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Yahcubs777

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lostwanderingsoul said:
I find it interesting that you say "God's power made Mary pregnant". The Bible says she was come upon by the Holy Spirit. So this supports my belief that the Holy Spirit is NOT a third person in a trinity but is really just God's power since God is a spirit and God is holy.
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GOD is the Most Holy Spirit. GOD has HIS Own body. GOD incubated on her womb, just as HE incubated on the face of the deep in Genesis. What I said is that HIS Word is what coupled the body that HE took from her womb. Her bodily systems were not a factor. No egg was needed. The body was coupled by HIS Word. I know this is difficult to understand. Its not that GOD said: And you will bear a son, and then all of a sudden she was pregnant - no. The Blessed Virgin Mary is a Prophetess. And GOD was feeding her with HIS Word, which coupled the body that HE took from her womb. GOD's Word is living and active. You believed that HE called things into existence.
 
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Yahcubs777

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moorea944 said:
So if someone is filled with the HS, the HS jumps inside of that person like someone who is possessed?? Is that what your saying?
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That was actually pointing to the precise moment that GOD sent the Spirit Being of John the Baptist into her womb. Thats why it was noted and recorded. It was revealing the time in a pregnancy when GOD sends the Spirit Being of a child of the kingdom into their biological mothers womb.
 
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Yahcubs777

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filthyrottendirty said:
Jesus is not God, he is God's son.

Luke 22:42
Jesus prayed saying, “Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.”

Jesus asked God to remove the "cup" mission from him because it was too great.

Jesus said he spoke according what the father told him to say, not what he wanted to say.

John 12:49
For I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment—what to say and what to speak.

Jesus already existed with God in Heaven before he came to earth.

John 8:58
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

Colossians 1:15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

Jesus was made directly by God (only begotten son) everything else was made through Jesus.

Jesus currently sits at the right hand of God, not on God's throne.

Romans 8:34
Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us.
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That is Adam, not Jesus His Pre-Eminence. Adam prayed those prayers in the Garden of Eden before he ate the fruit. Father Adam was not deceived 1 Tim 2:14 That is why Jesus His Pre-Eminence did it in a garden. Before Abraham I am, is actually before Adam, I am. Adam is father of many, the principal Ancestor of the Mankind race, and it was his shoes that Abraham portrayed.

Father Adam delivered a Son to GOD. And that Sons name is Enoch that lived forever without dying at all. Father Adam trained Enoch. Thats why Abraham was told to do the same thing but he thought it meant he should kill his son, showing that he wasn't doing well in getting the message.

Father Adam is the Son of GOD Luke 3:38
 
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filthyrottendirty

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Yahcubs777 said:
That is Adam, not Jesus His Pre-Eminence. Adam prayed those prayers in the Garden of Eden before he ate the fruit. Father Adam was not deceived 1 Tim 2:14 That is why Jesus His Pre-Eminence did it in a garden. Before Abraham I am, is actually before Adam, I am. Adam is father of many, the principal Ancestor of the Mankind race, and it was his shoes that Abraham portrayed.

Father Adam delivered a Son to GOD. And that Sons name is Enoch that lived forever without dying at all. Father Adam trained Enoch. Thats why Abraham was told to do the same thing but he thought it meant he should kill his son, showing that he wasn't doing well in getting the message.

Father Adam is the Son of GOD Luke 3:38
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"That is Adam, not Jesus His Pre-Eminence. Adam prayed those prayers in the Garden of Eden before he ate the fruit."

Where in the Bible does it say this scripture is about Adam?

Where is "His Pre-Eminence" mentioned in the Bible?

"Before Abraham I am, is actually before Adam, I am." Source?
 
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lostwanderingsoul

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Yahcubs777 said:
GOD is the Most Holy Spirit. GOD has HIS Own body. GOD incubated on her womb, just as HE incubated on the face of the deep in Genesis. What I said is that HIS Word is what coupled the body that HE took from her womb. Her bodily systems were not a factor. No egg was needed. The body was coupled by HIS Word. I know this is difficult to understand. Its not that GOD said: And you will bear a son, and then all of a sudden she was pregnant - no. The Blessed Virgin Mary is a Prophetess. And GOD was feeding her with HIS Word, which coupled the body that HE took from her womb. GOD's Word is living and active. You believed that HE called things into existence.
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I have no idea what "God incubated on the face of the deep" means. Do you know what incubated means? And actually it is that God told Mary she would bear a son and all of a sudden she was pregnant. I do not know how feeding his word would make her pregnant.
 
