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Do you really see all muslims as evil people?

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?
1. No
2. No
3. As an atheist I have a knowledge of Islam, I have not read the books. I trust the likes of The Guardian to give balanced views of Islam
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
1. No
2. No
3. As an atheist I have a knowledge of Islam, I have not read the books. I trust the likes of The Guardian to give balanced views of Islam
Thank you for answering:)
You really think a newspaper know what islam truly teach us? They must be muslims them selvs to know the true teaching, right?
 

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
Not at all

Like with all populations there are some evil people, of course, but most Moslems are good people who just want to get on with their lives

2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
No!

3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?
I know a bit about it, I understand what it's all about

The secondary school I went to was 95% Pakistani Moslems so to me Moslems aren't a strange people

I used to have Moslem as my best friend

Until he told me that he hates homosexuals and wants them exterminated

Because of this I put him in the friendship bin

He'd shown his true colours
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Thank you for answering:)
You really think a newspaper know what islam truly teach us? They must be muslims them selvs to know the true teaching, right?
I'm sure it doesn't but I'm interested in Muslim's interaction with the non-Muslim world.
I see good things, I see bad things (I live in Manchester 21st May will remain with us for all the wrong reasons)
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?

1/ No

2/ No

3/ I follow a faith that originated from Islam and acknowledge the Quran as being the Word of God and Muhammad as God’s Messenger. I see the different sides of Islam, positive and negative.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I'm sure it doesn't but I'm interested in Muslim's interaction with the non-Muslim world.
I see good things, I see bad things (I live in Manchester 21st May will remain with us for all the wrong reasons)
As a convert in to islam, i understand your view here. Honestly those extremists worry me too. And my view is that Extreme version of islam is wrong practice
1/ No

2/ No

3/ I follow a faith that originated from Islam and acknowledge the Quran as being the Word of God and Muhammad as God’s Messenger. I see the different sides of Islam, positive and negative.
I agree with you on on this :)
Unfortunatly islam has a history of voilance. But i dont believe it is the teaching that is bad. Some muslims have become wicced
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Thank you for answering:)
You really think a newspaper know what islam truly teach us? They must be muslims them selvs to know the true teaching, right?
But that poses a problem immediately. There are many strands of Islam, just as there are of Christianity. So who do you trust to be impartial? The best sources are ones that do not have any "agenda" of their own to push. These may not necessarily be religious sources.

Personally I would love to see more authority in the teaching of Islam. Compared, at least, to traditional Christianity, Islam seems to be a very decentralised faith, with little in the way of any hierarchy or generally recognised doctrinal authority. That would seem to leave the way open for any different versions, or interpretations, of the religion, possibly causing confusion - as can happen with extreme Christian Protestants, for the same reason.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
I used to have Moslem as my best friend

Until he told me that he hates homosexuals and wants them exterminated

Because of this I put him in the friendship bin

He'd shown his true colours

He was your best friend and you could not accept this one flaw?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
But that poses a problem immediately. There are many strands of Islam, just as there are of Christianity. So who do you trust to be impartial? The best sources are ones that do not have any "agenda" of their own to push. These may not necessarily be religious sources.

Personally I would love to see more authority in the teaching of Islam. Compared, at least, to traditional Christianity, Islam seems to be a very decentralised faith, with little in the way of any hierarchy or generally recognised doctrinal authority. That would seem to leave the way open for any different versions, or interpretations, of the religion, possibly causing confusion - as can happen with extreme Christian Protestants, for the same reason.
I can only speak for my understanding
Not speak for other muslims
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Thank you for answering:)
You really think a newspaper know what islam truly teach us? They must be muslims them selvs to know the true teaching, right?
They have many articles by Muslims to give their views on whatever. The Guardian may seem too left-wing for many but it generally comes across as more reasonably fair in most things - which is why (apart from others insisting on me seeing their adverts) I don't look at the more extreme examples of left or right - regardless of how they depict any religion.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?

No, but I do see certain Muslim sects as being exceedingly evil.

Particularly Wahhabi Islam.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
And in answer to the OP, no, no, and I have enough understanding to place Islam amongst all the other faiths (as to basic tenets and teaching), even if I have no detailed knowledge of the Quran or of the various Hadiths. I do have a copy of the Quran, but have as much motivation to study the religion as I have for all others, and that being not very much. :oops: And I do try to be unbiased when assessing any piece of news concerning any religion - given that I have no belief in any of them.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Thank you for answering:)
You really think a newspaper know what islam truly teach us? They must be muslims them selvs to know the true teaching, right?
No, one does not need to be a Muslim to "know the true teaching". This is a problem with any religion. There appears to be no true teaching. That is why all major religions have multiple sects. There is no reason that a non-Muslim cannot fairly report on Islam. In fact a non-Muslim will likely be more accurate and fair in many cases. And yes, I do admit that non-Muslims may also report unfairly. There is no guarantee that anyone will report 100% accurately.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I should answer the questions of the OP

Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?


1. No. Most Muslims are not evil. Though some allow evil acts due to their faith.

2. No. Terrorists are the minority of any group. I do not see Republicans as terrorists either though the acts of January 6th in Washington DC indicate that some Republicans can be terrorists too. Can Muslims be terrorists? Of course, but the same applies to any other group.

3. Not that much. I don't listen to news coverage of Islam itself, but there are many news stories that involve Muslims. One must learn how and when to separate the acts of individuals from the religion. Sadly the religion itself appears to be at fault for the various countries with laws against "insulting Islam". If there is any truth to Islam it cannot be "insulted". By reacting violently against perceived insults the believers state their beliefs to be false.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
I'm homosexual myself but he didn't know

So no, I couldn't be friends with someone who hates what I am

Is that what you are, and only that? Is that all that you are? Obviously not, otherwise you would not have been best friends with a person who hated homosexuals.

Best friends see something in each other that is deeply valued and respected. If he didn’t know about your homosexuality, then he valued and respected something else about you. Something else that defines you. Homosexuality is not all that you are. It’s just one small characteristic. A flaw, in his eyes, just as his cultural perspective about homosexuality is a flaw to you. I think if you both had overlooked these “flaws” in each other, and focused more on why you value and respect one other, your friendship might have possibly survived.

Or maybe I am wrong, and it was all beyond repair. Within the realm of possibility however I think that is unlikely. Who knows how you both could have influenced each other’s worldviews.

Either way. Take it from someone with a history of leaving amazing people behind. Best friends are overrated. You are probably better off for it.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?

1. No.
2. No. There are almost 2 Billion Muslims in the world. Can you imagine what the world would look like if they were all terrorists?
3. I don't know a great deal about Islam, though I'd tentatively say I know more than the majority of non-Muslims in my country. Let that sink in for a moment.

As far as news coverage goes, I tend to be particularly cautious when it comes to negative stories about Muslims. A good chunk of UK media is notorious for its willingness to misrepresent or outright fabricate news and Muslims are often viewed as an acceptable punching bag. If there's a violent crime involving Muslims, you can be sure they'll point out that the perpetrators are Muslims even when their religion has nothing to do with the crime. You don't see that done with Christians.
 

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
Knowing that some people in RF does not have a good view on muslims.

I was wondering.
1. Do you see every muslims as evil?
2. Do you see every muslim ad a terrorist?
3. How much do you actually know about Islam? And how much do you listen to news organizations and believe their covetage of islam?

1. No.
2. No
3. A bit. But am not motivated to do so because it is convoluted. I hear that sufism is pretty interesting though. I don't often listen to news organizations. I used to be into Christian apologetics at one stage, listening to David Wood and other muslim debates. It isn't easy to get the proper information from opposers or followers IMO.
 
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