Clear said : “While the Jews may have committed many categories of sins than three, the “three cardinal sins” you alluded to were certainly evil enough to justify God having taken the Jews original religion from them.”
Rosends responded : “Again, this is your opinion. “
History is more than simply opinion, it is at least partly, based on data.
You provided a link in post #213, describing Sins the Jews were guilty of :
What’s the truth about….the Cause of the Destruction of the Beit Hamikdash? - Jewish Action
The link YOU provided in post #213 described the many sins Jews themselves were guilty of which resulted in their losses.
THE MULTIPLE TYPES OF SINS THE JEWS COMMITTED FOR WHICH THEY WERE PUNISHED
Your link described a misconception that the destruction of Temple as solely” to gratuitous hatred” (the “baseless hatred you alluded to) among Jews.
Your link identified additional sins which were the cause of their national tragedy.
This Jewish list of additional sins included the three cardinal sins which were :
The Jews abandoned original religion and turned to man made religion and worshipped idols
The Jews engaged in prohibited sexual relations which, as another Jewish site points out included rape of women (though this could be homosexual rape as well, but the Jewish website didn’t specify what type of rape the Jews committed);
In fact, the Jews committed sexual immorality to the extent where “they were not ashamed of one another” as your link pointed out.
The Jews committed murder.
Your link described additional sins Jewish literature indicates Jews were guilty of including :
The Jews neglecting the agricultural sabbatical year,
The Jews engaged in “love of money and each one hates his neighbor”
Their Judges rnot rendering appropriate judgments.
The Jewish literature gives specific examples of Cardinal sins such as one Priest fighting with another for the right to work on the Holy Altar. “Rampant Idolatry” rather than isolated idolatry.
The Jews were guilty of the desecration of the Sabbath in the temple.
The Jews were guilty of the neglect of reading the Shema.
The Jews were guilty of neglecting the education of children.
The Jews were guilty of the equalization of small and great.
The Jews were guilty of the neglect of Torah study.
The Jews were guilty of the actual abandonment of Torah.
The Jews were guilty of the neglect of recitation of birchat Ha Torah.
The Jews were guilty of “wasting” time and relying on “vanities and nothingness”.
The Jews were guilty of the type of elitism where they treated others who did not exactly conform to the beliefs as “heretics”
The Jews were guilty of gossip.
These are examples of the types of and the multitude of sins which the Jews, on the link you gave me say they were guilty of as described in Jewish literature.
HISTORICAL LITERATURE CONFIRMS THE JEWISH LITERATURE
These reasons (and more reasons) for God punishing Israel with loss of the temple, loss of a fully functioning priesthood; loss of revelation; loss of prophets and prophetic gifts and accompanying losses are described in other historical literature as well.
We can compare the Jewish records with historical records and the historical predictions parallel the Jewish records with unsettling similarity.
For examples :
Levi, taught his sons about the terrible sins their descendants would commit.
“And now, my children, I know from the writings of Enoch that in the end-time you will act impiously against the Lord, setting your hands to every evil deed; because of you, your brothers will be humiliated and among all the nations you shall become the occasion for scorn. For your father, Israel, is pure with respect to all the impieties of the chief priests, [who laid their hands on the Savior of the world,] as heaven is pure above the earth; and you should be the lights of Israel as the sun and the moon.
For what will all the nations do if you become darkened with impiety? You will bring down a curse on our nation, because you want to destroy the light of the Law which was granted to you for the enlightenment of every man, teaching commandments which are opposed to God’s just ordinances.
You plunder the Lord’s offerings; from his share you steal choice parts, contemptuously eating them with whores. You teach the Lord’s commands out of greed for gain; married women you profane; you have intercourse with whores and adulteresses. You take gentile women for your wives and your sexual relations will become like Sodom and Gomorrah.
You will be inflated with pride over your priesthood, exalting yourselves not merely by human standards but contrary to the commands of God. With contempt and laughter you will deride the sacred things. Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs- Levi 14:1-8;
“Now I have come to know that for seventy weeks you shall wander astray and profane the priesthood and defile the sacrificial altars. You shall set aside the law and nullify the words of the prophets by your wicked perversity.
You persecute just men: and you hate the pious; the word of the faithful you regard with revulsion. A man who by the power of the Most High renews the Law you name ‘Deceiver,’ and finally you shall plot to kill him, not discerning his eminence; by your wickedness you shall take innocent blood on your heads…Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs- Levi 16:1-3;
“1 And when the times of exposure come near and punishment arises through kings who (though) sharing their crimes yet punish them, 2 then they themselves will be divided as to the truth. 3 Consequently the word was fulfilled that they will avoid justice and approach iniquity; and they will pollute the house of their worship with the customs of the nations; and they will play the harlot after foreign gods. For they will not follow the truth of God, but certain of them will pollute the high altar by … the offerings which they place before the Lord.
They are not (truly priests (at all), but slaves, yea sons of slaves. 5 For those who are the leaders, their teachers, in those times will become admirers of avaricious persons, accepting (polluted) offerings, and they will sell justice by accepting bribes. 6 Therefore their city and the full extent of their dwelling places will be filled with crimes and iniquities. For they will have in their midst judges who will act with impiety toward the Lord and will judge just as they please.....ch 6 2 They will perform great impiety in the Holy of Holies... Testament of Moses 5:1-6 and p 930 6:2
“And this testimony will be heard as a testimony against them, for they will forget all of my commandments, everything which I shall command them, and they will walk after the gentiles and after their defilement and shame.
And they will serve their gods, and they will become a scandal for them and an affliction and a torment and a share. And many will be destroyed and seized and will fall into the hand of the enemy because they have forsaken my ordinances and my commandments and the feasts of my covenant and my Sabbaths and my sacred place, which I sanctified for myself among them, and my tabernacle and my sanctuary, which I sanctified from myself in the midst of the land so that I might set my name upon it and might dwell (there).” Jubilees 1:9-10;
The admission of the Jews themselves in their own historical records as well as other historical records describing the Sins of the Jews which resulting in the disastrous loss of characteristics of ancient religion are more than opinion.
There is an fair amount of history documenting the Jews loss of their temples, loss of their prophets, loss of their revelatory gifts, loss of their ability to create scripture, loss of their priesthood functions, etc in the Judaism that characterizes the modern rabbinic Jewish movement.
It is in the context of history that the prophet Ezra said : “Hear these words, O Israel. At first our fathers dwelt as aliens in Egypt and they were delivered from there, and received the Law of life, which they did not keep, which you also have transgressed after them. then land was given to you for a possession in the land of Zion; but you and your fathers committed iniquity and did not keep the ways which the Most High commanded you. And because he is a righteous judge, in due time he took from you what he had given. “ Fourth Book of Ezra 14:28-32….
The sins the Jews committed are not merely my opinion and the results of their sins and removal of many of their blessings because of those sins is not "completely unfounded."
I will get to some of your other relevant points later
Clear
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