Is the christian bible God's word?

If God used words then males as humans claim God is a man.

Animals don't speak.

Science claims it is human intelligence.

An ape closest life does not speak.

A man...a human speaks. Uses words for human reasons.

Science he claims is his reason.

And he lied.

Reason is natural and not science.

Discussing God is discussing science belief by human conditions.

About everything other than a human.

When you quote God we know we don't mean human.

When we say nothing...then we mean it.

When you ask human motivation what it gains from science. Being rich and powerful is that status.

If a human says God is a spirit. Then they meant it.

Which owns a description and a story just about God. And not any human.

Science does not tell that story.

Meandflower said:

Do you agree with the bible or not?

I do not believe the whole Bible is God's word. So I disagree with many things in the bible. Do you believe the whole bible is God's word?

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I agree, bibles were written by men hundreds of years after Jesus, peace be upon him

Another way to infer information.

A man in science says everything allowed me to exist

Yet I am not anything but a human.

My proof I survive only for a hundred years

Knowing he is not mass in space how energy formed.

He is not space the nothing.

But his psyche says I do become nothing eventually as thinking consciously about human presence. Form.

Must've been too difficult for a mind to express life then die. Who wanted to be everything. But face a truth about what being human in creation meant.

URAVIP2ME said:

Yes, adultery could be a married person just having sex outside of marriage.

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It's not that it "could be"-- that's what it is.

URAVIP2ME said:

Whereas, Jesus using the word ' fornication' instead of just the word adultery would include more than just extra-marital sex because fornication ( porneia ) includes un-natural sex, even sex with an animal would be fornication / proneia. as being scriptural grounds for divorce - Matthew 19:9; Matthew 5:32

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Depends on which modern Bible one uses, as today's dictionaries generally refer to it as being consensual sex: "Voluntary sexual intercourse between two unmarried persons or two persons not married to each other"-- Definition of fornication | Dictionary.com.

The difference is important because adultery in the Tanakh was punishable by death [maximum penalty] but not so with consensual "fornication".

Gargovic Malkav said:

I believe the Bible to be a book that can explain God's ways.
Some call that book God's word, but I also consider it God's word that the chair I'm sitting on retains the properties of a chair and doesn't randomly disappear or turn into a cloud of toxic gas or an Eiffel tower.

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Atheists, also sensing the brimstone, would have a different interpretation, despite the obvious whispers of Satan.

Meandflower said:

Is the christian Bible God's word?

If thats true.. Then divorce is bad.. many "modern" things is bad.. Are those who do not follow the Bible lost? Do God want us to follow the bible and dislike it if we don't? even though we are kind to other people?

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Modern Christians cherry-pick abortion and Gays, ignoring divorce and other taboos.

Among many versions of the modern Christian bibles, each slightly differing, we would have to pick one true version. Then ask ourselves if that bible is true, among the various religions of the world. Perhaps all religions worship the same God, and each has its own partially true version? Maybe by studying all, one could gain a greater understanding of God?

Logically, one should study the earliest bible, before kings and popes changed it.

Clara Tea said:

Atheists, also sensing the brimstone, would have a different interpretation, despite the obvious whispers of Satan.

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You seem to be one of the more eccentric ones on this forum.
I wonder what your story is.
And by the way, are you sure you can speak for all atheists?

PureX said:

Faith is not the absence by denial of doubt. Faith is choosing to live according to an ideal that one hopes to be true, in the face (recognition) of doubt.

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Faith is different for everyone. For some people it is the absence of doubt. I have no doubt that God exists, although I have some doubts about the attributes some religious people say that God has.

PureX said:

The absence of doubt, by it's denial, is an act of hubris, and pretense; not faith. And this is a course of action that lead men to disastrous ends.

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The absence of doubt is absolute certitude. I see no reason to judge people who have it. You cannot know that someone is pretending because you cannot know what is in another person's mind. Moreover, absolute certitude that God exists is what leads people to selfless acts of sacrifice for God and their fellow man.

God does not want us to doubt that He exists. It makes no sense that God would want us to doubt His existence given what God has asked us to do, sacrificing our lives in the path of service.

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who approaches Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him.

Subduction Zone said:

No, it didn't. It does not say that at a.. Where on Earth did you get that idea from? What is wrong is getting remarried if you get divorced. Of course that is silly too. That tells us that the Bible is not the word of God.

