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Views on demons

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Jesus gave an interesting bit of insight into how the demons operate....he expelled quite a few from those who had been possessed....

"24 “When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through waterless places in search of a resting-place, and after finding none, it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I moved.’ 25 And on arriving, it finds the house swept clean and adorned. 26 Then it goes and takes along seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and after getting inside, they dwell there. So the final circumstances of that man become worse than the first.” (Luke 11:24-26)

If we have been troubled by demons in the past and they have left us for some reason, then it is vital to fill that void with strong spiritual things, otherwise you will invite them back and they will bring other demons more wicked than themselves and move right back in. This was Jesus speaking, so notice should be taken.....I have known people deeply troubled by the demons harassing them.....only God can help us get rid of them.

The demons were active when Christ walked the earth and he said that they will be very active again in this time of the end. (Revelation 12:7-12) They know that their time is nearly up.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
How does your religion view demons if your religion has them?
There is very little in Hinduism that is either not believed (or believed) by at least some Hindus somewhere or not supported (or supported) by some Hindu text somewhere. I am skeptical about their existence in the external world as such (along with ghosts, spirits etc). In my view they do not exist out there in the world but come from within our consciousness. Not sure if that makes them less real or more real. Depends on what you believe "real" means of course.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
How does your religion view demons if your religion has them?

Where are demons from?why do they exist?

The Bible gives us information about them....


Angels Sinned


2 Peter 2:4....2 Peter 2:4 ....
“For God did not spare angels when they had sinned, but hurling them down to Tartarus consigned them to caves of darkness, keeping them in readiness for judgement.”

A question comes up: How did they sin? (“when” they sinned, will be answered later.)

Jude 1:6....Jude 1:6 ....
“And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day.”

In what way did angels ‘leave their proper dwelling’? And when?
The Bible gives us the answer....
Genesis 6:1-4....
“When men began to multiply on the face of the Earth and daughters were born to them, then the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful. And they took as their wives all whom they chose. Then Jehovah said, “My spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.”

These “sons of God” were angels.
Some do not accept this view, but why would the Bible @ 2 Peter & Jude tell us about ‘angels sinning’ and “the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling”, and then not give the reader an explanation, somewhere within its pages?

Plus, the Genesis account says these sons of God “took all whom they chose.” Does that not imply a being more powerful than a man?

So...angels had sex with women?? Some may say “that’s crazy!”
But if you think about it....what’s the common thread, (indicating a kernel of truth,) found in almost every major myth? It’s the “gods” having sex with human females! From Norse, to Greek / Roman, to Hindu, etc,.....they all portray their deities producing offspring (= the Nephilim) from cohabitation w/ women!

On the subject of the Nephilim, a related topic, is this:

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003223
The links to the left of the article provide further details.


Satan isn’t alone in “misleading the entire inhabited Earth”. His angels “were hurled down with him”! (Revelation 12:9-12) That’s one reason why this world is so messed up. IMO.
 
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Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
Where are demons from?why do they exist?
Legend has it that when Satan rebelled against God he took one third of God's angels with him

So I imagine those fallen angels are today's demons

But maybe he has somehow produced new demons. I have no idea

But they exist as demons because they left God to join Satan
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I believe humans have spirits, and humans can be good or bad, angelic or demonic. But once the non-virtuous spirits depart the body they are powerless.

So I do not believe in demons as evil spirits which harm people. There is only non-virtuos embodied humans with the power to harm others.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Jesus gave an interesting bit of insight into how the demons operate....he expelled quite a few from those who had been possessed....

"24 “When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through waterless places in search of a resting-place, and after finding none, it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I moved.’ 25 And on arriving, it finds the house swept clean and adorned. 26 Then it goes and takes along seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and after getting inside, they dwell there. So the final circumstances of that man become worse than the first.” (Luke 11:24-26)

If we have been troubled by demons in the past and they have left us for some reason, then it is vital to fill that void with strong spiritual things, otherwise you will invite them back and they will bring other demons more wicked than themselves and move right back in. This was Jesus speaking, so notice should be taken.....I have known people deeply troubled by the demons harassing them.....only God can help us get rid of them.

