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Which "afterlife" stories makes the most sense?

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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I'm curious:

Which one(s) do you think makes most sense?
They don't have to be 100% true to ponder the question
Included interesting reads on your own time

Afterlife (Afterlife (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Reincarnation (Study of Reincarnation Archives | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Near death experiences (Near-Death Experiences - Academic Publications | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Spirit and humans in the "same dimension" (Spiritualist belief) I couldn't find anything on this but the gist is the our spirits (some sources call them energies) who exist after death and interact with our living loved ones.

These are missing a couple other views, but the concept is the same in separation between body and soul (or so have you).

Enjoy
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Unveiled Artist said:
I'm curious:

Which one(s) do you think makes most sense?
They don't have to be 100% true to ponder the question
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I have a definite preference for the Baha'i afterlife, not only because I am a Baha'i but also because I think it is super cool. :cool:
I am not so sure I will measure up, but at least I believe it is fair for all people.

 
Regiomontanus

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
Unveiled Artist said:
I'm curious:

Which one(s) do you think makes most sense?
They don't have to be 100% true to ponder the question
Included interesting reads on your own time

Afterlife (Afterlife (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Reincarnation (Study of Reincarnation Archives | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Near death experiences (Near-Death Experiences - Academic Publications | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Spirit and humans in the "same dimension" (Spiritualist belief) I couldn't find anything on this but the gist is the our spirits (some sources call them energies) who exist after death and interact with our living loved ones.

These are missing a couple other views, but the concept is the same in separation between body and soul (or so have you).

Enjoy
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For Christians it is about the general resurrection of the dead, the "life after life after death" (N.T. Wright). Of course many (especially evangelical Protestants) think like Plato - that your soul zooms off to heaven when you die - but that is not what was traditionally taught.

As to what it will be like...Scripture is not very clear (for example, I find Paul hard to understand much of the time).
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Regiomontanus said:
For Christians it is about the general resurrection of the dead, the "life after life after death" (N.T. Wright). Of course many (especially evangelical Protestants) think like Plato - that your soul zooms off to heaven when you die - but that is not what was traditionally taught.

As to what it will be like...Scripture is not very clear (for example, I find Paul hard to understand much of the time).
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Speaking about the Christian resurrection belief and how it is not very clear, I just wrote this up for another thread so I will post it here.

What Paul wrote below is right on the money. I picked the most pertinent verses from the chapter because that helps to see it clearer. Our physical bodies will die and we will be raised as spiritual bodies. What that means is that our soul will leave our body and God will give us a spiritual body. Paul says that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God and that means they cannot exist in heaven. When Paul says these dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever, he is referring to the spiritual world (heaven), which will last forever.

1 Corinthians 15:40-54 New Living Translation

40 There are also bodies in the heavens and bodies on the earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the glory of the earthly bodies.

44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever.

51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!

54 Then, when our dying bodies have been transformed into bodies that will never die,[c] this Scripture will be fulfilled: “Death is swallowed up in victory.[d]

Read full chapter

This is no different from what Baha’is believe even though we do not call it a resurrection.

“The answer to the third question is this, that in the other world the human reality doth not assume a physical form, rather doth it take on a heavenly form, made up of elements of that heavenly realm.” Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, p. 194
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Regiomontanus said:
For Christians it is about the general resurrection of the dead, the "life after life after death" (N.T. Wright). Of course many (especially evangelical Protestants) think like Plato - that your soul zooms off to heaven when you die - but that is not what was traditionally taught.

As to what it will be like...Scripture is not very clear (for example, I find Paul hard to understand much of the time).
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Hmm. Where do you go once resurrected?
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I wonder...spirit and soul, from the first link, seems to be a western concept... The greeks and romans and so forth. How do eastern traditions come to use the word soul or is that a freudian slip in language?

That and does Islam and Jews (and bahai?) define soul the same (and even the word god) If they were not introduced to greek philosophical concepts like God, spirit, and so forth.

