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This Has To Be A Joke: Unfortunately It Is Not.

esmith

Veteran Member
Students do stupid **** all the time.
Unfortuantly it is not only the students. From the article:
What is most concerning is that faculty members have joined at Harvard and other schools to create blacklists and take retaliatory actions against people who were supportive or served in the Trump Administration. This effort is being spurred on by the rhetoric of figures like MSNBC’s Joy Reid who called for the “de-Ba’athification” of the Republican Party and CNN’s Don Lemon insisting that Trump voters as a group are supporters of Nazis and the KKK. This language seeks to label the votes of almost half of the electorate as virtual hate speech or extremism. The same call is now being heard on campuses for a purging of those deemed complicit in the Trump administration. That is beyond outrage. It is opportunism to use this tragedy to settle scores and purge opposing voices. The alternative is free speech. We can continue to engage each other in civil and respectful dialogue — the very antithesis of what occurred on January 6th. Universities could play a critical role in that dialogue but it will require a faith in free speech and ourselves that seems diminishing by the day.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Isn't that what we call "a storm in a tea cup"? This petition will not go anywhere and I don't think a university has the power to revoke a diploma in the first place unless it's an honorary one. They can cancel speaches and prevent a person from accessing a teaching job position or withdraw research grants, but that doesn't concern those politicians.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sounds like a really productive idea!
Next political foes will face....
1) Excommunication by priests, ministers, & rabbis.
2) Eviction by landlords.
3) Admissions to universities denied.
4) Banning from RF.
5) Extended warranties revoked.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
This looks like wrong information from an unreliable source. (Now how often have we seen that? :rolleyes:).

Here is an article from Forbes magazine on the same subject: Students At Yale, Harvard And University Of Missouri Turn Up The Pressure On GOP Senators

According to this, the calls are for Hawley and Cruz, both of whom are apparently members of the legal profession, to have their membership of their professional organisations revoked for undermining the rule of law and unethical behaviour in attacking US democracy.

That is very different - and actually quite an understandable thing to ask for.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
If there was a way to revoke their association with Harvard, but for them to retain their academic qualification. That would seem more reasonable. Effectively strike them from their records.!

I do not see how you can force Harvard or any other institution to allow disgraced individuals to benefit from the use their name. When their actions have been totally against the ethos and have disgraced the name of that institution.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Sounds like a really productive idea!
Next political foes will face....
1) Excommunication by priests, ministers, & rabbis.
2) Eviction by landlords.
3) Admissions to universities denied.
4) Banning from RF.
5) Extended warranties revoked.

Most of those things and much more, have and do happen. (Not RF)
Usually to socialists and Communists.
But we are talking about rightwing supported activists here.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Turns out we should have been as wise as @exchemist who searched for more accurate information and found out that petition is both more serious and based on a more reasonnable ground.
Does this mean that you agree it's reasonable to
revoke degrees based upon political behavior?
(Professional organizations are another matter.)
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Unfortuantly it is not only the students. From the article:
What is most concerning is that faculty members have joined at Harvard and other schools to create blacklists and take retaliatory actions against people who were supportive or served in the Trump Administration. This effort is being spurred on by the rhetoric of figures like MSNBC’s Joy Reid who called for the “de-Ba’athification” of the Republican Party and CNN’s Don Lemon insisting that Trump voters as a group are supporters of Nazis and the KKK. This language seeks to label the votes of almost half of the electorate as virtual hate speech or extremism. The same call is now being heard on campuses for a purging of those deemed complicit in the Trump administration. That is beyond outrage. It is opportunism to use this tragedy to settle scores and purge opposing voices. The alternative is free speech. We can continue to engage each other in civil and respectful dialogue — the very antithesis of what occurred on January 6th. Universities could play a critical role in that dialogue but it will require a faith in free speech and ourselves that seems diminishing by the day.
What ballocks. See post 7. :D
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
Unfortuantly it is not only the students. From the article:
What is most concerning is that faculty members have joined at Harvard and other schools to create blacklists and take retaliatory actions against people who were supportive or served in the Trump Administration. This effort is being spurred on by the rhetoric of figures like MSNBC’s Joy Reid who called for the “de-Ba’athification” of the Republican Party and CNN’s Don Lemon insisting that Trump voters as a group are supporters of Nazis and the KKK. This language seeks to label the votes of almost half of the electorate as virtual hate speech or extremism. The same call is now being heard on campuses for a purging of those deemed complicit in the Trump administration. That is beyond outrage. It is opportunism to use this tragedy to settle scores and purge opposing voices. The alternative is free speech. We can continue to engage each other in civil and respectful dialogue — the very antithesis of what occurred on January 6th. Universities could play a critical role in that dialogue but it will require a faith in free speech and ourselves that seems diminishing by the day.

Well, there is a kernel of truth in there: Trump is #1 with racists. I don't agree with a "blacklist" etc though.
 
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