The demons were active when Christ walked the earth and he said that they will be very active again in this time of the end. (Revelation 12:7-12) They know that their time is nearly up.
You know, Deeje, it always amazed me, according to the Gospels, how many of the Jews — God’s chosen people in Jesus’ day — were affected by demons!
Almost every time, when the accounts say he healed the sick, it adds “he expelled demons.” (It was only the Israelites he helped (mostly).)
Of course, being Jehovah’s people made them a target, but many had apparently strayed so far from pure worship, the demons had a tight grip on quite a few!

I betcha sooo many of them, not just Israelites but those from all cultures, when they are resurrected, will be ecstatic at their freedom from demonic slavery!

It could be, though, that initially, some people may not...they may miss their “spirit guides”, because it may have meant revenue for them. Like spirit mediums & such.

My wife’s mother, who died a couple years ago, was a fortune-teller, & a tarot card reader. She claimed to have communicated regularly w/ her dead husband, my wife’s Dad, who died about 40 years ago.

Just think of this scenario: when the Resurrection occurs, and both of them are resurrected, he will tell her, “I never spoke with you after I died!” Boy, won’t that be eye-opening, coming to realize that she had been speaking with demons all those years! There probably will be millions of similar conversations like that!

Finally! For mankind, there will be no more deception and lies!
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
How does your religion view demons if your religion has them?
In my theology demons were just rebellious celestials marooned on the planet after the fall. They could never invade the mind of a mentally stable person and never had the power to lead people against their will. After Jesus they were all taken away. They don't exist for us anymore.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Could you explain to me the differences between Prakriti and Maya?

I could spend hours talking about this, but for the sake of preventing a TLDR post, I’ll keep it as basic as I can.

The two concepts, as I understand them, are closely related. The term prakriti is used more by the Samkhya school of philosophy, and the term Maya is used more in Advaita.

Maya is the force that creates the appearance of time, space, and causation manifesting itself as the universe. Prakriti is described as the primal energy of nature that composes matter and is comprised of three gunas: sattva, rajas, and tamas.

The biggest difference between the two, as I understand it, is that Maya is viewed as illusory, whereas Prakriti is viewed as real. In other words, Maya tends toward advaita, whereas Prakriti tends toward dvaita.

Also how about the difference between the Gunas and the Triumirti (in traditions where Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva are seen as forces/metaphors/non-literal entities - assuming there is any?)

My understanding of this is a bit more limited, and another Hindu might be able to better explain it, but the gunas I believe you’re asking about are sattva, rajas, and tamas, and these can be associated with the Trimurti as such:
  • Sattva - Brahma: Creation
  • Rajas - Vishnu: Preservation
  • Tamas - Shiva: Destruction
I mention tamas in my earlier post, as it is associated with darkness, lethargy, and ignorance, and those individuals who are predominantly associated with this guna are perceived as not nice people, and are believed to be the one who will experience the most lifetimes in Maya.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
How does your religion view demons if your religion has them?
How do you view demons?

Also to anyone that believe in God as the creator, a couple of questions, how come you think that God doesn't get rid of them? Also how do you tell the difference between a demon doing bad things and God punishing you for something?
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
How does your religion view demons if your religion has them?
My religion teaches that Demons want to kill you but they need permission from God before they can do that. God does give them permission if the person gives them permission first by inviting a Demon to come into their life.

Demons used to reside in heaven as Angels before they were cast down to the earth along with Satan.Now we have billions of Demons roaming the earth seeking victims, all they need is a small opening and they come rushing in. They don't always kill the person straight away, they usually use them to get other humans and when they achieve their goal then they kill the person.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
How do you view demons?

Also to anyone that believe in God as the creator, a couple of questions, how come you think that God doesn't get rid of them? Also how do you tell the difference between a demon doing bad things and God punishing you for something?
God is going to cast every single Demon into hell on judgement day and the Demons know what their fate is but they don't know when the appointed time is for judgement day. God is giving everyone a chance to repent before He comes to judge us, that's why He hasn't got rid of the Demons yet.

God is currently using Demons to punish people, so it's not God or the Demon it's both. But don't forget, we also punish ourselves when we don't heed God's warnings, He told us how to live for our own good and when we ignore Him we hurt ourselves.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I have come across certain JW's and elders who have given talks (can't remember if this is in the literature or not) who have stated that clearing your mind through meditation allows demons to inhabit your mind and body. This is why meditation (as the world sees it, such as in Hinduism and Buddhism, not the meaning of meditation that JW's use) is an evil practice.

