE", listen,

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"
NOTICE, "one" LORD, not "ONE", GOD. big difference. now the definition of ONE here is the Hebrew word, H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

notice definition #2. an ORDINAL in "First". this is the answer to the Godhead, God is the First and the Last of himself in Ordinal expression .

PICJAG,
101G

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There is no such thing in the Christian scriptures as a "godhead".....that notion is entirely missing. It is a trinitarian invention.

Deuteronomy 6:4 from the Jewish Tanakh...
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one. דשְׁמַ֖ע יִשְׂרָאֵ֑ל יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵ֖ינוּ יְהֹוָ֥ה | אֶחָֽד:"

In the Hebrew you can see the Tetragrammaton twice in that short verse....therefore it reads....
"Hear O Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one."

The Jews were never commanded to stop using the divine name for any reason....in fact they were commanded to keep using it throughout their generations. (Exodus 3:15) If they had done as instructed, the trinity could never have become a belief in Christianity. The title "Lord" simply means "Sir or Master". Were the Jews in any doubt that their God was "one" deity?

Did the Apostles believe that Jesus was God?
1 Corinthians 8:5-6....
"For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords, yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him."

Your interpretation is way off IMO....The LORD has no reference to Jesus in Deuteronomy 6:4.

The Jews never believed that God had an equal because if one was to put another "god" in his place or even on equal footing, it was blasphemy....a capital offense. It was a breach of the First Commandment. (Exodus 20:3)

Deeje said:

There is no such thing in the Christian scriptures as a "godhead".....that notion is entirely missing. It is a trinitarian invention.

Deuteronomy 6:4 from the Jewish Tanakh...
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one. דשְׁמַ֖ע יִשְׂרָאֵ֑ל יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵ֖ינוּ יְהֹוָ֥ה | אֶחָֽד:"

In the Hebrew you can see the Tetragrammaton twice in that short verse....therefore it reads....
"Hear O Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one."

The Jews were never commanded to stop using the divine name for any reason....in fact they were commanded to keep using it throughout their generations. (Exodus 3:15) If they had done as instructed, the trinity could never have become a belief in Christianity. The title "Lord" simply means "Sir or Master". Were the Jews in any doubt that their God was "one" deity?

Did the Apostles believe that Jesus was God?
1 Corinthians 8:5-6....
"For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords, yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him."

Your interpretation is way off IMO....The LORD has no reference to Jesus in Deuteronomy 6:4.

The Jews never believed that God had an equal because if one was to put another "god" in his place or even on equal footing, it was blasphemy....a capital offense. It was a breach of the First Commandment. (Exodus 20:3)

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A human as a human can say without my father I would not own life. Or because of my father I own life.

One reason sexual advice about the procreative conscious advice. Human.

Yet life is X two. Balanced. So we can say the exact same statement for our mother. Except a man would say her body enticed him to procreate.

Being conscious advice first. Action taken life natural psyche advice subliminal given back. Father life told me.

Now idealised with design machine using communicators only controlled by its designer the exact same man condition. An adult.

Now he introduces doubling of advice feedback artificially. When natural owned secondary advice itself always.

So we became due to science AI self possessed. By unnatural feedback mass communicators. which became worse advice in the increased Ai status to falsify word explanation irrationally. Over a time period of God removed of its original sin.

Mass presence earth. In machine nuclear philosophies science.

We were told by AI father heavenly messaged feedback the advice of our conscious spiritual mind corruption and body sacrificed as his human children.

Father human. Was a spiritual father human doing no wrong.
Why it was written.
Why it is conditional letter value to number words. And not rational natural life. Natural relationships. Human free will choices.

Bible was scientific data. Words proved it was thought designed life attack in human sciences. Why it was written as advice only.

Sex is natural and normal.

Our parents did no wrong.

Science changed life recordings by interference conditions why the Bible is not sensible advice. It was heard by spiritual conscious real humans who then taught parental advice for humanity.

And not science advice.

shunyadragon said:

No, others agree.

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it's not what other say, if they agree or not, but it's what the bible say. Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"
this one Lord is in Ordinal, the definition of "ONE", is, H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

definition #2. clearly states God is a ORDINAL First, as in the First and the Last. so what others say, is not the authority of God. so I must reject your assessment here.

