Do you really see all muslims as evil people?

danieldemol · Jan 19, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?

1. No
2. No
3. I know enough to know that you only need a sizeable enough minority of wicked people to get away with a whole lot of killing and oppression, and that most of the oppression in Islam in my opinion comes from hadith which in my opinion can't be disproven without a historical Muhammad to use as a yardstick for refutation of the hadith in question.

As to the extent to which I believe mainstream media sources about Islam - I would have to say that mainstream media as opposed to fringe media is in my opinion usually able to back up the claims in their news reports with evidence, so I would encourage you to take the time to question their sources rather than dismiss them out of hand without adequate investigation.

Secret Chief · Jan 19, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?

No.

Conscious thoughts said:
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?

No.

Conscious thoughts said:
3. How much do you actually know about Islam?

Very little.

Conscious thoughts said:
And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?

You presumably don't actually mean what you've said, do you? Given Islam is more than a thousand years old, it's not "news." You mean coverage of news that may have an "angle" involving Islam. Given I think you mean that then it comes down to my general trust in the news organisation concerned. With "serious" news I tend to check a minimum of two sources. Obviously some sources I trust a great deal more (or less) than others. For example, The Daily Mail and Daily Express I wouldn't trust if it reported what 2 plus 2 equalled. I assume all news organisations have some sort of bias, one just has to try to keep that in mind in judging the story's content.

oldbadger · Jan 19, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.
I was wondering.

OK..... ask away.... :

1. Do you see every muslims as evil?

No.

2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?

No

3. How much do you actually know about Islam?

A bit. I actually know a bit about Islam.

And how much do you listen to news organizations......

Every Day.

.......and believe their covetage of islam?

I don't believe everything that I hear.
I believe some reports.

SalixIncendium · Jan 19, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?

No.

Conscious thoughts said:
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?

No.

Conscious thoughts said:
3. How much do you actually know about Islam?

Quite honestly, I've never picked up the Quran. I should read it at some point to gain a better understanding. What I know of Islam was mostly done through web browsing and what I've learned here.

Conscious thoughts said:
And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?

As far as the media goes, I rarely will take what one outlet says at face value. I tend to look at other outlets as well to corroborate or validate what I've heard.

That said, there are Muslim extremists that have carried out atrocities in the name of Islam, but I don't believe mainstream Islam condones these.

VoidCat · Jan 19, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?

1.no
2.no
3.Ive read the Qur'an and a few other books. That's about it.I don't watch the news much. My grandmother watched fox all the time until she started believing it to be too liberal. Waaay biased towards the right.I don't trust Fox News on anyhing. Drums up too much fear.

exchemist · Jan 19, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
I can only speak for my understanding
Not speak for other muslims

Well exactly. So we can't rely on you 100% as an authority on muslim teaching - though you may be very learned, I don't know. We may be better off consulting an encyclopaedia or a book by a recognised scholar of Islam.

blü 2 · Jan 19, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?

No, no and a little bit. I don't read Al Jazirah, but that's because I get my news elsewhere.

Spirit of Light · Jan 19, 2021

Secret Chief said:
No.

No.

Very little.

You presumably don't actually mean what you've said, do you? Given Islam is more than a thousand years old, it's not "news." You mean coverage of news that may have an "angle" involving Islam. Given I think you mean that then it comes down to my general trust in the news organisation concerned. With "serious" news I tend to check a minimum of two sources. Obviously some sources I trust a great deal more (or less) than others. For example, The Daily Mail and Daily Express I wouldn't trust if it reported what 2 plus 2 equalled. I assume all news organisations have some sort of bias, one just has to try to keep that in mind in judging the story's content.

Personally i see it as only teaching of the quran, hadith, sunnah is what islam actually teach. I dont listen to news on TV or newspaper

Estro Felino · Jan 19, 2021

At college campus my greatest friends were all from Arabic-speaking countries...so...