A fascinating concept.
You are not the only one who remembers that precept taught by (some) Jehovah's Witnesses. I remember it well.

I do meditate and it has been for cleansing a bad feeling in me. I shall call meditation a good practice. Though, I think it need not be a ritual. IMO
 
How does your religion view demons if your religion has them?
Demons are Satan and his followers who are all spirits. They do not have flesh bodies. They constantly seek to mislead or influence people to do evil and they can do this by appearing to people, whispering to them and talking to them. Their influence can also be felt. They teach every wrong doctrine known to man and may have a few in store we don't yet know about. One of their principle teachings is that they don't even exist. Another is that mankind are not children of God. Another of their principle teachings is that people should be able to do whatever they want with no consequences and that law is foolish and unnecessary. There are some people who are very close to and taught by demons and even Satan himself. Some of these people are very wealthy and influential, but I do not know who they are, only that they are out there and are in league with Satan for whatever the benefit is that they are getting or are wanting. They are real and they do want people to do the very worst things that they can inspire them to do.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
The Ancient Greek word δαίμων daemon denotes a spirit or divine power, much like the Latin genius or numen. Daimōn most likely came from the Greek verb daiesthai (to divide, distribute).[2] The Greek conception of a daimōn notably appears in the works of Plato, where it describes the divine inspiration of Socrates. The original Greek word daimon does not carry the negative connotation initially understood by implementation of the Koine δαιμόνιον (daimonion),[1] and later ascribed to any cognate words sharing the root.

The Greek terms do not have any connotations of evil or malevolence. In fact, εὐδαιμονία eudaimonia, (literally good-spiritedness) means happiness. By the early Roman Empire, cult statues were seen, by pagans and their Christian neighbors alike, as inhabited by the numinous presence of the gods: "Like pagans, Christians still sensed and saw the gods and their power, and as something, they had to assume, lay behind it, by an easy traditional shift of opinion they turned these pagan daimones into malevolent 'demons', the troupe of Satan..... Far into the Byzantine period Christians eyed their cities' old pagan statuary as a seat of the demons' presence. It was no longer beautiful, it was infested."[4] The term had first acquired its negative connotations in the Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Bible into Greek, which drew on the mythology of ancient Semitic religions. This was then inherited by the Koine text of the New Testament. The Western medieval and neo-medieval conception of a demon[5] derives seamlessly from the ambient popular culture of Late Antiquity. The Hellenistic "daemon" eventually came to include many Semitic and Near Eastern gods as evaluated by Christianity.[citation needed]

The supposed existence of demons remains an important concept in many modern religions and occultist traditions. Demons are still feared largely due to their alleged power to possess living creatures. In the contemporary Western occultist tradition (perhaps epitomized by the work of Aleister Crowley), a demon (such as Choronzon, which is Crowley's interpretation of the so-called 'Demon of the Abyss') is a useful metaphor for certain inner psychological processes (inner demons), though some may also regard it as an objectively real phenomenon. Some scholars[6] believe that large portions of the demonology (see Asmodai) of Judaism, a key influence on Christianity and Islam, originated from a later form of Zoroastrianism, and were transferred to Judaism during the Persian era.
Demon - Wikipedia

It makes me wonder why devout Christians would name their son Damon or Damian (both mean demon).

Other questionable names from the bible include Absolam.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
How does your religion view demons if your religion has them?
What do you mean by "demons"? I believe in malicious or baleful spirits, yes. But they're no more harmful than people who you have a feud with, ultimately. It's the same as with living people you're feuding with or hate.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Demons are Satan and his followers who are all spirits. They do not have flesh bodies. They constantly seek to mislead or influence people to do evil and they can do this by appearing to people, whispering to them and talking to them. Their influence can also be felt. They teach every wrong doctrine known to man and may have a few in store we don't yet know about. One of their principle teachings is that they don't even exist. Another is that mankind are not children of God. Another of their principle teachings is that people should be able to do whatever they want with no consequences and that law is foolish and unnecessary. There are some people who are very close to and taught by demons and even Satan himself. Some of these people are very wealthy and influential, but I do not know who they are, only that they are out there and are in league with Satan for whatever the benefit is that they are getting or are wanting. They are real and they do want people to do the very worst things that they can inspire them to do.
They can even pretend to be ‘angels of light”. 2 Corinthians 11 14
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 
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