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Question about the socalled "path"

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Because, IMO, as imperfect people, we can’t rely on ourselves.

(That’s why there are so many different paths! And oftentimes, these paths disagree!)

Proverbs 3:5-6 states,”....do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways take notice of Him, and He Himself will set your paths straight.”)

The Great Congregator — King Solomon — put it even more bluntly at Ecclesiastes 12:13....”The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard, is: Fear the True God, and keep His commandments. For this is the whole obligation for man.

(If Yahweh / Jehovah is our Creator, and as such, our Father, then His way for us would be the most beneficial way to live. And what does the evidence show?That, as peoples’ lifestyles drift further and further away from the Bible’s sound counsel (on sex and other issues), there are more and more dysfunctional individuals and families to be observed in this selfish world than ever before! People are hurting themselves.)

That’s how I see it.

Take care, my friend.
I noticed one thing in your reply more than other things :) When you say people drift more and more away from God. I was thinking about the exact thing this morning (except the wording i used was of people drifing away from Allah) human kind has become "slaves to the markeding industry instead of servant of God. People today are more into buying more and more new gadgets, instead of study the word of God. and that is a bit worrying
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
I noticed one thing in your reply more than other things :) When you say people drift more and more away from God. I was thinking about the exact thing this morning (except the wording i used was of people drifing away from Allah) human kind has become "slaves to the markeding industry instead of servant of God. People today are more into buying more and more new gadgets, instead of study the word of God. and that is a bit worrying
Yes, exactly! This entire world, is designed - and I do mean ‘designed’ - in some way or another, to keep people too distracted, or too busy, to search for our Creator!

As one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, I see the very real truth behind 1 John 5:19 and Revelation 12:9! 2 Corinthians 4:4 calls the Devil, “the god of this world”!

Like someone is always working against us! Not just those searching for God, but also those searching for peace...
Doesn’t every sane person want peace earthwide? And most world leaders, right? But it always seems to be “out of reach”...

We (JW’s) look forward to the fulfillment of Ephesians 1:10, 1 John 3:8 & Hebrews 2:14.

No more confusion & distraction!

Later, cousin!
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
The journey within is long and tough .. it takes decades to complete. Most don't ever complete it.
I do agree with you on this.
Every day is a new experience and something new arise from within, it may be a new understanding of wisdom, or a new understanding of what need to be done personally to take the next step toward the understanding of struggle in life.

A personal journey is not about finding fault in others, but correcting once own fault so to be able to realize deeper and deeper wisdom about who we truly are :)
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Kindly note: I have edited and added something to my post. That may perhaps induce you to take away a 'winner' reputation from me. :D
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Kindly note: I have edited and added something to my post. That may perhaps induce you to take away a 'winner' reputation from me. :D
I will let the winner frube stand. You are correct in many ways in what you say, there is many people who do get entangled in the God and messenger idea and only rely on Gods ability to save humans. but they forget to understand it is the human being them self who have to get rid of their "wrongdoing and immorallity"

And of course you are free to have your understanding or opinion about God or messengers
 

Marcion

gopa of humanity's controversial Taraka Brahma
It's called a path because relatively speaking you do move towards liberation inside the relative world with its time, place and person.

Once you come to the end of the path, time, place and person cease to exist for you, but before it the limited or bound you is not yet able to fully realize that state of infinitely blissful oneness.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
For many years i been reading different religious scriptures (no expert on them) But one thing i notice is that it is often spoken about "spiritual path" and i been thinking about this "path" and where it actually leads.

the answers i had over years have changed depending on what i have picked up or understood from what other people have written,

But every time, the answer that come back to me is "the path always lead back to your own being"
The "goal" is not far away in front of you... or is it?
The answers is not far away in the future.... or is it?
Right where you are now. that is where you will be when you realize the truth. You travel in time in your life, you age, and become older. but the answer you looking for will never be in front of you or behind you. the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within :confused:
The Mahabharata says something like fate is a liar... we come all this way and then were just like we were in the beginning.
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
For many years i been reading different religious scriptures (no expert on them) But one thing i notice is that it is often spoken about "spiritual path" and i been thinking about this "path" and where it actually leads.

the answers i had over years have changed depending on what i have picked up or understood from what other people have written,

But every time, the answer that come back to me is "the path always lead back to your own being"
The "goal" is not far away in front of you... or is it?
The answers is not far away in the future.... or is it?
Right where you are now. that is where you will be when you realize the truth. You travel in time in your life, you age, and become older. but the answer you looking for will never be in front of you or behind you. the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within :confused:


Reminded me of this book I never found, apparently called: “Life is not a journey - And google is not the answer.” If it does not exist, someone ought to write it! :smile:

