Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Like that of the ancient Roman and Greek pantheon of gods. Christianity has its own spot reserved there.
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USA Nones now 26%, says Pew
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Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
But strangely they fall for make believe when It comes to politics and pseudoscience.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Weird, how different the figures are between the US and UK. "Weird" is about a profound an insight as I can come up with.
Being or not being part of a religion is not necessarily strongly correlated with belief in Divinity/God. The survey did not ask the "spiritual but not religious" question nor a question about belief in God/Divinity/Higher Power so the results are to me incomplete.
Only the humans, not everyone else.
Sure. The survey also didn't try to figure out how many people answered "none" because they're apathetic to religion and just haven't given it much thought.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
That seems an odd question.
It really depends on where you're at and what minority group is referenced. Like having no god, being Luciferian, and being transgender, in Indiana small minded bigots make life miserable. In California no one cares.
Being one of the few or only white people in a room, I'll admit at first hearing Spanish did provoke feelings of homesickness for a couple months, but now I think nothing of it.
How does it feel to be a part of a shrinking majority?
Both are true. Atheism is gaining ground, as well as generally unaffiliated spirituality or theism.
Only white person in the room?
Welcome to 40+ years of my family gatherings.
But they do pleasantly tolerate the lone bai yang guizi.
Of course, to be a doctor & work for government is best.
(One family shamed a son for being just an engineer.)
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Reality is much harder to take and digest.
Not as comfortable as having rose glasses and stain glass to serve as a security blanket.
Only problem is people will never be able to properly adjust if they continue holding on to a false sense of security that exists only in the realm of the mind.
PureX
Veteran Member
Atheism is still such a small percentage of humanity that it's "gaining ground" could be nothing more than an increase in population overall. The losses among Christian religious sects, however, represent a LOT of human beings. But those humans beings are not becoming atheists in any appreciable number. They are simply severing their self-identified connection with organized religion.
I see both good and bad in this. Good in that they are now free to contemplate the ideal of "God" for themselves, and to establish in ideal that makes sense to them, personally, and in the course of their lives. But bad in the sense that without the input of religiosity, some may neglect the conceptual 'God option' entirely, or almost entirely. And I don't believe that such thoughtlessness is a positive course of action for anyone to take, about nearly anything. Especially something as significant as a god-ideal.
Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
"None" do not only mean being an atheist or agnostic
"None" is also everyone describes themselves as "spiritual but not religious". Or people who believe in God but do not belong to a spesific religion
So very many of the "none" actually believe in God
"None" is also everyone describes themselves as "spiritual but not religious". Or people who believe in God but do not belong to a spesific religion
So very many of the "none" actually believe in God
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Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
"None" do not only mean being an atheist or agnostic
"None" is also everyone describes themselves as "spiritual but not religious". Or people who believe in God but do not belong to a spesific religion
So very many of the "none" actually believe in God
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Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Agree with you. Very many of the "none" is people who is "spiritual but not religious" and people who believe in a God/higher power but not in a spesific religion.
So the results is incomplete. The majority of "none" is actually believers in God
I'm sorry, but that is incorrect. The actual percantage of the population that identifies as atheist has increased. The increase has been small, no doubt, but it is an increase nonetheless.
None of this has anything to do with whether or not theism is correct or useful, of course.
As one of those people, who also knows quite a few of these people in my personal life, I think I have some inside understanding of the phenomenon here. The truth is, many of these Nones simply see no need for religion or spirituality in their lives at all. It just doesn't enter into their day to day life or what's important to them at all. So they don't actively identify as "atheists," but they are functionally secular people with little to no spirituality at all.
I think god-concepts are important to some people, and not others. I don't see a need for a god-concept, in order to be happy, live an ethical life, experience love, or hell, even to be spiritual or religious. But from a theistic perspective I can understand how it might worry you.
No. Even if it were the case that these have "fallen out of fashion" each of these is not the same as the other. Conflating them with one another is generally a sign of cultural/religious/theological illiteracy. Horses have "fallen out of fashion" as a method of transportation but nobody would mistake a car for a horse, and being an auto mechanic is very different than being an equestrian.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Didn't happen often to me in Indiana. Pretty much just carpooling for work and visiting the house of someone who's black.
It become a more regular thing in California.