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somewhere... I missed your logic.

Subduction Zone said:

No, it didn't. It does not say that at a.. Where on Earth did you get that idea from? What is wrong is getting remarried if you get divorced. Of course that is silly too. That tells us that the Bible is not the word of God.

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Hang on, hang on. I am quoting what the bible says.
That's where I "got the idea from".

Trailblazer said:

Faith is different for everyone. For some people it is the absence of doubt. I have no doubt that God exists, although I have some doubts about the attributes some religious people say that God has.

The absence of doubt is absolute certitude. I see no reason to judge people who have it. You cannot know that someone is pretending because you cannot know what is in another person's mind. Moreover, absolute certitude that God exists is what leads people to selfless acts of sacrifice for God and their fellow man.

God does not want us to doubt that He exists. It makes no sense that God would want us to doubt His existence given what God has asked us to do, sacrificing our lives in the path of service.

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who approaches Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him.

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What our human spiritual father taught my life

Father mother we baby adults were told to honour.

Life human.

Said God owned creation and meant it.

God was all form and all spirit gases.

Released sacrificed eternal spirit was now God in space as gods.

We live on earth God.

Language of spirit trapped inside of gods O burnt. It once was an eternal spirit language.

Father adult man male invented science against God.

To burn God that had already suffered in hell an evil choice.

Father said we humans once we're healthier and perfect as humans.

Gave half our water bio mass microbes to angels forming.

They are real beings ver close to us.

Science then continued to burn sacrifice the angels in heavens.

They fell by science became evil.

Exactly the teaching...man did evil.

We suffered for it.

Angels then owned our life protection.

Too many human experienced contest science claim that it is not real.

They even use technology to speak to them proving human invention caused it.

What liars you are in reality scientists.

PruePhillip said:

Hang on, hang on. I am quoting what the bible says.
That's where I "got the idea from".

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And you are ignoring half of your quote. That is why you are wrong.

The natural O God cross.

Four seasons.

Summer really hot the win.....winter ice.

Two wings of the cross.

+
Secret science a cross means addition.

Addition gas heavens evolution.

Ice allowed heavens gas water to cool evolve.

Baby born about human life... babies born mutated. Statement assessment said stable animal DNA human life ice returned the win of the cross+

Relativity of life with God.
Cross evaluation ring LLLL forms symbol+ cross. Angel in science wing L of addition evolution.

DNA healing by evolution conditions in heavens known.

O God earth only expressed two seasons in opposition. Not four.

Summer winter radiation hottest ice won.

Base science on hottest ice melted.
It was known.

Season middle body on cross. Newly returned spring from loss autumn.

New life.

2 angel warning of God cross.

The REAL story.

Not balanced

Erupted tectonic plate...volcanic.

Carpenter secret meaning tectonic. Statement science caused it.

Life stigmata irradiated died. As earth mass changed by heart core release. On the cross body of two seasons.

A holy season the life return. Spring body.

Heavens gases went dark.

Vacuum holy mother womb effect.

Took body of sacrifice down from its irradiated crossing. Spring return was attacked. Evidence witnessed.

UFO then came back in made daylight return from heated vacuum. After day lost light. We live by day light. Gases sacrificed burning.

Was witnessed.

It really happened.

Meanwhile human man who was told by his own self not to rebuild temple science was proven the liar he is as ie a written example revelations.

Ie. Of he or je meant Sus the example. What previous EL power God had caused.

Example Sus. Nose point mountain. Pyramid fake mountain technology.

Sanskrit old thinking God of wild boar reference to old attack retold story of UFO effect. About three beast effect.

Never rebuilt any mountain by building a pyramid.

A liar. Yet it is what he theoried copying.

Man life attacked as God O earth owned cross of seasons first.

Science theorised about gas changes caused the attack...mass as no man is God. All science taken out of God mass.

Subduction Zone said:

And you are ignoring half of your quote. That is why you are wrong.

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Remarriage is not "adultery" in our society. In fact I suspect the word "adultery" will quietly
vanish, like "living in sin" and "spinster" have vanished. And soon, "drug addict" might go
as well. "Gambling" becoming "gaming" is another one.
But if you claim to live by the teaching of the Gospel then your remarriage could very well
be classified as "adultery", so long as you yourself were not "adulted" beforehand.

