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Dao De Jing Chapter 25 ~ As I See It ~ :)

Thea

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Dao De Jing Chapter 25 ~ As I See It ~ :)

1. Something primordial formed 有物混成 yǒu wù hǔnchéng
2. before the sky and the earth were born. 先天地生 xiān tiān dì shēng
3. Silent and still, 寂寥 jì liáo

4. Existing independently and unchanging. 独立而不改 dú lì ér bù gǎi
5. She can be regarded as 可以為 kě yǐ wéi
6. the mother of the world of human relations. 天下母 tiān xià mǔ

7. Not yet knowing her name, 未知其名 wèi zhī qí míng
8. I give her the title ‘Dao’ 字之曰道 zì zhī yuē dào
9. If forced to give a name, 吾强为之名wú qiáng wéi zhī míng

10. I’d say ‘Great’. ‘Great’ says ‘overflowing’, 曰大 大曰逝 yuē dà dà yuē shì*
11. ‘overflowing’ says ‘reaching far away’, 逝曰远 shì yuē yuǎn
12. ‘reaching far away’ says ‘to return’. 远曰反 yuǎn yuē fǎn

13. The sky is great, the earth is great, Dao is great. 天大地大道大Tiāndà dìdà dàodà
14. The king too is great in the realm. There are 王亦大域中有wángyìdàyùzhōngyǒu
15. four greats, the king counts as one of them. 四大安王处一安sìdàānwángchùyīān

16. People live on earth; earth exists inside sky; 人法地地法天 Rén fǎ dì dì fǎ tiān
17. sky exists inside Dao; 天法道 tiān fǎ dào
18. Dao exists independently. 道法自然 dào fǎ zìrán

~~~

Characters from the Hendricks Guodian

* 逝 The Guodian uses another character, which is not on my keyboard.

These character are not in the Guodian:
- 兮 line 3.
- 周行而不殆 between lines 3. and 4.

~~~

Traditional characters: 处 (處), 远(遠), 强(強), 为(為), 独(獨).
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Dao De Jing Chapter 25 ~ As I See It ~ :)

1. Something primordial formed 有物混成 yǒu wù hǔnchéng
2. before the sky and the earth were born. 先天地生 xiān tiān dì shēng
3. Silent and still, 寂寥 jì liáo

4. Existing independently and unchanging. 独立而不改 dú lì ér bù gǎi
5. She can be regarded as 可以為 kě yǐ wéi
6. the mother of the world of human relations. 天下母 tiān xià mǔ

7. Not yet knowing her name, 未知其名 wèi zhī qí míng
8. I give her the title ‘Dao’ 字之曰道 zì zhī yuē dào
9. If forced to give a name, 吾强为之名wú qiáng wéi zhī míng

10. I’d say ‘Great’. ‘Great’ says ‘overflowing’, 曰大 大曰逝 yuē dà dà yuē shì*
11. ‘overflowing’ says ‘reaching far away’, 逝曰远 shì yuē yuǎn
12. ‘reaching far away’ says ‘to return’. 远曰反 yuǎn yuē fǎn

13. The sky is great, the earth is great, Dao is great. 天大地大道大Tiāndà dìdà dàodà
14. The king too is great in the realm. There are 王亦大域中有wángyìdàyùzhōngyǒu
15. four greats, the king counts as one of them. 四大安王处一安sìdàānwángchùyīān

16. People live on earth; earth exists inside sky; 人法地地法天 Rén fǎ dì dì fǎ tiān
17. sky exists inside Dao; 天法道 tiān fǎ dào
18. Dao exists independently. 道法自然 dào fǎ zìrán

~~~

Characters from the Hendricks Guodian

* 逝 The Guodian uses another character, which is not on my keyboard.

These character are not in the Guodian:
- 兮 line 3.
- 周行而不殆 between lines 3. and 4.

~~~

Traditional characters: 处 (處), 远(遠), 强(強), 为(為), 独(獨).
This is my favorite Chapter, although I prefer the Feng and English translation.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
That was the first Dao De Jing translation I ever read and it’s still one of my favourites. :)
Here is the Feng and English translation:

Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 25

Something mysteriously formed,
Born before heaven and earth.
In the silence and the void,
Standing alone and unchanging,
Ever present and in motion.
Perhaps it is the mother of ten thousand things.
I do not know its name.
Call it Tao.
For lack of a better word, I call it great.

Being great, it flows.
It flows far away.
Having gone far, it returns.

Therefore, "Tao is great;
Heaven is great;
Earth is great;
The king is also great."
These are the four great powers of the universe,
And the king is one of them.

Man follows the earth.
Earth follows heaven.
Heaven follows the Tao.
Tao follows what is natural.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I use the characters from the Guodian, the oldest surviving copy of the Dao De Jing. The Guodian does not have “Ever present and in motion” in it.
Ah, that is very interesting.

Do you practice Taoism as your main philosophy?
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
No, I believe in God. In Ch 25, although presented as a female, to me it describes God.
Same here.

"For lack of a better word, I call it [God]"

I am not a Taoist, but Jewish. However, I find a lot of truth and much beauty in philosophical Taoism. I still have my copies of the Tao Te Ching, Chuang Tzu, The Tao of Pooh, and the Te of Piglet. When things begin to spin out of control, the concept of Wu Wei becomes very handy.
 
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Thea

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Definitely, I find lots of ideas in the DDJ can be used by anyone regardless of belief system.
 
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