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Trump Acquitted

Stevicus

Veteran Member
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Not that it was any great surprise.

Republican Sens. Richard Burr of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitt Romney of Utah, Ben Sasse of Nebraska and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania all voted guilty.

The vote means the Senate cannot bar Trump from holding future federal offices.

Moments after the vote concluded, the former president issued a statement praising his legal team and thanking the senators and other members of Congress "who stood proudly for the Constitution we all revere and for the sacred legal principles at the heart of our country."

"This has been yet another phase of the greatest witch hunt in the history of our Country. No president has ever gone through anything like it," Trump said.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
7 GOP is a larger number than I expected. But is is still a horrible “indictment” of the Republican Party and the U.S. political system,

Many of those who voted against conviction have stated they did so based solely on “jurisdiction issues”, not because they believe Trump did not incite insurrection. A nonsensical and cowardly excuse.

{rioters had been} “fed wild falsehoods by the most powerful man on Earth. Because he was angry he'd lost an election."

"Former President Trump's actions that preceded the riot were a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,". Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day." - Mitch McConnell
 
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Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
He was a great president, and I can accept that things turned out this way. I now lend Biden my strength, as I have every President of the United States, but I will always look back on the era of Trump with positive memories.
 
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Trump acquitted but not one democrat crossed the aisle.

How do you interpret that fact? And by what reasoning and evidence do you arrive at the fact's significance and meaning to you?

Do you consider yourself reasonably well-informed about American politics?

What are your three most preferred media outlets?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I am saddened

Well, this isn't going to make it any easier to discourage repeat performances of 1/6, but David Frum -- one of W. Bush's speechwriters -- thinks the trial will significantly reduce Trump's political prospects. We'll need to wait to see, of course.

Maybe one of the more significant bits of fallout from 1/6 is that it's caused more people to leave the Republican Party than anything else has in the past four years. Not many. Around 100,000 so far have switched their voter registrations. But perhaps the trend will continue now that it's started. In a way, that points to a silver lining in the narrow margins by which states can be won or lost these days.

Me, I see further radicalization and a stronger inclination to violence on the horizon as the Party shrinks and the leadership feels increasing pressure to resort to desperate measures in order to hold onto power or gain it.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
He was a great president, and I can accept that things turned out this way. I now lend Biden my strength, as I have every President of the United States, but I will always look back with fondness on the era of Trump.
I doubt any of the victims of Trump's mobs incited by him at the Capitol will be quite so fond of it.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
7 GOP is a larger number than I expected. But is is still a horrible “indictment” of the Republican Party and the U.S. political system,

Many of those who voted against conviction have stated they did so based solely on “jurisdiction issues”, not because they believe Trump did not incite insurrection. A nonsensical and cowardly excuse.

{rioters had been} “fed wild falsehoods by the most powerful man on Earth. Because he was angry he'd lost an election."

"Former President Trump's actions that preceded the riot were a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,". Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day." - Mitch McConnell
I agree with you, and it was McConnell, announcing early today that he would vote to acquit based not on facts in evidence but on juridsdication issue -- which issue is false, since the Senate itself gets to decide on jurisdiction, and it did!

However, it gave the slavering Trump grovellers an out, which they joyfully took advantage of.

I am not surprised. There is nothing about looking for "truth" in this trial. There was nothing about justice, there was nothing about doing the right thing -- either for one's conscience, or for the nation, or for democracy itself, or anything other than hoping that there'll be enough voters to ensure that they get elected next time around. That, and nothing more.

But hey, it's their country, not mine. They have to live in it, not me. And the Republicans like McConnell, Graham, Cruz, Hawley and the rest have to live with their own consciences, but for what I think are pretty obvious reasons, they'll have little problem with that. They have none.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Well, this isn't going to make it any easier to discourage repeat performances of 1/6, but David Frum -- one of W. Bush's speechwriters -- thinks the trial will significantly reduce Trump's political prospects. We'll see, of course.

Maybe one of the more significant bits of fallout from 1/6 is that it's caused more people to leave the Republican Party than anything else has in the past four years. Not many. Around 100,000 so far have switched their voter registrations. But perhaps the trend will continue now that it's started. In a way, that points to a silver lining in the narrow margins by which states can be won or lost these days.

Me, I see further radicalization and a stronger inclination to violence on the horizon as the Party shrinks and the leadership feels increasing pressure to resort to desperate measures in order to hold onto power or gain it.

Interesting times.

I too can see trouble ahead as desperate measures are used cling on to power.

I am thankful i am not american and feel for those who have to deal with the fallout of an odious mans temper tantrums
 

ecco

Veteran Member
McConnell spoke after the vote.

He blamed Trump for the insurrection. He cited Trump's months of lying about the election and his actions on Jan 6.
He made the argument, correctly, that the penalty for conviction was removal from office which. This was not possible in Trump's case. Thereby he gave (or at least tried to give) cover for anyone voting to acquit.


He also indicated that Trump could be charged in civil cases and in criminal cases.





ETA: I wonder if Cruz and Graham and Jr. could also be targeted in civil cases initiated by the cops who were injured or killed.
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
How do you interpret that fact? And by what reasoning and evidence do you arrive at the fact's significance and meaning to you?

Do you consider yourself reasonably well-informed about American politics?

What are your three most preferred media outlets?
The Democrats are a satanic cabal and probably pedophiles.

Yes. I am among the most well informed Americans.

Newsmaxx, my cousin Paul who has had direct contact with Q, and the TempleOS oracle.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Well at least they tried, I guess.
I doubt this is the last we’ll hear of it. I’m not even American and this was on our news all the time. Yeesh!

Somewhat tangentially related, I wonder how Trump’s old pal Guliani (?) is doing. Last I heard he was being sued for libel or something.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
The Democrats are a satanic cabal and probably pedophiles.

Yes. I am among the most well informed Americans.

Newsmaxx, my cousin Paul who has had direct contact with Q, and the TempleOS oracle.


Good to see you today, Mister Emu! Thank you so much for raising my spirits!
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
The lynching of Justice Kavanaugh says Hi.
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Well at least they tried, I guess.
I doubt this is the last we’ll hear of it. I’m not even American and this was on our news all the time. Yeesh!

I'm so glad the Senate can now get back to at least maneuvering over Biden's Pandemic Relief Bill!

I expect now and then there will be post-trial facts emerging mostly from the small, but sometimes more influential media outlets, such as The Intercept.

Somewhat tangentially related, I wonder how Trump’s old pal Guliani (?) is doing. Last I heard he was being sued for libel or something.

Based on what I'm hearing from multiple sources, Giuliani seems on track for paying out legal fees now and could be still paying them out this time next year. The current suit might be one of several. Who knows what company he'll have? Trump, for sure.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
The lynching of Justice Kavanaugh says Hi.
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That's strange. Who is that kid? I didn't know any of his rape victims had carried their pregnancies to term.


Oops! Did I just now play fast and lose with the facts? Hm... I believe I did. Gotta remember that Lakota proverb a bit better. "Choose your enemies wisely, for you become like them." I sure wasn't choosing wisely there, was I?
 
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