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Fate Free Will and Synchronicities

janesix

Active Member
Yes, another annoying thread on free will or fate.
Does it have to be one or the other? Or is it just my wishful thinking, that there could be a reality where both are involved?
Because I KNOW at least some things are set up, probably by the Universe. Because "coincidences" or "synchronicities" always occur through the Universe showing me that there is predestination. And I don't like it.
A typical type of synchronicity for me is the electronic type. I get two or more instances in a short period of time, I mean instances of the same phrase, idea, word, experience, picture, anything. It usually shows up in unrelated videos, websites, shows, etc. Usually the synchronicity has very little or no apparent meaning. But as time goes on, the synchronicities are showing a pattern. Like I could have a seemingly meaningless synchronicity, and a year or two later, I have another that ties into the one I had a long time ago.
Lots of times I will just get an "urge" to look up a certain topic, a seemingly innocent topic, and then have a whole manic episode that can last for weeks or months, where I am led through coincidences from one thing to the next. And I get the euphoria reward, or an altered state of consciousness. And sometimes it is the opposite, with the synchronicities forming an idea that sends me into panic and extreme anxiety. (Either way, I tend to have extreme reactions)
Then there are the non-electronic type where it involves books and other non electronic media. When these occur, it shows that a set up for coincidence can take years to develop, and that the only explanation can be a predetermined outcome.
So fate is real. It has to be. But I don't understand why there is spiritual growth supposedly happening. And it often involves my personal decisions, morality etc. Things that involve free will and choice, choosing between good and evil etc.
So what the heck is going on?
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Yes, another annoying thread on free will or fate.
Does it have to be one or the other? Or is it just my wishful thinking, that there could be a reality where both are involved?
Because I KNOW at least some things are set up, probably by the Universe. Because "coincidences" or "synchronicities" always occur through the Universe showing me that there is predestination. And I don't like it.
A typical type of synchronicity for me is the electronic type. I get two or more instances in a short period of time, I mean instances of the same phrase, idea, word, experience, picture, anything. It usually shows up in unrelated videos, websites, shows, etc. Usually the synchronicity has very little or no apparent meaning. But as time goes on, the synchronicities are showing a pattern. Like I could have a seemingly meaningless synchronicity, and a year or two later, I have another that ties into the one I had a long time ago.
Lots of times I will just get an "urge" to look up a certain topic, a seemingly innocent topic, and then have a whole manic episode that can last for weeks or months, where I am led through coincidences from one thing to the next. And I get the euphoria reward, or an altered state of consciousness. And sometimes it is the opposite, with the synchronicities forming an idea that sends me into panic and extreme anxiety. (Either way, I tend to have extreme reactions)
Then there are the non-electronic type where it involves books and other non electronic media. When these occur, it shows that a set up for coincidence can take years to develop, and that the only explanation can be a predetermined outcome.
So fate is real. It has to be. But I don't understand why there is spiritual growth supposedly happening. And it often involves my personal decisions, morality etc. Things that involve free will and choice, choosing between good and evil etc.
So what the heck is going on?
What is going on is your imagination, I think.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Does it have to be one or the other? Or is it just my wishful thinking, that there could be a reality where both are involved?

That leads me into the realm where opposites are reconciled. Just as wild speculation, maybe both can exist.

Strictly my own speculation, maybe what happens to use is predestined by karma but we have a choice in how we respond to it.

All I know for sure is that outside some fatalists, East and West, most spiritual figures speak as if we have some choices.
 

Straw Dog

Well-Known Member
Yes, another annoying thread on free will or fate.
Does it have to be one or the other? Or is it just my wishful thinking, that there could be a reality where both are involved?

Yes, willpower is co-fated with the natural chain of events.

Think less, listen more.
 
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