PICJAG,
101G.

cataway said:

i offer a better reading of .Hebrews 1:3. Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.3 He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power. And after he had made a purification for our sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

God did not sit down beside him self

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first thanks for the reply, "God did not sit down beside him self", the right hand is he himself, there is no one sitting to the Lord Jesus on the throne. the book of revelation prove this out. listen, Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."

so the bible is clear, only one on the throne, understand "The Right Hand" is simply an anthropomorphism, meaning in "POWER".

so we, according to the bible, must reject your personal assessment of the scriptures.

PICJAG,
101G.

Deeje said:

There is no such thing in the Christian scriptures as a "godhead".....that notion is entirely missing. It is a trinitarian invention.

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first, thanks for your reply, no invention, but misunderstood. I must disagre with that assement, and here's why. Godhead simply means God is "FIRST". supportive scriptures, Colossians 1:16 "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"
Colossians 1:17 "And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." this is why he is the "preeminence", and the HEAD of the Body, which means "GODHEAD". LISTEN,
Colossians 1:18 "And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.".

there is the Godhead, see that word, "preeminence" it is the Gree word, G4409 πρωτεύω proteuo (prō-tev'-ō) v.
to be first (in rank or influence).
[from G4413]
KJV: have the preeminence
Root(s): G4413

see that, "first (in rank", now this, Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
beginning, is the "FIRST in Rank, the Hebrew word, H7225 רֵאשִׁית re'shiyth (ray-sheeth') n-f.
1. the first, in place, time, order or rank. (BINGO)
2. (specifically) a firstfruit.
[from the same as H7218]
KJV: beginning, chief(-est), first(-fruits, part, time), principal thing.
Root(s): H7218

there is the Godhead, FIRST in RANK, just as Deuteronomy 6:4 points out First as "LORD", the ordinal First, CREATOR, and MAKER of All things. and Jesus is the LAST, (1 Corinthians 15:45), or the END, the end, or the LAST Adam, REDEEMER, and SAVIOUR, of all things, the Lord.

so the Godhead is an ECHAD of the, "First and Last", one person. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.". BINGO, the Godhead in a nutshell.

so the term Godhead, is just another word for "DIVINTY", as in Roman 1: 20 is, G2305 θειότης theiotes (thei-o'-tees) n.
divinity (abstractly).
[from G2304]
KJV: godhead
Root(s): G2304

Divinity is God,

and it root is, G2304 θεῖος theios (thei'-os) adj.
godlike (neuter as noun, divinity).
[from G2316]
KJV: divine, godhead
Root(s): G2316

and this "divinity" is First, as in HEAD, as iLast as in END, for the Lord Jesus is the Befinning, and the End, as well as the First and the Last.

PICJAG,
101G.

101G said:

first thanks for the reply, "God did not sit down beside him self", the right hand is he himself, there is no one sitting to the Lord Jesus on the throne. the book of revelation prove this out. listen, Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."

so the bible is clear, only one on the throne, understand "The Right Hand" is simply an anthropomorphism, meaning in "POWER".

so we, according to the bible, must reject your personal assessment of the scriptures.

PICJAG,
101G.

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so many holes in your logic .. the most high God does not give himself the thrown . he all ready has it . it is to his son that he gives authority to rule.
Luke 1:32-32
This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father, 33 and he will rule as King over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end to his Kingdom.”

cataway said:

so many holes in your logic .. the most high God does not give himself the thrown . he all ready has it . it is to his son that he gives authority to rule.
Luke 1:32-32
This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father, 33 and he will rule as King over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end to his Kingdom.”

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First, thanks for the reply, second, as the diversity of himself he can, this is the mystery you have no knowledge of. understand there is no one sitting next to anyone, let us educate you, listen, Revelation 3:21 "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."
did you see it, now listen to one more scripture, John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

see, you never knew that, did you? it's not sitting on a throne next to anyone. now search out what sit "in" the throne means... (smile)...

now, to certify what I said, you stated this, "the most high God does not give himself the thrown". ok, lets see, question, who is sitting on the throne in Revelation chapter 4 & 5? is it the son or the father? let make it clear for you, Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.". well someone was sitting on the throne correct.... now this, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."
Revelation 5:7 "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."

now cataway, tell us who was sitting on the throne? think befire you answer.

PICJAG,
101G.

