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Original Sin?

capumetu

Active Member
And what is one's source, please? Kindly quote from Moses where he claimed to author, write and pen "Genesis", please. Right friend, please?

Regards

Most scholars of the Bible believe Moses penned Genesis. Was he a Bible writer? Yes! Notice what Jehovah said to him:
(Exodus 17:14) . . .Jehovah now said to Moses: “Write this as a memorial in the book and repeat it to Joshua. . .
 

capumetu

Active Member
Joseph became husband after when innocent Mary was already pregnant, please. Right friend, please?

Regards
Yes sir, that is correct. In those days however among Jehovah's people, we looked at those betrothed as already married:
(Matthew 1:18, 19) . . .this is how the birth of Jesus Christ took place. During the time his mother Mary was promised in marriage to Joseph, she was found to be pregnant by holy spirit before they were united. 19 However, because her husband Joseph was righteous and did not want to make her a public spectacle, he intended to divorce her secretly.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Yes sir, that is correct. In those days however among Jehovah's people, we looked at those betrothed as already married:
(Matthew 1:18, 19) . . .this is how the birth of Jesus Christ took place. During the time his mother Mary was promised in marriage to Joseph, she was found to be pregnant by holy spirit before they were united. 19 However, because her husband Joseph was righteous and did not want to make her a public spectacle, he intended to divorce her secretly.

Magenta refers ^.
Does one mean from the Jehovah's people the Judaism people, as there were no Christianity people at that time. The Christian came to exist after when sinful Paul was sure that innocent Jesus had gone out of Judea, out of the hands of the then Jews and the Romans, please. Right friend, please?

Regards
 

capumetu

Active Member
Magenta refers ^.
Does one mean from the Jehovah's people the Judaism people, as there were no Christianity people at that time. The Christian came to exist after when sinful Paul was sure that innocent Jesus had gone out of Judea, out of the hands of the then Jews and the Romans, please. Right friend, please?

Regards
Yes sir you are quite correct, Christianity started after Jesus' return to heaven, although Jesus made the covenant with his faithful 11 on the day of his death. Jehovah accepted it and put it into force by anointing those present in an upper room on Pentecost of the year 33 CE
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Yes sir you are quite correct, Christianity started after Jesus' return to heaven, although Jesus made the covenant with his faithful 11 on the day of his death. Jehovah accepted it and put it into force by anointing those present in an upper room on Pentecost of the year 33 CE
Kindly quote from Jesus in this connection and please don't make-up things like sinful Paul did against the good teachings of the innocent Jesus. Right, please?

Regards
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Yet, I understand, it does not contain the true teachings of Jesus and or Moses rather it propagates the teaching of the Anti-Christ* or Dajjal in the world, please. Right friend, please?

Regards
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*#82
No please.
Where did you get that idea from?

Quran is the most read and memorized book in the world, I figure. Right, please?
Regards
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The all-time most popular books in the world revealed
  1. Most popular books of all time The Koran – three billion copies sold
  2. The King James Bible – 2.5bn
  3. Quotations From Chairman Mao Tse-tung, Mao Zedong – 800m
  4. Don Quixote, Miguel de Cervantes – 500m
  5. Harry Potter series, JK Rowling – 450m
  6. A Tale Of Two Cities, Charles Dickens – 200m
  7. The Lord Of The Rings, JRR Tolkien – 150m
  8. Le Petit Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry – 140m
  9. Alice In Wonderland, Lewis Carroll – 100m
  10. Dream Of The Red Chamber, Cao Xueqin – 100m
  11. And Then There Were None, Agatha Christie – 100m
  12. The Hobbit, JRR Tolkein – 100m
  13. She: A History Of Adventure, H.Rider Haggard – 83m
  14. The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe, CS Lewis – 85m
  15. The Da Vinci Code, Dan Brown – 80m
  16. The Catcher In The Rye, JD Salinger – 65m
  17. The Adventures Of Sherlock Holmes, Arthur Conan Doyle – 60m
  18. Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea, Jules Verne, 60m
  19. Millennium Trilogy, Stieg Larsson – 50m
  20. Watership Down, Richard Adams – 50m
  21. Odyssey, Homer – 45m
  22. The Very Hungry Caterpillar, Eric Carle – 30m
  23. To Kill A Mockingbird, Harper Lee – 30m
  24. Gone With The Wind, Margaret Mitchell – 30m
  25. Nineteen Eighty-Four, George Orwell – 25m
  26. The Great Gatsby, F Scott Fitzgerald – 25m
  27. The Adventures Of Huckleberry Finn, Mark Twain – 20m
  28. Anderson’s Fairy Tales, Hans Christian Anderson – 20m
  29. Pride And Prejudice, Jane Austen – 20m
  30. Robinson Crusoe, Daniel Defoe – 9m
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https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction
Although it is impossible to obtain exact figures, there is little doubt that the Bible is the world's best-selling and most widely distributed book. A survey by the Bible Society concluded that around 2.5 billion copies were printed between 1815 and 1975, but more recent estimates put the number at more than 5 billion.

