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How can a Jew reject Jesus as the Messiah?

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
I believe that following the teachings of Jesus are not convenient for our human nature and people want to suppress beliefs that they secretly agree with.
So you are unable to provide evidence for your claim, which is a seemingly historical claim. I would expect such a claim to have some evidence.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
The Jewish liturgy is not like the Christian one. In the Christian one they read the 'OT' and the 'NT' in a year side by side. The whole Tanakh is not utilised like this in Jewish worship. There are set portions that are read.

Why is Isaiah 53 skipped in ways that other chapters aren't? How Do Orthodox Jews Read Isaiah 53? - BJU Seminary

We usually think of Isaiah 53 as a unit; from a structural and literary standpoint, however, the passage actually runs from 52:13 to 53:12. Here’s why that’s significant. Every year around September one of the scheduled Sabbath readings is Isaiah 51:12-52:12. Notice where this reading stops? What do you suppose the following Sabbath haftarah reading is? Isaiah 54:1-10. That still might seem like mere coincidence, except for the fact that within a seven-week period, the Sabbath haftarah readings cover Isaiah 49, 50, 51, 52 (up to 52:12), 54, 55, and 56. It’s hard to escape the impression that Isaiah 53 has been surgically removed from circulation in terms of any regular, public, Jewish exposure to it. You cannot see what you will not look at.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
That doesn't mean they're not Christians.

Being a secular Christian doesn't involve following the difficult teachings of Jesus therefore you can't quote numbers of people who believe in Jesus to say that following the teachings of Jesus is not inconvenient.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Being a secular Christian doesn't involve following the difficult teachings of Jesus therefore you can't quote numbers of people who believe in Jesus to say that following the teachings of Jesus is not inconvenient.
So do you have all your stuff in common with other folks?

Have you given it all to the poor?

Do you love Jesus more than your parents?

Are you an itinerant?

Have you ever lusted or hated?
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
So do you have all your stuff in common with other folks?

Have you given it all to the poor?

Do you love Jesus more than your parents?

Are you an itinerant?

Have you ever lusted or hated?

Many people who believe in Jesus don't really follow his teachings.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
I try to not use foul language or listen to unhealthy music.
That's great but Jesus told you to give all you have to the poor. The earliest Christians had everything in common; they owned nothing. They travelled from place to place preaching. Jesus had no home and neither had his disciples.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
That's great but Jesus told you to give all you have to the poor. The earliest Christians had everything in common; they owned nothing. They travelled from place to place preaching. Jesus had no home and neither had his disciples.

I believe that a lot of the things that people spend money on are vanity.
 
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