101G said:

First, thanks for the reply, second, as the diversity of himself he can, this is the mystery you have no knowledge of. understand there is no one sitting next to anyone, let us educate you, listen, Revelation 3:21 "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."
did you see it, now listen to one more scripture, John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

see, you never knew that, did you? it's not sitting on a throne next to anyone. now search out what sit "in" the throne means... (smile)...

now, to certify what I said, you stated this, "the most high God does not give himself the thrown". ok, lets see, question, who is sitting on the throne in Revelation chapter 4 & 5? is it the son or the father? let make it clear for you, Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.". well someone was sitting on the throne correct.... now this, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."
Revelation 5:7 "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."

now cataway, tell us who was sitting on the throne? think befire you answer.

PICJAG,
101G.

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Rev 4:9 Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanksgiving to the One seated on the throne, the One who lives forever and ever, 10 the 24 elders fall down before the One seated on the throne and worship the One who lives forever and ever, and they cast their crowns before the throne, saying: 11 “You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.”

you should really stay out of the book of Revelation, well at least until a JW can sit down with you to study it , should only take 6-8 weeks

101G said:

First, thanks for the reply, second, as the diversity of himself he can, this is the mystery you have no knowledge of. understand there is no one sitting next to anyone, let us educate you, listen, Revelation 3:21 "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."
did you see it, now listen to one more scripture, John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

see, you never knew that, did you? it's not sitting on a throne next to anyone. now search out what sit "in" the throne means... (smile)...

now, to certify what I said, you stated this, "the most high God does not give himself the thrown". ok, lets see, question, who is sitting on the throne in Revelation chapter 4 & 5? is it the son or the father? let make it clear for you, Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.". well someone was sitting on the throne correct.... now this, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."
Revelation 5:7 "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."

now cataway, tell us who was sitting on the throne? think befire you answer.

PICJAG,
101G.

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The problem is your trying to describe the 'Source' some call God from an ancient limited worldview and Hebrew/Roman culture of over 2000 years ago. They viewed God and anthropomorphic King in the sky. This doe not work.

cataway said:

Rev 4:9 Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanksgiving to the One seated on the throne, the One who lives forever and ever, 10 the 24 elders fall down before the One seated on the throne and worship the One who lives forever and ever, and they cast their crowns before the throne, saying: 11 “You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.”

you should really stay out of the book of Revelation, well at least until a JW can sit down with you to study it , should only take 6-8 weeks

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first thanks for the reply, and second, what is a JW going to do? manybe if you can get one to answer my question, and see if he or she stumble or not.

it's just a simple little question, easy to answer.

PICJAG.
101G.

shunyadragon said:

The problem is your trying to describe the 'Source' some call God from an ancient limited worldview and Hebrew/Roman culture of over 2000 years ago. They viewed God and anthropomorphic King in the sky. This doe not work.

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thanks for the reply, second, maybe, but would like to take a shot at the revelation question, as to who is sitting on the throne?

PICJAG,
101G.

101G said:

thanks for the reply, second, maybe, but would like to take a shot at the revelation question, as to who is sitting on the throne?

PICJAG,
101G.

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The Book of Revelation is a dream or vision, and could hardly be considered in any literal context. The Best interpretation is it is symbolic of the corruption and evil of Rome in opposition to Christianity. A very stark contrast between good and evil. Probably the concept of a man God on a throne is an ancient worldview of what the nature of God is or are. God needs no throne.

There is the concept of 'Jesus Crist seated on the Righthand of God the Father,' but again that is an ancient anthropomorphic view of God, actually Gods.

shunyadragon said:

The Book of Revelation is a dream or vision, and could hardly be considered in any literal context. The Best interpretation is it is symbolic of the corruption and evil of Rome in opposition to Christianity. A very stark contrast between good and evil. Probably the concept of a man God on a throne is an ancient worldview of what the nature of God is or are. God needs no throne.

There is the concept of 'Jesus Crist seated on the Righthand of God the Father,' but again that is an ancient anthropomorphic view of God, actually Gods.

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thanks for the reply, agreed it is symbolic, because it was signified, and it means, the meaning or idea expressed by a sign, as distinct from the physical form in which it is expressed. so it's literal in every aspect. and visions are true.

but the book itself is revealing of what has happen, is , at the time of the revelation, and what is to come. so it, a reveling of.... Revelation 1:19 "Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;" there it is, past, present, and future.

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