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The Ten Commandments movie

firedragon

firedragon

Veteran Member
Trailblazer said:
Our cable went out a couple of days ago so my husband went looking for movies and pulled the movie The Ten Commandments (1956) off the bookcase, which is one of his favorite movies. We have seen the movie many times but it has been years since I watched it.


I soon realized that I am not the same person I was when I last watched it because I cried through practically the entire movie. I know I have said that I am not religiously inclined and that I don’t like God very much but after watching this movie I realized that is not really the case.

I never read the Torah or the Old Testament, only bits and pieces of it, but now I am inspired to read it all, as soon as I have time. I also want to say that I now believe that Judaism laid the foundation for the religions that came later – Christianity, Islam, and the Baha'i Faith.

I have a whole new appreciation for Moses and the Jewish people and Judaism after watching this movie, so I guess it was a good thing our cable went out. :)

If anyone of the Jewish faith or anyone else wants to weigh in on how accurately the movie depicts the Jewish history I would be very happy to hear from them. How much of the movie was just Hollywood? Call me naive, but I believe that those miracles could have happened by the power of God.
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Leaving aside the beautiful people in the Movie and what a great movie it was and is, I question some things that are depicted in both.

It seems like a fantastic coincidence that Herod tried to kill all the kids because he was afraid of a king, and a fear of a rebellion, while the "pharaoh" was also afraid of a rebellion so he too killed off so many babies.

It seems like these most brutal rulers got the prediction/prophecy of these two characters in separate occasions way too accurately. Too accurate to taste. How could a hateful, brutal regime or/and ruler(s) get the prophecy absolutely right?

Its just one of the questions.
 
blü 2

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Trailblazer said:
Our cable went out a couple of days ago so my husband went looking for movies and pulled the movie The Ten Commandments (1956) off the bookcase, which is one of his favorite movies. We have seen the movie many times but it has been years since I watched it.

I soon realized that I am not the same person I was when I last watched it because I cried through practically the entire movie. I know I have said that I am not religiously inclined and that I don’t like God very much but after watching this movie I realized that is not really the case.

I never read the Torah or the Old Testament, only bits and pieces of it, but now I am inspired to read it all, as soon as I have time. I also want to say that I now believe that Judaism laid the foundation for the religions that came later – Christianity, Islam, and the Baha'i Faith.

I have a whole new appreciation for Moses and the Jewish people and Judaism after watching this movie, so I guess it was a good thing our cable went out. :)

If anyone of the Jewish faith or anyone else wants to weigh in on how accurately the movie depicts the Jewish history I would be very happy to hear from them. How much of the movie was just Hollywood? Call me naive, but I believe that those miracles could have happened by the power of God.
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Ah yes! Cecil Beady Mill or however that goes!

Before there was Star Wars, there was Sword and Sandals.

So let it be written. So let it be done.
 
U

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Trailblazer said:
Our cable went out a couple of days ago so my husband went looking for movies and pulled the movie The Ten Commandments (1956) off the bookcase, which is one of his favorite movies. We have seen the movie many times but it has been years since I watched it.
I soon realized that I am not the same person I was when I last watched it because I cried through practically the entire movie. I know I have said that I am not religiously inclined and that I don’t like God very much but after watching this movie I realized that is not really the case.
I never read the Torah or the Old Testament, only bits and pieces of it, but now I am inspired to read it all, as soon as I have time. I also want to say that I now believe that Judaism laid the foundation for the religions that came later – Christianity, Islam, and the Baha'i Faith.
I have a whole new appreciation for Moses and the Jewish people and Judaism after watching this movie, so I guess it was a good thing our cable went out. :)
If anyone of the Jewish faith or anyone else wants to weigh in on how accurately the movie depicts the Jewish history I would be very happy to hear from them. How much of the movie was just Hollywood? Call me naive, but I believe that those miracles could have happened by the power of God.
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Bible mixed with Hollywood myth.
I was 11 years old when I first say the movie.
Still like it but now would follow along with the Bible.
One BIG difference is that Pharaoh did drown with his army - Exodus 15:1 B, Exodus 15:21 B - > Psalms 136:15
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
URAVIP2ME said:
Bible mixed with Hollywood myth.
I was 11 years old when I first say the movie.
Still like it but now would follow along with the Bible.
One BIG difference is that Pharaoh did drown with his army - Exodus 15:1 B, 21; Exodus 1:21 B- > Psalms 136:15
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Myth mixed with myth
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
URAVIP2ME said:
Result was: that the Israelites were set free from Egypt.
Egypt is Not a myth thing, The fact that Israel was in Egypt is Not a myth thing.
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We all know Egypt is resl.

