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Best person ever

ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
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I am going to put an end to this argument of

Best person ever

The obvious answer is

Me of course
 
blü 2

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
questfortruth said:
Who is the best person ever?
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My parents. They're my sine qua non and I owe them everything.
questfortruth said:
Who is worst?
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Depends where you stand whether you think Putin, Xi, Kim Jong-un, and so on are heroes or villains. But I think most of the world can agree that whoever it is, Trump's shot at the title gave the crown a great shake. I won't comment on Africa since a lot of them tend to see things differently.
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
questfortruth said:
Mother Teresa is better than us, than you or me. Why? She is a saint. It is objectivity.
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I know very little about her, but i dont can not speak for others all i can do is to do my best to become better as a human being, i dont tell others they are better or worse than others :) their action words and thoughts will say all that is needed to know.
 
firedragon

firedragon

Veteran Member
questfortruth said:
Who is the best person ever? Who is worst?


If one is better than the other, then there is the best and worst of all beings.
The best we will call God, the worst - the devil.


An Atheist would comment: "Well, according to this logic, Keanu Reeves will be God, and the devil will be some Hitler."

The point is, God and the devil will be there anyway. Thus, Atheists will become an extinct kind. After that, people can study God by the methods of science and logic.

An Atheist would comment: "If there was an objective measure of morality, then your statement would be true. But the fact is that there is no such measure in principle. Therefore, this is not proof, but only a stream of mental expressions. It's like looking for the happiest or the most unhappy person in the world."

And yet it is indisputable that Mother Teresa is objectively better than Adolf Hitler. Anyone is better than Hitler. And if so, then someone is better, someone is worse. If you study in detail any case (and a person's past and future), then even you can perfectly distinguish between the people. Otherwise, why the Nazi War Criminals were hanged after world war two? Therefore, believe me, there is the best person. Even if you are not able to figure out which of two people is better, the Lord in Heaven knows which of the two is closer to Him.

Your mother is the best person ever. But subjectively.
Mother Teresa is better than your mom, objectively. Why? Mother Teresa is a saint. Mother Teresa is better than us, than you or me. Lady Diana is better than me. At least, she is more beautiful inside and outside.

"Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name. But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person." John 2:23-25.

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As person, who is better is pretty much a subjective matter. And to say that someone is objectively better than someone else, it is entirely plausible but must be backed up by some good research and reasoning. Maybe there is someone in this forum who is "better" than Mother Teresa. Maybe this person has a small effect on someone, and this someone may have a ripple effect that we could never quantify because "we dont know this person". Maybe this person effect has a much bigger and better effect on the whole world that would materialise a 100 years later.

You see what I see? ;)

Anyway, this "better" and other words like that are so subjective, and so vague, that is objectively unusable for a research.
 
Martin

Martin

Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
It would have to be a scientist. One of my favourites is Isaac Newton.
 
Inquire of God

Inquire of God

Member
questfortruth said:
Who is the best person ever? Who is worst?


If one is better than the other, then there is the best and worst of all beings.
The best we will call God, the worst - the devil.


An Atheist would comment: "Well, according to this logic, Keanu Reeves will be God, and the devil will be some Hitler."

The point is, God and the devil will be there anyway. Thus, Atheists will become an extinct kind. After that, people can study God by the methods of science and logic.

An Atheist would comment: "If there was an objective measure of morality, then your statement would be true. But the fact is that there is no such measure in principle. Therefore, this is not proof, but only a stream of mental expressions. It's like looking for the happiest or the most unhappy person in the world."

And yet it is indisputable that Mother Teresa is objectively better than Adolf Hitler. Anyone is better than Hitler. And if so, then someone is better, someone is worse. If you study in detail any case (and a person's past and future), then even you can perfectly distinguish between the people. Otherwise, why the Nazi War Criminals were hanged after world war two? Therefore, believe me, there is the best person. Even if you are not able to figure out which of two people is better, the Lord in Heaven knows which of the two is closer to Him.

Your mother is the best person ever. But subjectively.
Mother Teresa is better than your mom, objectively. Why? Mother Teresa is a saint. Mother Teresa is better than us, than you or me. Lady Diana is better than me. At least, she is more beautiful inside and outside.

"Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name. But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person." John 2:23-25.

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When it comes to the mortal ministry of the Lord I try to keep something in mind. Here was God incarnate, a person with unlimited power and ability. He could have force converted the world without killing a single person.
And yet He did not.
Because of this He left us with the freedom, as He did then and before, to make our own choices and to think our own thoughts, so that when we are judged we cannot proclaim that He made us do anything.
Quite the contrary we shall be individually responsible for every one of our own acts.
He was and is the best, no one else comes close.
 
questfortruth

questfortruth

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firedragon said:
Anyway, this "better" and other words like that are so subjective, and so vague, that is objectively unusable for a research.
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Well, then think under the word "better" as one, who runs faster. The fastest is the God of the Bible.
Then under the word "worse" is the one, who has done more deceptions, said more lies, and has killed more of the unborn babies.
 
firedragon

firedragon

Veteran Member
questfortruth said:
Well, then think under the word "better" as one, who runs faster. The fastest is the God of the Bible.
Then under the word "worse" is the one, who has done more deceptions, said more lies, and has killed more of the unborn babies.
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Thats why just words "better" and "worse"

Anyway, this "better" and other words like that are so subjective, and so vague, that is objectively unusable for a research.
 
blü 2

blü 2

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Premium Member
questfortruth said:
Your mother is the best person ever. But subjectively.
Mother Teresa is better than your mom, objectively. Why? Mother Teresa is a saint.
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You never met my mother. Anything Mother Teresa could do, she could do better. AND she could do things Mother Teresa never did, like have children.
 
questfortruth

questfortruth

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You never met my mother. Anything Mother Teresa could do, she could do better. AND she could do things Mother Teresa never did, like have children.
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Define the word "better" as having more children. Then the best person is God, He has all of us.
 
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