It's hard for some people to imagine there are people who don't believe god exist, but one day hopefully they get it. I don't feel it's that hard to get anymore than knowing theism describes those who believe god exists. They're on two sides of a coin. What atheist say is irrelevant to those definitions.
I read a lot of posts where Atheists claim Atheism is:
1. Not a religion
2. Not opposing to any Religion,
3. Simply not believing that there is a Creator.
4. Atheism has moral values.
5. Atheism never committed the atrocities Religion did.
I then went and thought about their claims, and found, from my point of view that the atheist:
Either are-
Scared that someone finds them too light in substance, about their claims,
Or-
They are scared that they are proven wrong, and the possibility that God really does exist.
I don't understand how these claims mean a person is scared.
1. Atheisms/theism aren't religions they just describe who believes in god and who does not
2. This has nothing to do with atheism just some individual atheists have issues with religion and others do not
3. No. We simply do not believe deities exist. Christians don't have a monopoly on the word god
4. No. Atheism/theism doesn't have moral values. Many atheists/theists do though.
5. Atheists haven't committed atrocities in the name of disbelief in god. To be fair, theists did not commit atrocities in the name of god. SOME theists have, but belief/disbelief in god's existence is irrelevant in people's motives to kill others.
If Atheism was not a religion, why would Atheists continuously preach to the Christian that the Christian is wrong in their belief? I think there is only one reason, they want to gain fellow Atheists.
You're mixing the two. The definition of atheism/theism does not constitute any practice, tradition, prayer system, and the like.
Some atheists do. That has nothing to do with the definition of the word, though.
The last sentence made laugh. Atheists/theists don't want to gain fellow followers. What's really the purpose? There's no dogma. No set of values in the definition of atheism. To be fair, its the same for theism. Someone who believes deities exist/theists don't want to gain followers just because he believes god exists. It's really just a statement of one's belief. What individual theists/atheists do are irrelevant.
If they claim that they are not opposing any religion( because you can not oppose something that does not exist), why do they:
Tell the Christian that their God is the same as “Fairies at the end of the garden”, or “Santa” and so on? Why do they take soooo much effort to try to show contradictions, absurdities, and errors in the Bible, if these so called errors were debunked over hundreds of years, but is continuously dug up to the unsuspected listener? Why would the Atheist attempt to place the belief in Jesus’ salvation in the same category as Islamic terrorism, Catholic Crusades, Jonestown and Wayco? Is this not deceptive?
Actually, I don't know why individual atheists (people) say these things anymore than I don't know why christian theists say we are ignorant, rejecting, have issues, scared of them, whatever. Though most atheists would careless if christians would not devalue them for not believing in their god.
Maybe christians are scared god does not exist and need the majority to believe he does in order to feel validated. I don't know. Just a thought.
I think you're spending too much time talking and observing what some atheists say. The rest of us just simply don't care about your specific god.
Why would Atheists somehow claim that there is no place for God in the Universe, because of what science today knows, when the exact opposite is true that what was written in the Bible 4000 years ago, actually assisted science to understand how the Universe came into existence?
The bible does not prove god exist. It just says it does. I can say I can fly, that doesn't mean gravity adopts itself to my claim.
The bible has nothing to do with the science of how the universe theoretically involved. I haven't read a word in the bible that even address such a thing. "God created the heavens and the earth" statement means nothing. If it were as simple as that, we would have figure out things long time ago just by taking up everything we read in the bible as fact. That would be a weird world and majority of non-believers would probably be dead if the bible were true and people followed it to the T.
Can you prove there is a creator without the bible's claims?
Why does the Atheist claim that there is no God, and uses observable science to claim no Creator, when all they are doing is observing the created object, hoping to see the creator in it?
Can you list some concrete examples?
No. It's not foolish to say a god exists. It's what we do with these beliefs is the key not the claim itself.
Why would the Atheist demand that they have some moral code in their conscience, and there is no need for the Judeo-Christian values, or that if there was never any religion, Man would still have been a moral being; when the opposite is true, and their claim a lie?
Christianity is not special here. Why would christian theists (not all theists) claim they are the only ones that have claims to what god is and what moral codes should be?
For example, whilst it is true that many atrocities were committed in the Name of God, it is untrue that such offences were instructed by the Moral code of Jesus, and those offenders will be held accountable for their deeds! However, when we find in the 19th century where the Christian religion was removed in mainly “Communist countries”, it was the brainchild of the Atheist, and the breeding ground of Atheism, and the monument to Atheism which accounted for more than 100 million deaths! It was in this utopia of a Godless political carnival where Atheists were able to murder, torture, exile, and enslave anyone who were against the state, and the religion in Jesus was the worst offence to be punished.
Disbelief in deities existence accounted for over a 100 million deaths! Can you give an example of this?
Christians killed people in the name of their religion for political reasons. The only thing I can think of that some atheists back them would influence is things like skepticism, philosophy, and questioning christian beliefs on the nature of the universe-but then again, there are christian scientists too.
I have no clue where you got this.
Well, in my opinion, it seems as if the Atheist is scared of the salvation of Jesus, and needs to influence as many others they can. I find the Atheist to be on his heels, ready to attack if he should just catch a “whimph” of criticism against his Religion.
I have no clue how on earth can that be. I know you want to justify why people don't believe in god by blaming some atheists for their statements, but it's totally ludicrous.
I'm still scratching my head, though, about this. Half of us atheist can care less about your god.
What do you as a non-Atheist think, Do you also find that Atheists are scared of the Gospel in Jesus Christ?
No. As someone who does not believe deities exist, I just don't care. The only time I think of the word jesus christ is if I'm discussing the topic on RF. I don't believe theists, or people who do believe in deities, are scared of people who don't believe in deities. Some may be threatened by them, but not as a whole and definitely not because they belief in deities and vis versa.
Jesus christ is irrelevant in this atheism/theism debate. It has nothing to do with christianity.