List of best-selling books - Wikipedia
According to Guinness World Records as of 1995, the Bible is the best-selling book of all time with an estimated 5 billion copies sold and distributed. Sales estimates for other printed religious texts include at least 800 million copies for the Qur'an and 120 million copies for the Book of Mormon.
 

capumetu

Active Member
Kindly quote from Jesus in this connection and please don't make-up things like sinful Paul did against the good teachings of the innocent Jesus. Right, please?

Regards
Although it likely may not mean anything to you sir, but here you go: (Luke 22:28-30) . . .you are the ones who have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 so that you may eat and drink at my table in my Kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the 12 tribes of Israel.

(Acts 2:1-4) . . .while the day of the Festival of Pentecost was in progress, they were all together at the same place. 2 Suddenly there was a noise from heaven, just like that of a rushing, stiff breeze, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 And tongues as if of fire became visible to them and were distributed, and one came to rest on each one of them, 4 and they all became filled with holy spirit and started to speak in different languages, just as the spirit enabled them to speak.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I wonder how different your numbers would be if you did not limit the Bible to one version.
Did they make the same edit for the Koran?
First of all Bible is not a book strictly speaking but a collection of the books written by different authors.
Secondly all versions have different wordings, that is why different versions have been made.
Thirdly Catholic Bible has 6 more books than the the Protestant Bible.
Fourthly, its original is not published/distributed or sold and read only by a limited number of people.

Quran has only one author and one version in original Arabic, published, sold and read the world over whatever the denomination of Muslim, please. Right friend, please?

Regards
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
First of all Bible is not a book strictly speaking but a collection of the books written by different authors.
Secondly all versions have different wordings, that is why different versions have been made.
Thirdly Catholic Bible has 6 more books than the the Protestant Bible.
Fourthly, its original is not published/distributed or sold and read only by a limited number of people.
Is that why your source kept to the one version, to falsely raise the Koran higher than it is?

Quran has only one author and one version in original Arabic, published, sold and read the world over whatever the denomination of Muslim, please. Right friend, please?
Here is a website that allows you to view eight different versions of the Koran at the same time:

 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Thinking abstract.

Da Vinci even painted the meaning.

Not reality.

Abstract back.

No such status.

Natural is present only.

A nuclear dust reaction sun time shift back to Satan.

No man is God the nuclear.

A teaching.

To teach you have to use inference to what you never believed in. God earth body destruction.

Does not involve the self teaching. It was realised and documented.

Is sacrifice of life first?

No.

Only Satanists would preach that belief.

Was science first?

No. It was chosen by humans.

What lying means. Not telling a human truth. Reality.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Joseph became husband after when innocent Mary was already pregnant, please. Right friend, please?

Regards
The story quotes io.seph.

Science statement about what sephiroth caused.

Says by healer human DNA baby life observations.

God earth owned heavens immaculate.

Gases not sacrificed. Night. Even balanced.

Gases sacrificed spirit the day or dies.

Meaning immaculate non burning belonged to natural history space womb.

Sacrifice was coat of many colours. Gases.

God and womb owned baby spirit gases non burning. False story as it is not any baby. Science stopped using male or female thesis.

As it was wrong. Proven false reasoning.

Day supported dies. Why humans died naturally. Radiation gas burning effect.

