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I Will Wait - Mumford and Sons

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
No one is perfect. Best to divest the Art from the Artist.
I agree, but that's easier sometimes than others.

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The Hammer

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I think is quite reasonable to be critical of antifa wernt they involved in the violence?

Responsible for violence? Not afaik, antifa is not a group with membership, or even common ideals. It's anyone who doesn't support fascism. Which means I fall into this camp.
 

tarasan

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Responsible for violence? Not afaik, antifa is not a group with membership, or even common ideals. It's anyone who doesn't support fascism.
You have literally said that it's not a group, but it is a group. There doesn't need to be a membership. I mean I'm anti racist (as I'm sure most of us here are) but I wouldnt be called antifa meaning it's a name u opt into. So yeah definitely a group of people.
 

The Hammer

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You have literally said that it's not a group, but it is a group. There doesn't need to be a membership. I mean I'm anti racist (as I'm sure most of us here are) but I wouldnt be called antifa meaning it's a name u opt into. So yeah definitely a group of people.

It's a loose collection of people who agree fascism is bad. It is not an organized group of people out causing problems or coordinating insurrections, unlike say the Proud Boys.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
It's a loose collection of people who agree fascism is bad. It is not an organized group of people out causing problems or coordinating insurrections, unlike say the Proud Boys.
They are out causing problems though people who claim to be antifa are being violent towards people. They organize marches make pamphlets fliers etc so clearly there is some organisation to it.
 

The Hammer

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They are out causing problems though people who claim to be antifa are being violent towards people. They organize marches make pamphlets fliers etc so clearly there is some organisation to it.

What Is Antifa? Separating Fact From Fiction

Organizing? I mean maybe at the local level (always been a small antifa group in portland, thanks to it being a hot bed for white supremacists). But any widescale damage, or confrontations have been mostly debunked, or never actually occured. So methinks you're drinking the kool aid.

Who are Antifa?

Who Are Antifa, and Are They a Threat?
 
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tarasan

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What Is Antifa? Separating Fact From Fiction

Organizing? I mean maybe at the local level (always been a small antifa group in portland, thanks to it being a hot bed for white supremacists). But any widescale damage, or confrontations have been mostly debunked, or never actually occured. So methinks you're drinking the kool aid.

Who are Antifa?

Who Are Antifa, and Are They a Threat?

I read the last one buddy and I got anything other than there is an element in antifa that is violent he the one drinking the coolaide ;). It even talk about how they communicate I over the internet and organize counter protests so I'm even skeptical about local level stuff.

I come from northern ireland were terrorist attack where done by a minority of people but effected the majority of others. U might think that these attacks just silly small things but my country knows first hand how these things can grow
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
What Is Antifa? Separating Fact From Fiction

Organizing? I mean maybe at the local level (always been a small antifa group in portland, thanks to it being a hot bed for white supremacists). But any widescale damage, or confrontations have been mostly debunked, or never actually occured. So methinks you're drinking the kool aid.

Who are Antifa?

Who Are Antifa, and Are They a Threat?
Just read the second one, mate did you read these it talks about them intimidating people and harassing people with no extremist background
 

The Hammer

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Just read the second one, mate did you read these it talks about them intimidating people and harassing people with no extremist background

Yes, it also states it's a loose collection of individuals with varying ideals, and no structure. Which was what I stated, "mate".

It's not a group you combat, it's a reaction to far right extremist organization.

I don't speak for Ireland, fyi, it's a nation the size of one US city, any group bigger then 50 could be conceived as a threat there.

Also, this wasn't the point of this thread. Enjoy the music. If you want to discuss antifa, make a new thread.
 

tarasan

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Yes, it also states it's a loose collection of individuals with varying ideals, and no structure. Which was what I stated, "mate".

It's not a group you combat, it's a reaction to far right extremist organization.

I don't speak for Ireland, fyi, it's a nation the size of one US city, any group bigger then 50 could be conceived as a threat there.

Also, this wasn't the point of this thread. Enjoy the music. If you want to discuss antifa, make a new thread.

Awk I didn't mean to annoy you buddy sorry if I did. Genuinely
 
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