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How can a Jew reject Jesus as the Messiah?

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
The text calls Moses god. Remember, there aren't any uppercase or lowercase letters in Hebrew.

Psalm 82:6 says I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

God puts leaders in positions of leadership where they are considered gods by the people but that doesn't mean that that attitude is right.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Psalm 82:6 says I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

God puts leaders in positions of leadership where they are considered gods by the people but that doesn't mean that that attitude is right.
I see. So when you're comfortable with this interpretation of the word god, you'll use this, but when it doesn't fit with your understanding of the messiah, you won't use it. Gotcha.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
I see. So when you're comfortable with this interpretation of the word god, you'll use this, but when it doesn't fit with your understanding of the messiah, you won't use it. Gotcha.

The context of Psalm 82:6 is not about putting people and God on the same level. To understand any verse of the Bible the full context matters. What does the Bible mean by “you are gods” / "ye are gods" in Psalm 82:6 and John 10:34? | GotQuestions.org

The whole point of Psalm 82 is that earthly judges must act with impartiality and true justice, because even judges must stand someday before the Judge. Verses 6 and 7 warn human magistrates that they, too, must be judged: “I said, `You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.' But you will die like mere men; you will fall like every other ruler.” This passage is saying that God has appointed men to positions of authority in which they are considered as gods among the people. They are to remember that, even though they are representing God in this world, they are mortal and must eventually give an account to God for how they used that authority.
 

james dixon

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Premium Member
Moses was not God. He was a human being who made mistakes like everyone else.
Murder is not a mistake, it is a violation of the law,
The Pharaoh recognized this and sought to punish Moses for the murder.
I would not call this as a "mistake"
:)-

 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Murder is not a mistake, it is a violation of the law,
The Pharaoh recognized this and sought to punish Moses for the murder.
I would not call this as a "mistake"
:)-

Moses was a criminal. He was not God. There is no verse in the Bible that puts Moses and God on the same level. The term the mighty God in Isaiah 9:6 shows that the Messiah is God.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Evidence?

Where does the Hebrew version of Psalm 82:6 say anything other than God appointing people into positions of authority where they are considered gods among the people? The Hebrew version of Psalm 82 6 doesn't support anything other than the mighty God in Isaiah 9:6 is the Messiah.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Where does the Hebrew version of Psalm 82:6 say anything other than God appointing people into positions of authority where they are considered gods among the people? The Hebrew version of Psalm 82 6 doesn't support anything other than the mighty God in Isaiah 9:6 is the Messiah.
I think I've mentioned this to you in the past. Merely differentiating between capitalized and uncapitalized words is not evidence in Hebrew, because that concept does not exist in Hebrew.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
I think I've mentioned this to you in the past. Merely differentiating between capitalized and uncapitalized words is not evidence in Hebrew, because that concept does not exist in Hebrew.

The one true God is the uppercase of God. Lowercase God is idols that people make for themselves. Isaiah 9:6 uses the term mighty God, showing that the Messiah is God.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
The one true God is the uppercase of God. Lowercase God is idols that people make for themselves. Isaiah 9:6 uses the term mighty God, showing that the Messiah is God.
So Moses and the people in Psalms are idols? Gotcha.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
So Moses and the people in Psalms are idols? Gotcha.

Psalm 82:6 saying I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High, is talking about while leaders are considered gods by the people, they are still under God's control. This doesn't change that Isaiah 9:6 calling the Messiah mighty God is a reference to the Messiah being God.
 
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