Does this Quran verse actually say to Muhammad and muslims

Shakeel · Mar 28, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
Yes. Forcing someone lead to false belief and that is not good practice

You're still talking about that, but can you show a person who was forced to believe? You keep criticising vague groups of people for doing things you deem wrong and you can't even state clearly what those things are, let alone who has done such a thing.

firedragon · Mar 28, 2021

Shakeel said:
Whatever as in "I don't care what I said"?

Alright.

So what are you saying. Let me see if I can respond better. Articulate your point clearly. Since you are not interested in communicating in a new thread I opened, that's fine, do it here. Anyway this thread has derailed wildly.

So what is your whole point? Please explain.

Spirit of Light · Mar 28, 2021

Shakeel said:
You're still talking about that, but can you show a person who was forced to believe? You keep criticising vague groups of people for doing things you deem wrong and you can't even state clearly what those things are, let alone who has done such a thing.

Look at all the ISIS members who force non muslims to "convert"
Those guys say they know and understand the Quran. But what they do, say and think is pure evil. The islam i know is not an evil path.

firedragon · Mar 28, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
Look at all the ISIS members who force non muslims to "convert"
Those guys say they know and understand the Quran. But what they do, say and think is pure evil. The islam i know is not an evil path.

you know Im a bit curious.

Do you have any documentation on who was forced to convert? How many? Are the numbers more than those in forced conversion in China?

Just curious to know what you know.

Pastek · Mar 28, 2021

firedragon said:
you know Im a bit curious.

Do you have any documentation on who was forced to convert? How many? Are the numbers more than those in forced conversion in China?

Just curious to know what you know.

I don't know that much about it, but i'm reading a book about a Yazidi who said she, her family and other Yazidis were forced to convert (or they'd be executed).
It's this book "The last girl" by Nadia Murad : https://www.amazon.com/Last-Girl-Ca...=1&keywords=nadia+murad&qid=1616948057&sr=8-1

I think Amal Clooney was her lawyer so they can bring those people (daesh) to trial.

Spirit of Light · Mar 28, 2021

firedragon said:
you know Im a bit curious.

Do you have any documentation on who was forced to convert? How many? Are the numbers more than those in forced conversion in China?

Just curious to know what you know.

I do not have any numbers

I do not have contact in those groups

But if you watch media there has been more then one time live broadcast of people getting killed by ISIS if they do not convert. I do admite that it is some time ago i last heard of it in the media.

firedragon · Mar 28, 2021

Pastek said:
I don't know that much about it, but i'm reading a book about a Yazidi who said she, her family and other Yazidis were forced to convert (or they'd be executed).
It's this book "The last girl" by Nadia Murad : https://www.amazon.com/Last-Girl-Ca...=1&keywords=nadia+murad&qid=1616948057&sr=8-1

I think Amal Clooney was her lawyer so they can bring those people (daesh) to trial.

I am pretty sure its true.

firedragon · Mar 28, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
I do not have any numbers I do not have contact in those groups
But if you watch media there has been more then one time live broadcast of people getting killed by ISIS if they do not convert. I do admite that it is some time ago i last heard of it in the media.

Exactly. You nailed it. Its the media.

Dais is no good. But its happening en masse in China. Much bigger numbers. That doesnt mean you are wrong brother. You are right.

Does this Quran verse actually say to Muhammad and muslims

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