There is zero evidence that "exodus "
Is anything but a myth, and, there is considerable
basis for saying it just a story.

The library device is called "magic realism ",
within a genre, " historical fiction".
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Audie said:
We all know Egypt is real.
There is zero evidence that "exodus "
Is anything but a myth, and, there is considerable
basis for saying it just a story...................
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Both Egypt is real and Israel is real, and Israel was in Egypt according to the Merneptah Stela.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
URAVIP2ME said:
Both Egypt is real and Israel is real, and Israel was in Egypt according to the Merneptah Stela.
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Stele, not stela.

It says zero about " Exodus".

By bringing that up you confirm
what I said. No evidence its
anything but a fairy tale.

Considerable evidence that its
Not historical. Chaining otherwise is bosh.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Trailblazer said:
Our cable went out a couple of days ago so my husband went looking for movies and pulled the movie The Ten Commandments (1956) off the bookcase, which is one of his favorite movies. We have seen the movie many times but it has been years since I watched it.


I soon realized that I am not the same person I was when I last watched it because I cried through practically the entire movie. I know I have said that I am not religiously inclined and that I don’t like God very much but after watching this movie I realized that is not really the case.

I never read the Torah or the Old Testament, only bits and pieces of it, but now I am inspired to read it all, as soon as I have time. I also want to say that I now believe that Judaism laid the foundation for the religions that came later – Christianity, Islam, and the Baha'i Faith.

I have a whole new appreciation for Moses and the Jewish people and Judaism after watching this movie, so I guess it was a good thing our cable went out. :)

If anyone of the Jewish faith or anyone else wants to weigh in on how accurately the movie depicts the Jewish history I would be very happy to hear from them. How much of the movie was just Hollywood? Call me naive, but I believe that those miracles could have happened by the power of God.
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have you seen the original black and white version?
by the same director
 
U

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Audie said:
Stele, not stela.
It says zero about " Exodus".
By bringing that up you confirm
what I said. No evidence its
anything but a fairy tale.
Considerable evidence that its
Not historical. Chaining otherwise is bosh.
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In the Cairo Museum in Egypt the granite 'Stela' is about Pharaoh Merneptah
'Israel is laid waste, and his seed is no more.'
Author Hershel Shanks uses the Merneptah 'Stele' to show that a people called Israel existed in 1212 BCE............
So, both are used: Stela and Stele.
An Archaeologist David Rohl wrote that some names of slaves leap straight out of the pages of the Bible.- Exodus 1:3-4,15
Absence of evidence is Not evidence of absence.
I am merely posting what the Bible teaches. Each chooses to accept or not.
To me the world scene today is evidence that what is written was and so the rest shall be.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
URAVIP2ME said:
In the Cairo Museum in Egypt the granite 'Stela' is about Pharaoh Merneptah
'Israel is laid waste, and his seed is no more.'
Author Hershel Shanks uses the Merneptah 'Stele' to show that a people called Israel existed in 1212 BCE............
So, both are used: Stela and Stele.
An Archaeologist David Rohl wrote that some names of slaves leap straight out of the pages of the Bible.- Exodus 1:3-4,15
Absence of evidence is Not evidence of absence.
I am merely posting what the Bible teaches. Each chooses to accept or not.
To me the world scene today is evidence that what is written was and so the rest shall be.
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You got the saying wrong. Absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence. In some cases it can be. If an event would leave evidence then absence of that evidence is evidence of absence. Archaeologists have claimed that the Exodus as described in the Bible would have left evidence. Its absence tells us that the event did not happen.
 