Humbly
Hermit
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
For many years i been reading different religious scriptures (no expert on them) But one thing i notice is that it is often spoken about "spiritual path" and i been thinking about this "path" and where it actually leads.

the answers i had over years have changed depending on what i have picked up or understood from what other people have written,

But every time, the answer that come back to me is "the path always lead back to your own being"
The "goal" is not far away in front of you... or is it?
The answers is not far away in the future.... or is it?
Right where you are now. that is where you will be when you realize the truth. You travel in time in your life, you age, and become older. but the answer you looking for will never be in front of you or behind you. the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within :confused:
Because there is a beginning and an end to the spiritual journey, it is one thing to know that the potential for God to be fully realized is within you, it is another thing altogether to actually realize it. Many of the wiser souls have begun that journey, but few have completed it.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It is the realization that is difficult :) There is so many aspects of God in that realization that it truly do take time.
I beleive i only touched it, and can not yet understand
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
For many years i been reading different religious scriptures (no expert on them) But one thing i notice is that it is often spoken about "spiritual path" and i been thinking about this "path" and where it actually leads.

the answers i had over years have changed depending on what i have picked up or understood from what other people have written,

But every time, the answer that come back to me is "the path always lead back to your own being"
The "goal" is not far away in front of you... or is it?
The answers is not far away in the future.... or is it?
Right where you are now. that is where you will be when you realize the truth. You travel in time in your life, you age, and become older. but the answer you looking for will never be in front of you or behind you. the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within :confused:

My life's motto is: "The destination isn't the important part. It's the journey towards it."
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
It is the realization that is difficult :) There is so many aspects of God in that realization that it truly do take time.
I beleive i only touched it, and can not yet understand
I think this Sufi saying explains it well....the self dentification with the material body needs to be transitioned to the Spirit - God.

I contemplated God so persistently,
I finally became God.
Little by little, God drew nearer,
Slowly but slowly I passed away.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
For many years i been reading different religious scriptures (no expert on them) But one thing i notice is that it is often spoken about "spiritual path" and i been thinking about this "path" and where it actually leads.

the answers i had over years have changed depending on what i have picked up or understood from what other people have written,

But every time, the answer that come back to me is "the path always lead back to your own being"
The "goal" is not far away in front of you... or is it?
The answers is not far away in the future.... or is it?
Right where you are now. that is where you will be when you realize the truth. You travel in time in your life, you age, and become older. but the answer you looking for will never be in front of you or behind you. the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within :confused:

Well, for a while, try to leave all your baggage, and take a purely scriptural path. Just try it. Maybe try to think as an atheist and analyse your scripture. Thats one approach. Try and see.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
For many years i been reading different religious scriptures (no expert on them) But one thing i notice is that it is often spoken about "spiritual path" and i been thinking about this "path" and where it actually leads.

the answers i had over years have changed depending on what i have picked up or understood from what other people have written,

But every time, the answer that come back to me is "the path always lead back to your own being"
The "goal" is not far away in front of you... or is it?
The answers is not far away in the future.... or is it?
Right where you are now. that is where you will be when you realize the truth. You travel in time in your life, you age, and become older. but the answer you looking for will never be in front of you or behind you. the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within :confused:

Moral compass.

There are two types of compasses. One points to magnetic north. The other has a point and a pencil and it draws a circle. It is said that a compass is a good tool for survival. But, when we realize that our path "always lead back to your own being" it is time to evaluate which of the two compasses you have.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Moral compass.

There are two types of compasses. One points to magnetic north. The other has a point and a pencil and it draws a circle. It is said that a compass is a good tool for survival. But, when we realize that our path "always lead back to your own being" it is time to evaluate which of the two compasses you have.
The reason i said the path always lead back to our self is because without understanding our own being, and our own ego we can not walk a spiritual path very well. The less of Me, I, Mine, that is within our being the more we can understand the spiritual teaching.
The physical existance is only there for us to be able to realize what we are not :) (in my understanding this is)
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
As I see it it goes both ways. We know God internally and externally. We couldn't have one without the other. So I guess it's more like a dual carriageway.

Green-light-for-new-section-of-dual-carriageway-on-A303-Stonehenge.jpg

No one is going to get anywhere if there is a head-on collision. Someone should tell those people they're driving on the wrong side of the freeway. ;)
 

idea

Question Everything
When it happens to me, it's usually because I'm distracted by my own desires and expectations.
But once I become aware again of the insignificance of my own person and accept that, the thick bush can turn into an escalator.

Living without desire one sees clearly. I think the Buddhists are onto something.

Through feeling connected to all, no one and nothing is insignificant - or perhaps it's all insignificant. Come what may, it's always changing. Cling to the rocks, or float with the river - you can see more through letting go.
 
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