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Bill would ban twice impeached presidents from being buried at Arlington
- Thread starter McBell
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McBell
Resident Sourpuss
And here I was, trying really really hard to give him the benefit of the doubt...
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Try looking without the special glasses...
What is funny is that that is how you see it with your special glasses.
Not the least bit surprising mind you.
But funnier than hell.
Really?
You know,
I got some beautiful ocean front property right up the street from a golden bridge in Wyoming....
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Even if acquitted?
Personally I always felt Arlington should be set aside exclusively for veterans who have died or seen combat in the performance of their duty.
Personally I always felt Arlington should be set aside exclusively for veterans who have died or seen combat in the performance of their duty.
Fallen Prophet
Well-Known Member
Are people getting banned from social media when they claim the 2020 election was illegitimate? Yes or No?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Possibly. Since it was proven to be legitimate beyond a reasonable doubt time and time again why shouldn't people be banned for libel?
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
None of the people I know IRL have been.
Other than that, I do not know.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
I am waiting for his "Not my Election" mantra....
And what would you say are the terms? Is it enough to just get elected and then hang out for four years?
When they are sworn in, they take a very specific oath. I would say that at the very least those are the terms. Any President that clearly violates that oath cannot be considered to have fulfilled the terms.
Who proved it?
Note:
MAGAs never proved fraud corrupted the election.
I believe Biden won. But I've seen no analysis of this.
I strongly believe we should avoid using the “p-word” in all but a few rare instances.
But the evidence strongly indicates that the election was fair and valid.
And when a virtual army of well funded and strongly motivated lawyers and investigators try and fail to turn up and significant evidence to the contrary, I am convinced that the election was fair, as should any reasonable person.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Not so. Let's look at the closest challenged state. Georgia was extremely close. So they first had a machine recount. Same result. Then they had a state wide hand recount of all ballots. In case you did not know the voting machines also printed a copy of the ballot on paper when the person voted. And of course mail in ballots are on paper. In Georgia there is a paper trail and it told us Biden won. Then it was challenged that many mail in ballots were not legal. That was checked to, but I do not think they had time to check every envelope. They did a test of a statistically significant sample and found no cheating.
In Georgia the election was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be fair. And of course it only gets harder to cheat with even larger numbers. To claim it was unfair is a fantasy.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I like to use the legal standard of "proven beyond a reasonable doubt". That standard has been met.
Analysis of 1 state is evidence.
I wouldn't call it proof.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
A compilation of evidence is "proof" in the legal sense. In the mathematical sense of course there is no "proof".
There's "close enuf".
I haven't seen that.
But it's all moot....Trump lost big time.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Look into how far Georgia went. And remember that cheating tend to leave traces. It would take a huge conspiracy, requiring member of both parties, to fix machines so that they could inescapably count ballots in a dishonest way for the entire state. The count of the paper ballots made sure that the machines matched the machine count. One more tidbit that I forgot; an analysis of the voting machines show no foul play:
Review of Georgia’s voting machines found no foul play | StateScoop
Just as when it comes to a criminal trial the prosecution, in this case those accusing others of cheating, had to come up with evidence for their claims. They had none. They only had wild accusations that never panned out. You cannot get further past "proven beyond a reasonable doubt" than was done in Georgia.
Sure you can. I'd be interested in seeing a thorough
examination & analysis of all disputed states. This
would have the advantage of taking some wind from
sails of conspiracy theorists. Some.
Fallen Prophet
Well-Known Member
They are. It's sad.