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lostwanderingsoul

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moorea944 said:
Scripture tells us that we born again in baptism. And with that , we are in "in Christ".
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Jesus was born physically as a man and then died physically on the cross. He was born again spiritually when he rose from the tomb. This was setting an example for the rest of us. We will be born again when Christ returns and raises us from our graves. We will then be spiritual creatures like Jesus. I know of no scripture that says we are "born again" at baptism.
 
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moorea944

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ElishaElijah said:
When did you receive the Holy Spirit? How were you filled and born again? A lot of people have been baptized as I was but wasn’t saved and born again, just got wet and made a confession.
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Can you give me some verses on what exactly your talking about when it comes to the HS? Thanks
 
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Yahcubs777

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lostwanderingsoul said:
I have no idea what "God incubated on the face of the deep" means. Do you know what incubated means? And actually it is that God told Mary she would bear a son and all of a sudden she was pregnant. I do not know how feeding his word would make her pregnant.
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Yes ofc you don't. Because you don't what Jesus His Pre-Eminence preached about the Word of GOD. You don't know what Words from GOD do to you when you assimilate them. They literalised it and called it communion, and called it the daily sacrifice, which is an abomnation! That Holy Communion was not supposed to be bread and wine literally, its pointing to the Word of GOD that we must eat, and assimilate into our Spirit Being, when it reaches the Spirit Being it hatches what was called "The incorruptible seed", which is the Life force of immortals called Zoe.

When GOD feeds you, you cannot age, fall sick or die. When you are aging, and falling sick, GOD is not feeding you.

Jesus His Pre-Eminence personified the Word. HE revealed to us what the Word does. The miracles HE did are not just because HE was doing good; there is a reason for them. The Word of GOD has in it, GOD's Genetic contents. And that is called Zoe. And it is by the Word of GOD that Enoch and Elijah lived forever. They assimilated Revelations from GOD to the point that the mortal state was subdued, then blood cell system was supplanted, (which is what Moses crossing the red sea was preaching) and the walls of mortality were brought down, (Which is what the walls of Jericho was preaching), and the water was completely drainedin the body (which is what crossing the river Jordan was preaching), unto transfiguration.

Just as it was written in the bible that Elijah was fed Angels food, what food do you think that is? And do you think that Angels food can be eaten by Man? It was Pointing to Revelations from GOD.

The Word of GOD can bring something that is intaingible, into tangible reality. The Words from GOD can immortalise the dying; can resurrect the dead. The Words from GOD can open the eyes of the blind, and open the ears of the deaf, heal the lame, the sick and the dying... But above all sickness, heal the root of sickness, which is mortality. That is what "The Leprousy" was preaching. Mortality is a disease that slowly kills. You think you have life, but rather, you are slowly dying. The wedding between the body and the Spirit, is the wedding of your body and Spirit becoming one flesh and the two can never be parted again. Which means you can never die again. And that is the wedding of the Lamb. This is what Marriage between a Man and Woman was pointing to.

And that kind of healing; healing of mortality, is when you have been made whole. He that is whole needs not a physician. So the Word of GOD is more than edification,or just joyful and praise and so on, it was given to us to eat, to subdue mortality by putting the mortal garment off, and putting on immortality in life without dying at all and going to Abrahams Bosom where all ghosts go to,to await resurrection. That was the place called "hell"...

So as the Blessed Virgin Mary was assimilating Revelations into her Spirit Being, the Word of GOD incubated on her Womb, and coupled the body that GOD would take from her Womb. And the image of that body, was the image and likeness of Father Adam.
 
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URAVIP2ME

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lostwanderingsoul said:
Not two separate persons but Jesus himself said that the Father was greater than himself. How can one be greater if they are both the same person?
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Yes, Jesus believed his Father was greater then he is - John 14:28
Jesus also believed his Father is greater than 'all' (everyone) at John 10:29 A
Jesus will subject himself to his God - 1 Corinthians 15:28
So, yes they are Not the same person.
Just like in a family: the equals would be the ' brothers ' and Not be an equal to their father.
 
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Yahcubs777

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filthyrottendirty said:
"That is Adam, not Jesus His Pre-Eminence. Adam prayed those prayers in the Garden of Eden before he ate the fruit."

Where in the Bible does it say this scripture is about Adam?

Where is "His Pre-Eminence" mentioned in the Bible?

"Before Abraham I am, is actually before Adam, I am." Source?
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It is in the life stories of the dignatries of the kingdom. You called Jesus His Pre-Eminence who is GOD, the second Adam. It is written that there is no thing new under the sun. Then how can what HE did be new? HE was in the shoes of Adam, HIS Son, the Son of GOD.

it is written that Jesus His Pre-Eminence, has Pre-Eminence in all things. Begging the question more: How can HE be a second Adam if HE has Pre-Eminence in all things?