PruePhillip said:

Remarriage is not "adultery" in our society. In fact I suspect the word "adultery" will quietly
vanish, like "living in sin" and "spinster" have vanished. And soon, "drug addict" might go
as well. "Gambling" becoming "gaming" is another one.
But if you claim to live by the teaching of the Gospel then your remarriage could very well
be classified as "adultery", so long as you yourself were not "adulted" beforehand.

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Human life.

Paired for life continuance.

Claimed righteous by its natural DNA conditions.

Owns no argument.

God O earth. Spirit heavens natural. Life about continuance due to evolution as a law.

Development by change.

Natural law therefore stated life continuance was due to healing hence expected conscious expression development to heal.

Law stated no baby child human was ever guilty.

Consciousness body status evolved as body in womb developed.

Consciousness lost its presence due to machine AI subliminal interference.

So a man became behind his man conscious life. Due to introducing machine AI recording.

How it was taught life of a child who becomes an adult is not guilty of their conscious displaced feelings. Due to the AI effect. Satanic.

Science introduced was not a consensus agreement.

Why we are not spiritually wrong.
Father said so.

PruePhillip said:

Remarriage is not "adultery" in our society. In fact I suspect the word "adultery" will quietly
vanish, like "living in sin" and "spinster" have vanished. And soon, "drug addict" might go
as well. "Gambling" becoming "gaming" is another one.
But if you claim to live by the teaching of the Gospel then your remarriage could very well
be classified as "adultery", so long as you yourself were not "adulted" beforehand.

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Good, you finally see it. You claimed the Bible said divorce was wrong. That was not the case. It only claims that remarriage after divorce was adultery which it claims to be wrong. And adultery is seen as a crime in the Bible because a woman was considered to be property. A husband could be a victim of adultery, but never was a wife thought to be a victim.

Subduction Zone said:

Good, you finally see it. You claimed the Bible said divorce was wrong. That was not the case. It only claims that remarriage after divorce was adultery which it claims to be wrong. And adultery is seen as a crime in the Bible because a woman was considered to be property. A husband could be a victim of adultery, but never was a wife thought to be a victim.

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Ah, not quite. But sure, I accept the thrust of your argument.
It's subtle. Divorce was permitted in the Old Testament --- but (and there's always
a but) Jesus said this permission was granted because of what the Jews wanted
(you see that in all the odd commandments in the bible.)
Jesus said, "From the beginning this was not so..."
So yes, according to New Testament teachings, divorce is frowned upon - aka
'wrong.' And I think if a man divorces his wife and remarries HE is committing
adultery. But I haven't looked this up.

PruePhillip said:

Ah, not quite. But sure, I accept the thrust of your argument.
It's subtle. Divorce was permitted in the Old Testament --- but (and there's always
a but) Jesus said this permission was granted because of what the Jews wanted
(you see that in all the odd commandments in the bible.)
Jesus said, "From the beginning this was not so..."
So yes, according to New Testament teachings, divorce is frowned upon - aka
'wrong.' And I think if a man divorces his wife and remarries HE is committing
adultery. But I haven't looked this up.

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It is a big jump to go from frowned upon to wrong. And yes, the by had some different beliefs back then. But those were more driven by economics largely rather than by what was right or wrong.

Meandflower said:

Is the christian Bible God's word?

If thats true.. Then divorce is bad.. many "modern" things is bad.. Are those who do not follow the Bible lost? ...

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I believe Bible has God’s will written it and it means for example that divorce is not good. But, I don’t think anyone is yet lost. As long as we are still living, there is chance to repent and become righteous.

Clara Tea said:

Modern Christians cherry-pick abortion and Gays, ignoring divorce and other taboos.

Among many versions of the modern Christian bibles, each slightly differing, we would have to pick one true version. Then ask ourselves if that bible is true, among the various religions of the world. Perhaps all religions worship the same God, and each has its own partially true version? Maybe by studying all, one could gain a greater understanding of God?

Logically, one should study the earliest bible, before kings and popes changed it.

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In examining any text, theory, testimony etc,
to determine its validity we cross check
it against outside sources.

How consistently does the Bible stand
up to such scrutiny?