Ehav4Ever

Ehav4Ever

Well-Known Member
Trailblazer said:
If anyone of the Jewish faith or anyone else wants to weigh in on how accurately the movie depicts the Jewish history I would be very happy to hear from them. How much of the movie was just Hollywood?
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From a Jewish perspective, 100% Hollywood for the following reasons.
  1. Various aspects of the movie were "loosely" based on information found in Jewish texts such the Torah and midrashim, but I stress "loosely" based on them.
  2. The movie is inaccurate also according to currently known Egyptian history. For example, Rameses is never claimed by ancient Jewish sources to have been the Pharoah of the time period. Historically, it is known that this could not have been the case at all.
  3. The idea in the movie that Mosheh ben-Amram did not know his own family is contradicted by ancient Jewish sources that state that he did.
  4. The movie presents Moses going before Pharoah speaking directly to Pharoah himself and his brother Aharon just tagging along, the Torah and all Jewish sources claim the opposite. In fact, the Aramaic translation of the Torah states that Mosheh's brother Aharon spoke to Pharoah in the way a translator would.
  5. The method of dress that the movie paints for both Jews don't match Jewish sources. If member serves, the same is possible true for Egyptians.
  6. The speach patterns used are not equatable to how Jews have historically spoken Hebrew. I.e. I know the movie is in English but the mannorisms the actors use in the movie don't potray Jews from that period in history of latter.
  7. The movie has people just gingerly walking into Pharaoh's court. That doesn't make any historicall sense.
  8. Pharaoh calls a group of people who came to his court Beduins. Another historical issue.
  9. The Movie has Mosheh working with the enslaved Israelis. The Torah and Jewish sources state that the tribe of Levi did not do any of the work because they were keeping the 7 mitzvoth and also brith milah (circumcision) the entire time where the other Israeli tribes were not.
  10. According to the the Hebrew Torah Mosheh was commanded to go to the Elders of Israeli society at that time FIRST. The text, in Hebrew, explains that his brother Aharon spoke.
  11. The famouse "Let my people go" quote from the movie is not accurate to the Hebrew text. The Hebrew text states that what was said to Pharoah was (כה-אמר יהוה, אלהי ישראל, שלח את-עמי, ויחגו לי במדבר). This translates into, "Thus, says Hashem, mighty one of Israel, send my people, and they will celebrate to Me [Hashem] in the desert." To which the Hebrew text states that Pharaoh responded, (מי יהוה אשר אשמע בקלו, לשלח את-ישראל: לא ידעתי את-יהוה, וגם את-ישראל לא אשלח. ) which translated into, "Who is Hashem which I would listen to his voice, to send the Israelis? I don't know/intimate knowlege of Hashem, and also I will not send Israel."
    • Please note that this back and forth, according to Jewish sources, was taking place with a) Mosheh telling Aharon what to say, b) Aharon translating it to Pharoah, and c) Pharoah answering Aharon in the Egptian langauge of the time.
    • Further, the movie has Moses saying that man shall be ruled by law not by the will of other men. This statement doesn't make any sense as statement even in the context of what is being discussed, and is not found in the Hebrew text of the Torah.
  12. According to the Hebrew text, the turning of the staff into snakes did not take place during Mosheh and Aharon's first meeting with Pharoah. It happened during the second meeting. Further, it states that Aharon's staff ate the other staffs and not that the snake did it.
  13. Also, the movie has the kingdom of Troy sending a tribute to the Pharaoh. There is no such event mentioned in the Hebrew Torah and also historically
These are just a few of many inaccuraces the the movie has with the Hebrew text of the Torah and also with Jewish and and Egyptian history.

If you want to see a better representation of ancient Jewish culture here are a few videos that may help.


 
capumetu

capumetu

Active Member
Estro Felino said:
This movie is nothing but an artistic work.
A movie is supposed to be entertaining...that is why the writers invented the character of Nefertiri.
And the romance between her and Moses is central in the movie...

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I agree, although there are some Bible truths, and logically some who viewed it, were spiritually motivated to pursue learning more about God I would imagine.
 
capumetu

capumetu

Active Member
Subduction Zone said:
The movie version is just as true as the biblical version. Don't put too much value on the story itself since at best it is a morality tale.
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I seriously doubt that sir, but at any rate, all is just opinion now. Jehovah prophesied, the nations will have to know I am Jehovah, we believe that prophecy will be fulfilled soon.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
capumetu said:
I seriously doubt that sir, but at any rate, all is just opinion now. Jehovah prophesied, the nations will have to know I am Jehovah, we believe that prophecy will be fulfilled soon.
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Why would you doubt that? And no, I have more than opinion on my side. Exodus and Genesis can only refute the Bible if one interprets the book literally.
 
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