We never talked about religion. But we knew we were of different religions.
And not to mention that I live in a district where people of several religions are. All wonderful altruistic people.

firedragon · Jan 19, 2021

exchemist said:
Personally I would love to see more authority in the teaching of Islam. Compared, at least, to traditional Christianity,

What do you mean by "traditional christianity"? You mean the papacy and the Roman Catholicism?

firedragon · Jan 19, 2021

danieldemol said:
I would have to say that mainstream media as opposed to fringe media is in my opinion usually able to back up the claims in their news reports with evidence,

Can you give an example to understand what you are speaking about?

Unveiled Artist · Jan 19, 2021

No.
No.

I've only talked with one muslim who he and I had a good conversation. I don't watch the news (no tv) and don't have interest in news unless it's covid where I must keep up to date.

911 event in the states cause (rather than caused) a lot of tention and stereotypes. You'd be surprised how much people believe here. I've always had a huge red flag and pet peeve over people being talked down to. So, no.

If I knew more about islam I'd probably share similar sentiments of their religion as I do christianity since they are both abrahamic. But nothing to do with the people just the theology. I think many muslims don't talk to americans strangers much cause of stereotypes. It's sad, but overall no.

Despite the stereotypes americans are nice people. Depends on where one is from in the states not our citizenship.

Audie · Jan 19, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
Thank you for answering
You really think a newspaper know what islam truly teach us? They must be muslims them selvs to know the true teaching, right?

The " true" teaching is a bit of a chimera.

The boys of 911 had their vision.
We are well aware of deadly entities within
Islam.
Who knows how many competing real true versions.

Christianity is like that too, probably more
splintered.

We see some harsh words translated out of both
religious "holy" books and some very harsh action
by those who take their inerrant reading seriously.

If some outside of the faith take a dim view of Islam, sorry,
but, you guys earned it. Atrocities in the
practice of the religion are commonplace.

I used to, before I moved, have a Islamic doctor.
She was wonderful.

Fools will stereotype by race, religion, whatever.

Its a two fold problem, the bad image of islam.

You cannot expect to educate everyone tp the subtleties
of islam, ever- and yoy can't expect to even make much
of a start while the bombs keep going off.

loverofhumanity · Jan 19, 2021

Muslims are equal fellow human beings and should be treated as such. Any attempt to paint them all with one negative brush is pure fantasy and prejudice.

ChristineM · Jan 19, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?

1 no
2 no
3a quite a bit for a none muslim, i have muslim friends and we talk. Having said that they are not what i would consider muslims first but people who happen to be muslim.
3b i listen to french news that doesnt have the same priorities as Sky or the BBC

Audie · Jan 19, 2021

loverofhumanity said:
Muslims are equal fellow human beings and should be treated as such. Any attempt to paint them all with one negative brush is pure fantasy and prejudice.

Good advice for our religionionistas
who are so fond of attacking atheists.
See various threads here, for examples,
say, the current one with atheists credited with
mass murder all through the 20th century.

Any idea of whivh Islamic nation would be a
safe place for a person to say he is Christian,
Jew, or atheist? (Hint: not all of then)

SalixIncendium · Jan 19, 2021

I’m just throwing it out there that I live in community with a large Muslim population. I’ve been here 3 years. No acts of terrorism.

I even get my hair cut by a Muslim barber and not once has he tried to decapitate me with his sharp scissors.

Audie · Jan 19, 2021

SalixIncendium said:
I’m just throwing it out there that I live in community with a large Muslim population. I’ve been here 3 years. No acts of terrorism.

I even get my hair cut by a Muslim barber and not once has he tried to decapitate me with his sharp scissors.

And my doctor never tried to kill
me either! Weird.

exchemist · Jan 19, 2021

firedragon said:
What do you mean by "traditional christianity"? You mean the papacy and the Roman Catholicism?

Pre-Reformation Christianity (which encompasses a lot more than just Catholicism), plus denominations such as Anglicans and Episcopalians - even Methodist - that retain figures responsible for doctrinal authority. In other words people one can look to, for dealing with questions on what that branch of the faith officially believes.

Secret Chief · Jan 19, 2021

Conscious thoughts said:
Personally i see it as only teaching of the quran, hadith, sunnah is what islam actually teach. I dont listen to news on TV or newspaper

Of course those are the original sources that I would refer to, if I was interested in the religion itself, as opposed to news of events.

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