"Chosen by appointment only"? "Not open to the public"? Since when is Christianity a secret society?
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- Thread starter Vee
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World's worst kept secret lmao.
Trailblazer
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I thank God daily that I was not chosen for that appointment.
Trailblazer
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Unfortunately it is no secret.
Trailblazer
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I think he meant that God chooses them by appointment.
I thank God every day that I was never on God's appointment list.
How does this work? If it's too long to answer you could point me towards a thread where you already have
I'm a transtheist. Gods exist as manifestations of those that create the need for them, but their existence as this is irrelevant to my path. In other words, I acknowledge the existence of deities, or more accurately, that deities exist because there are those that need them to and/or they are relevant to their path, but I have no personal belief in or need for them.
Further reading if you're interested:
Transtheism - Wikipedia
Pilgrim Soldier
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Since God chooses His elect, and that has noting to do with human choice. in other words Christians were chosen to be Christians by God, none of us chose to be Christians of our own free will
And here I thought I left Christianity of my own free will.
So as it turns out, God kicked me out and didn't tell me.
Salix,
Shadowbanned from Christianity
Pilgrim Soldier
Active Member
I'm glad we won't have to spend eternity in the same place, there would be nothing worse than being stuck with folks you don't get along withI thank God daily that I was not chosen for that appointment.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
You've been ghosted.
I'm glad we won't have to spend eternity in the same place, there would be nothing worse than being stuck with folks you don't get along with
Based on what I've seen here, your "eternity" might end up to be quite the lonely place.
Pilgrim Soldier
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We don't know why God does what He does, but please don't lose hope. He may yet bring you back better than ever before. Sometimes He sends us out into the wilderness for our own good, tribulation builds character and makes people stronger and better than before
Pilgrim Soldier
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I'm glad your just a passive observer and not the judge
Oh, you're some sort of Calvinist who believes that God created humans to be like robots. Whatever.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
That's true, and that is why in the afterlife people will gravitate towards people who are at the same level of spiritual development. I cannot say whether Christians will associate with people of other religions, all I know is what Baha'u'llah wrote about the Baha'is who will be established within the Crimson Ark, as noted below, but I hope that doesn't mean that Baha'is won't be able to associate with people who were of other religions and atheists because I like atheists.I'm glad we won't have to spend eternity in the same place, there would be nothing worse than being stuck with folks you don't get along with
“And now concerning thy question whether human souls continue to be conscious one of another after their separation from the body. Know thou that the souls of the people of Bahá, who have entered and been established within the Crimson Ark, shall associate and commune intimately one with another, and shall be so closely associated in their lives, their aspirations, their aims and strivings as to be even as one soul. They are indeed the ones who are well-informed, who are keen-sighted, and who are endued with understanding. Thus hath it been decreed by Him Who is the All-Knowing, the All-Wise.
The people of Bahá, who are the inmates of the Ark of God, are, one and all, well aware of one another’s state and condition, and are united in the bonds of intimacy and fellowship. Such a state, however, must depend upon their faith and their conduct. They that are of the same grade and station are fully aware of one another’s capacity, character, accomplishments and merits. They that are of a lower grade, however, are incapable of comprehending adequately the station, or of estimating the merits, of those that rank above them. Each shall receive his share from thy Lord. Blessed is the man that hath turned his face towards God, and walked steadfastly in His love, until his soul hath winged its flight unto God, the Sovereign Lord of all, the Most Powerful, the Ever-Forgiving, the All-Merciful.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 169-170
Pilgrim Soldier
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Nobody will gravitate to their own choice of company after death. Jesus is the only One who will either cast unbelievers into the lake of fire or He will receive believers (Christians) into eternal paradise.
No person has any control of their destiny, Jesus has all the power and He alone decides where individuals spend eternity.
I'm not sure how you got involved with you religion, but Jesus warned Christians not to listen to any other Prophets after He goes back to heaven. He said that many false prophets would come after Him, teaching the doctrine of Demons. I take Jesus at His word so I consider every other prophet who came after Jesus as servants of Satan preaching Doctrine of Demons.
Trailblazer
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I did not say it would be their choice where people end up in the afterlife. Is falling due to gravity a choice?
However, it is the choices that we make in this world that will determine where we end up in the afterlife.
Everyone determines their own destiny because we all have free will to live a good life and to accept or reject God.
Jesus won't be casting anyone anywhere because the lake of fire is just an allegory, not a real place people go.
Regarding Jesus accepting Christians into eternal paradise, I would not count your chickens before they hatch.
No person has complete control of their destiny, but it is God who has all the power and He alone decides where individuals spend eternity. Jesus has no say in it because Jesus is not God.
Jesus did not warn Christians not to listen to any other Prophets after He goes back to heaven, Jesus warned Christians to beware of false prophets. However, all prophets are not false, because had that been the case Jesus would never have said Ye shall know them by their fruits. If there were not going to be any more true prophets Jesus would not have said Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:15-20 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Fruits: the pleasant or successful result of work or actions: fruit
Trailblazer
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From what I have seen God already did that.
Trailblazer
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Jesus also gave other warnings. He told Christians that He was going back to heaven and He would send another Comforter from the Father; and Jesus told you before it came to pass so you would believe when it came to pass, but only a few Christians thus far have heeded that warning.
John 14 KJV
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.