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How battered is your book?

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
An observation about traces of behaviour is to look at a person's religious book. Is if battered, corners coming apart, or is it in pristine condition, unopened? Has it been replaced?

I remember sitting with my Guru one time, and he said that when visiting devotee's homes, and shrines, one of the first things he'd do was look at the books. You can tell if a person is doing daily study, daily reading, or not. He laughed about one 'high and mighty' devotee, always acting the part, who hadn't even taken the cover off the book. He wasn'r bothered at all, just sharing this observation with me, in a humorous way.

Our Hindu priests, especially the ones who travel around to do many and assorted specialized pujas like Mahakumbhabhishekams (grand opening, first large ceremony of a new Hindu temple) need to carry these books because they could never remember the mantras used in such special occasions, perhaps only once in 12 years. Lay priest sfrom the Brahmin community also have them. They're always really battered, pages falling out, etc. One day I joked that we could tell the quality of the priest by how battered the book was. Of course in India it's also partly utilitarian, because in the culture you don't waste, you get the most possible use you can out of everything.

How used is your book? How many times have you had to replace it?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
My Hindu scripture is in the same condition I purchased it in.

Of course, that's because it's on Kindle. :D

I've seen some priests who've switched to that as well. Certainly a paper saver, yet there is something kind of esoteric about an old copy of the Vedic mantrams. Sahasranamas are one of the hardest.

I still use the physical books.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
I've seen some priests who've switched to that as well. Certainly a paper saver, yet there is something kind of esoteric about an old copy of the Vedic mantrams. Sahasranamas are one of the hardest.

I still use the physical books.

I don't think I've purchased a physical book in 10 years.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
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Hmmmm.
Here's the Pali canon (40 volumes) for starters. Then there's all the Mahayana sutras. Thankfully, Zen is famously described (by Bodhidarma) as being "A special transmission outside the scriptures, not founded upon words and letters." The finger and the moon stuff, all started with the Flower Sermon.
I have various books, some more dog-eared than others.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I found my old Bible. Covers are missing. Spine broken in two parts. Saturated in highlighter markings.

It's a testament to my past obsession.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
The 'book' I read is the book of the 'heart' and yes, having the limited self 'tattered' and threadbare is part of the journey.

"The human heart can see what's hidden to the eyes, and the heart knows things that the mind does not begin to understand."
 

Martin

Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
An observation about traces of behaviour is to look at a person's religious book. Is if battered, corners coming apart, or is it in pristine condition, unopened? Has it been replaced?

I remember sitting with my Guru one time, and he said that when visiting devotee's homes, and shrines, one of the first things he'd do was look at the books. You can tell if a person is doing daily study, daily reading, or not. He laughed about one 'high and mighty' devotee, always acting the part, who hadn't even taken the cover off the book. He wasn'r bothered at all, just sharing this observation with me, in a humorous way.

Our Hindu priests, especially the ones who travel around to do many and assorted specialized pujas like Mahakumbhabhishekams (grand opening, first large ceremony of a new Hindu temple) need to carry these books because they could never remember the mantras used in such special occasions, perhaps only once in 12 years. Lay priest sfrom the Brahmin community also have them. They're always really battered, pages falling out, etc. One day I joked that we could tell the quality of the priest by how battered the book was. Of course in India it's also partly utilitarian, because in the culture you don't waste, you get the most possible use you can out of everything.

How used is your book? How many times have you had to replace it?

I have a large Buddhist library, but so far only three "Hindu" texts: The Upanishads, Bhagavad Gita and Atma Bodha - I'm still on my first copies of those!
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I have a large Buddhist library, but so far only three "Hindu" texts: The Upanishads, Bhagavad Gita and Atma Bodha - I'm still on my first copies of those!
I made the mistake of buying soft-cover at one time, and am on the third book of one of my Guru's works. One of the previous editions wasn't bound well, and that never helped.

Some of those old family bibles, passed down through generations, had remarkable durability.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
This just sounds like a silly bias, to me. I would be highly skeptical of any "guru" I heard talking like that.

First of all, what is it that people think they are "studying"? And to what end?

Secondly, of the times in my life when I found repeated use for such texts, it was because myself and my life were a mess. So practically speaking, a 'pristine' holy book means an ordered, functional, happy life.

I look at this like I looked at it when I was in AA recovering from alcohol addiction. Read the books, listen to those who know, and follow their proscriptions until you are finally free from the affliction. Then enjoy the amazing gift you've been given. Share it freely with others. The whole point of getting your life back is to LIVE IT. Not spend it in AA meetings reiterating recovery jargon until you die.

If your religion does not eventually set you free of it, it's not working.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I put together a custom post-screw binder. It was crafted with super glue, pinched together while it dried, and is pretty darned durable. I have also never dropped it, so there's that. The cardboard I used for its guts is not as sturdy as I would like. If I make another, I may opt for hardwood instead. Within, the pages are higher quality paper whose pages are turned carefully when used. And if a page gets destroyed, can print another one. Sometimes take out pages on purpose to revise and update them anyway. It is a living religion, after all. Been a while since I've done much of that, though.
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Which book? There are a lot of them...

I've always enjoyed the wear and tear on books(so long as it didn't ruin them). We had a beloved rabbit, named Cortez, who chewed a big chunk off of my first volume of the Bhagavad Gita for Daily Living. My husband was horrified. I thought it was funny. Cortez has been gone 4 or 5 years now, and when we see the cover on that book, we both smile these days.

I had a co worker years ago who used to bring an old tired Bible to work with her. Half the cover was gone. the corners were all shredded, and it hardly shut anymore. She came in angry one day, and told me she had lost it. I told her I'd buy her a new one. She said that one was special. So I told her not to worry. I'd give it to my son(who was a toddler at the time) and let him gnaw on it. Then I'd run it through the washing machine, stomp up and down on it, and run it over with my car a few times, and it should look just like the old one. At least it got her laughing. Fortunately, she found it before I had to do all of that.

I think for some people, and some books, they just take on a life of their own...
 
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