Who Fathered the Mankind Race? Was it Abraham or Adam? Was it not Father Adam? Or Abraham was the first Man? Father Adam,is the Abraham of the Mankind Race. Abraham means Father of Many. Yet Abraham, had one son that his seed was called through. Just like Adam had one seed his lineage came through,and that was seth. Abel was martyed, and cain was a tare and not included in the lineage. Father Adam also trained a child up in the way that he should go, and that child returned to GOD alive without dying at all, which is Enoch, the first Angel of the 1st Church Age.

This is what Abraham was told to do, but he didn't understand exactly what GOD was telling him. So he tried to kill his son. And that was in error, because death cannot lead anyone to GOD. Nobody goes to Heaven through death. GOD told Abraham, to feed his son, the son he loves, and return to him to GOD alive, a living sacrifice. Which means to feed his son, Revelations from GOD, that can immortalise his son in life alive. But he tried to kill him instead and GOD stopped him.

The Abraham, is the one that completed this task, And that is Father Adam.
 
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ElishaElijah

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moorea944 said:
Can you give me some verses on what exactly your talking about when it comes to the HS? Thanks
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“Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.””
‭‭John‬ ‭3:5-8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
“In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1:13-14‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
“When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:1-4‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
“But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:11‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
 
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Yahcubs777

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moorea944 said:
Scripture tells us that we born again in baptism. And with that , we are in "in Christ".
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This is a wrong teaching by saul paul. And the reason it came is because he needed something to prove that he was a changed man after he persecuted the church.
Baptizm has been badly misunderstood. It has become something that is ghostly.

Man is a Spirit being, Programmed in the soul, and immersed or baptized into his or her physical body. When GOD shoots out the Spirit Being, HE programmed in the soul from the Fathers Bosom, into the womb of his or her biological mother, that is a baptizm. The person is being immersed into a physical body, and that is what baptism is.

There is a reason why John was called the Baptist. And its not just because he was the only one to do it. Rather, it is speaking of a height of Priesthood. As Jesus His Pre-Eminence said, Of all born of a woman, there is none greater than that of John the Baptist. And Jesus His Pre-Eminence, also reveals that he is an Elijah. The Spirit of Elijah is not something that can be transfered, it is the Spirit Being of the person that is the Elijah. That is why Elijah is the Son of Man.

This heirarchy, is pointing to the heirarchy of the Mankind Race; the births of the Spirit Beings of the children of the kingdom which took place in the Fathers Bosom. This is what Abraham was told codedly: And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.

This wasn't just, your seed shall be numberless. Jesus His Pre-Eminence said that our hairs are numbered. And HE was speaking to the church, the body. Each strand of hair of the body of Christ is numbered. and each strand represents every child of the kingdom sent into this earth, from Abel, to the last.

What GOD was telling Abraham here, is that there is the constellation and stellar orders of the Mankind Race. And these were called the 24 elders in the book of Revelation. That 24 elders consists of the 12 Apostles of the Lamb and their Model Types, which are: Samson, Noah, Enoch, Abraham, Moses, David, Jephter, Zerubbabel, Joshua, Gideon, Samuel, Daniel. And their model types, are their female counterparts.

The Elijah are above the constellation and stellar orders. There are only 8 above them: Father Adam and Mother Eve, and the three Elijah, and their model types. Now look at the story of Noah, who was a type of Adam, and 8 were saved only. HIm and his wife, and his three sons, and their wives. And his three sons fathered the three major ethnic groups in the earth: Asian by Shem, Caucasian, by Japheth, and African, by Ham.

So Elijah is above all except the Son of GOD. That is why Jesus His Pre-Eminence said: Of all born of a woman, there is none greater than John the Baptist. So it is the Elijah that are the baptists. Even John said to Jesus His Pre-Eminence: It is I that must be baptised by you. But Jesus His Pre-Eminence said it must be done this way. What did you see in that story?

Jesus His Pre-Eminence said: Except ye are born again, ye cannot see the kingdom. Except ye are born of water and of the Spirit, ye cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD.

John is the baptist, when was he batptized by water? So is he now denied entrance into the kingdom? That is to show you that it is not what HE meant by: born of water. It doesn't mean to be immersed into the river Jordan, else, John was never baptized. But Jesus His Pre-Eminence said there is no other way, you must be born of water. So what does that mean?

How was John born of water?

No Man should baptize, except the Elijah, or those Elijah sent to baptize. Or those that Jesus His Pre-Eminence sent to baptize. Not those saul sent to baptize. Its not just being immersed into water, there is a reason for it; there is what it is in the similitudes of, and it is work of the Prophets of the highest order ONLY. GOD should recognise the baptizm else it means nothing.

So can you answer my question? How was John born of water?
 
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