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In ancient Western philosophy, Plato affirmed both a pre-natal life of the soul and the soul’s continued life after the death of the body. In Plato’s Phaedo, Socrates presents reasons why a philosopher should even welcome death (albeit not permitting or encouraging suicide), because of its emancipation of the souls of those who are good in this life to a great afterlife. -Afterlife (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Unveiled Artist said:
I'm curious:

Which one(s) do you think makes most sense?
They don't have to be 100% true to ponder the question
Included interesting reads on your own time

Afterlife (Afterlife (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Reincarnation (Study of Reincarnation Archives | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Near death experiences (Near-Death Experiences - Academic Publications | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Spirit and humans in the "same dimension" (Spiritualist belief) I couldn't find anything on this but the gist is the our spirits (some sources call them energies) who exist after death and interact with our living loved ones.

These are missing a couple other views, but the concept is the same in separation between body and soul (or so have you).

Enjoy
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Below is a video I stumbled upon today that I thought was very heartwarming and illuminating.

 
S

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Unveiled Artist said:
I'm curious:

Which one(s) do you think makes most sense?
They don't have to be 100% true to ponder the question
Included interesting reads on your own time

Afterlife (Afterlife (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Reincarnation (Study of Reincarnation Archives | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Near death experiences (Near-Death Experiences - Academic Publications | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Spirit and humans in the "same dimension" (Spiritualist belief) I couldn't find anything on this but the gist is the our spirits (some sources call them energies) who exist after death and interact with our living loved ones.

These are missing a couple other views, but the concept is the same in separation between body and soul (or so have you).

Enjoy
Click to expand...

I don't believe in afterlife stories. Jesus said in John 1:18, No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Unveiled Artist said:
I'm curious:

Which one(s) do you think makes most sense?
They don't have to be 100% true to ponder the question
Included interesting reads on your own time

Afterlife (Afterlife (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Reincarnation (Study of Reincarnation Archives | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Near death experiences (Near-Death Experiences - Academic Publications | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Spirit and humans in the "same dimension" (Spiritualist belief) I couldn't find anything on this but the gist is the our spirits (some sources call them energies) who exist after death and interact with our living loved ones.

These are missing a couple other views, but the concept is the same in separation between body and soul (or so have you).

Enjoy
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No rebirth. Sigh.

I suppose idealogically , dimensional existences could be conceivable in light of macro and micro worlds.

Lately I was thinking about string theory and how atoms could be linked across vast distances by being in two places at once.

I am guessing it could tie in with how the spark of life comes about but it's only an idea.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Twilight Hue said:
No rebirth. Sigh.

I suppose idealogically , dimensional existences could be conceivable in light of macro and micro worlds.
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I do not believe in a rebirth because that implies reincarnation. I would never want to come back to this world.
I believe we just continue to live, but in another world with another kind of body. That other world of existence can be likened to another dimension.
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Unveiled Artist said:
I'm curious:

Which one(s) do you think makes most sense?
They don't have to be 100% true to ponder the question
Included interesting reads on your own time

Afterlife (Afterlife (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Reincarnation (Study of Reincarnation Archives | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Near death experiences (Near-Death Experiences - Academic Publications | Division of Perceptual Studies)
Spirit and humans in the "same dimension" (Spiritualist belief) I couldn't find anything on this but the gist is the our spirits (some sources call them energies) who exist after death and interact with our living loved ones.

These are missing a couple other views, but the concept is the same in separation between body and soul (or so have you).

Enjoy
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This may sound strange for some, but there is truth in them all :) Now this may upset a monotheist to hear that other religious or philosophical "ideas" can have truth to them. But Just because I believe it is a certain way, i can not fully rule out that other has seen a truth and told it in a different way.
 
Heyo

Heyo

Veteran Member
Trailblazer said:
I have a definite preference for the Baha'i afterlife, not only because I am a Baha'i but also because I think it is super cool. :cool:
I am not so sure I will measure up, but at least I believe it is fair for all people.

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No striper factories and beer volcanoes? Count me out.
 
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