First story sacrificed spirit was about planet earth and natural light presence.

Natural sacrifice spirit sun caused.

Nothing to do with any human.

Science thought about it.

Space owned it's holding balanced.

Science always says I can copy.

Lied.

God gases come out of stone. Owned heavens.

Saviour stone wandering star put back burning gas mass.

Never replaced immaculate state.

Gas burning heavens science imbalanced.

Burnt even balanced.

Quote now became Eve.

By mother O maths.

I did it quotes satanist. By lists.

Human man reaction. Was irradiated speared in his side in nuclear fall out.

Modern day human mother O ovary life cell vision. Warning when Pope with side spear being lungs is in office life is in danger.

When atmosphere Christ mas is returned mother cell ovary heals in human womb. By water mass oxygenation condition. Baby human given back stable life.

A medical biological teaching. Healer observation.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
O mass is original sin. Burst burnt what sin was. Act of evil.

O before God one became seal of mass evil....science just human thoughts said it was Satan gods fallen angels

Said gods mass O original sin.

To lie when proven wrong is to coerce preach falsely. Warning to scientist human.

Said his life living was saved after origin of sin sealed God was removed.

The reactive cause which included his life human sacrificed he concluded had to occur otherwise his living life would have died also.

Coercive lying to humans still living.

No one should have died sacrificed. Science medical says all life is equal inside an equal mass world heavens.

Holy water oxygenated.

Science knew what it caused an evil act. Then proclaimed O God the planet did it.

Claiming he was not to blame.

Yet he changed natural history.

Therefore reasoning why life still lived real...after a reactive attack. Yet we already were living.

Human.
God stone the foundation changed.
Life sacrificed.
Human still living afterwards.

A long time ago.

Human living.
God foundation Moses event.
Human became evil beast like. Radiated mutated natural life.
God changed heavens by saviour stone spirit gas replacement.
Human life returned reincarnated into healthy genetics.

God foundation stone loses Jew El power. In radiation conversion. God the stone our foundation. JewEL our losses.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
with the flexibility I mentioned-it says whatever
the reader wants. Slavery good,slavery bad.
Rich? good or bad.

Pure language that no two agree on. Ha
The texts are multivalent. Do you think they ought not be?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
The texts are multivalent. Do you think they ought not be?

Multivslent

Guess that's one way to express it that
that it means whatever one wants it to
mean.

"Pure language" "multivalent " are kind of
meaningless too, so it all fits.

I'd call it obscurantism.

As best
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The texts are multivalent. Do you think they ought not be?
Teaching relative human advice.

Fall out alien.

Occurred in every nation.

O on God every nation is in. Variant place.

Mass changed as. Variant.

Human chemical brain changed according to T heir. The heir of their ground reaction release. Language diversified.

Scattering of language holy says review.

Reasoning. To be reasonable.

Theist says to brother O God the angel loved you.

It existed in the eternal. The spirit in eternal sent God O out of its body.

When heavens formed by God you paid your karmic debt. The eternal spirit became human. As the spirit who sent God from its body. Human reasoning presence self karmic.

As a reviewed spirit teaching.

Quotes science in a scattered language irradiated brain could no longer be expressed. God by its conditions taught us our lesson.

Never change natural states.

God not remembered science saved us. It could not be practiced anymore life healed was given an opportunity.

Memory returned. As brain chemicals healed voiced recordings memories heard speaking.

Human in that mind state not properly healed then theories state incorrectly.

Human reasoning for human. Is not for science

Science only theoried mass.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Humans are human.

Claim an animal like them their curse.

If our spirit form body is what an eternal spirit owned then an animal rationally should be a human.

Human memory says animals entered into a higher irradiating atmosphere. If that animal came from eternal it owned a spirit body like ours.

Cursed body.

Sharing many chemicals the same.

Would make common sense as to why in a higher irradiating atmosphere a human caused curse became ape like.

As originally we all came out if the eternal as a pre owned spirit self.

Have a look in tree bodies and see virtual human like forms.

Science argued spirit presence not real. Natural humans said Satanists being scientist conjured it.

Has science now concluded enough evidence to state yes spirit as entities are real?
 
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