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Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian?

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Who are these "many Christians" Subduction Zone is speaking of? I've never seen any "who proudly claim" they are the biggest religion. It's an empty claim.
I typed in 2.3 billion on the RF search engine to see who actually made the claim that Christians count 2.3 billion and how they would back that assertion up. But it wasn't the Chjristians who claimed so, at least not on this board.
If you know of any, who are they?
You obviously have not debated with Christians that have used that number as "evidence" for their faith. Trust me it happens.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
no, you can't refute the claim that being a Christian has something to do with faith, if you claim otherwise: present a quote from Bible.
Don't just post empty claims like you do so often...
I could back my stance up using scripture, how about you?
You did not understand my post. I could make just as valid of an argument about your beliefs as you make about Hitler. Did I ever deny that Christianity has something to do with faith? I can merely argue against your particular version of Christianity. By the way, One can quotemine the Bible and get it to say almost anything. If one takes it to the level of phrases the Bible says fifteen different times that "There is no God". That is why I laugh at individual verses. If a person can quote a verse out of context why can't I quote a phrase out of context?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
That appears to be more opinion than observations supported by evidence. It is too bad that he is long gone because I would ask for the evidence of that claim.
When studying the Holocaust in Poland and Israel, we did speak with Jewish, Catholic, and governmental spokespeople, thus this is what I also had run across there. There were six in our group that we survivors, btw.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Of course, it says this in the same paragraph that says that the Nazis supported "Positive Christianity."

It seems that there's a lot of supposition about what the Nazis might have done if they stayed in power beyond 1945... but they didn't stay in power beyond 1945.

This allows people to come up with all sorts of hypotheticals for what they might have done after 1945. Absurd things like maybe the way the Nazis consistently endorsed and promoted Christianity throughout their entire time in power was just step 1 of a bigger plan to eradicate Christianity.
But we do know he had begun initiating a replacement religion based on Nordic mythology, which is not Christian, so that sorta speaks for itself.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
The Bible however, says you must believe in order to be a Christian, see Romans 10:10. This is at least my interpretation of that verse.

Belief is what counts to be saved according to Romans 10:10.

Obviously, your conviction is not shared by all other True Christians.

What Does the Bible Say About: Who Is a Christian?
To be a true Christian, a person must change—really change! Acts 2:37-39 shows that Christians must "repent" and walk a different way of life. After repentance, a Christian must also be baptized (immersed in water) by a servant of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38; 8:14-17).

A person is not "of Christ" unless the Spirit of God is in him or her (Romans 8:9). This Spirit is imparted by the laying on of hands by an authorized representative of Jesus Christ (Acts 8:17-18). Through repentance, baptism and the receiving of God's Holy Spirit, a Christian is then able to understand the spiritual truth of God and His Word (1 Corinthians 2:11).
Obviously, your conviction is not shared by all other True Christians.

How Does The Bible Define a Christian?
At the moment of salvation a person receives the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:12-14), Who gives them the discernment to understand the things of God (1 Corinthians 2:9-16). They are then enabled to teach others the truth (2 Timothy 2:1-2) so that they may be saved too. Someone who rejects salvation through Christ cannot be a Christian (Acts 26:24-29). Therefore a Christian is someone who is saved.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
But we do know he had begun initiating a replacement religion based on Nordic mythology, which is not Christian, so that sorta speaks for itself.
We "know he had begun initiating a replacement religion"? Or some speculated that he was considering it?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
We "know he had begun initiating a replacement religion"? Or some speculated that he was considering it?
Himmler was put in charge of this operation, which was shown on a quote in a previous post of mine on this thread. Again, this in not an "alternative fact".
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Himmler was put in charge of this operation, which was shown on a quote in a previous post of mine on this thread. Again, this in not an "alternative fact".
Ahh. A quote by Himmler.

I guess that's all the evidence we need.
 

thomas t

non-denominational Christian
Psst: the RF search engine doesn't work. It hasn't worked in a while. An update a while back broke it, effectively.
lets see if it really doesn't work Search Results | Religious Forums
where are the Christians stating that 2.3 billion people are Christians?
It's in your fantasy.
You obviously have not debated with Christians that have used that number as "evidence" for their faith. Trust me it happens.
No I dont trust you of course. When was the last time you substanciated anything you said?
You did not understand my post.
I think I did.
One can quotemine the Bible and get it to say almost anything.
I doubt it.
If one takes it to the level of phrases the Bible says fifteen different times that "There is no God"
only if you disrupt a sentence.
This wasn't was I said when I asked you to substanciate your claim that being a Christian does not necessarily imply faith.
@ecco you couldn't present a shred of evidence that some Christians usually are proud to claim that they have the strongest religion in the world when it comes to how many adherents there are, that was my point.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
lets see if it really doesn't work Search Results | Religious Forums
where are the Christians stating that 2.3 billion people are Christians?
It's in your fantasy.

No I dont trust you of course. When was the last time you substanciated anything you said?

I think I did.

I doubt it.
only if you disrupt a sentence.
This wasn't was I said when I asked you to substanciate your claim that being a Christian does not necessarily imply faith.
@ecco you couldn't present a shred of evidence that some Christians usually are proud to claim that they have the strongest religion in the world when it comes to how many adherents there are, that was my point.
I substantiate my claims quite often.

But when people refuse to learn from their errors they begin to lose the ability to demand substantiation.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
@ecco you couldn't present a shred of evidence that some Christians usually are proud to claim that they have the strongest religion in the world when it comes to how many adherents there are, that was my point.
You talkin' to me?

Where did I make the unsubstantiated claim: "that some Christians usually are proud to claim that they have the strongest religion in the world when it comes to how many adherents there are"?
 

thomas t

non-denominational Christian
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Ecco, this was your reaction to
"Many Christians will proudly claim that Christianity is the world's largest religion and then very soon after that claim that all sorts of Christians are not "real Christians""
so you cheered for an unsubstanciated allegation here.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I posted evidence from several sources, including one source previously, and the best you can do is to post the above?.

We're done.
A link isn't an argument.

I responded to the first one because I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but then Isaw that it didn't support the conclusion you claimed. I wasn't willing to give you any further benefit of the doubt and I have better things to do on Christmas Eve morning than assigned reading from some random person on the internet, so I wasn't willing to go through the others.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Ecco, this was your reaction to
"Many Christians will proudly claim that Christianity is the world's largest religion and then very soon after that claim that all sorts of Christians are not "real Christians""
so you cheered for an unsubstanciated allegation here.


Which unsubstantiated allegation?

Do you consider this to be an unsubstantiated allegation?

Many Christians will proudly claim that Christianity is the world's largest religion

Do you consider this to be an unsubstantiated allegation?
[Christians] claim that all sorts of Christians are not "real Christians"
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Just a reminder, we were talking about the Nazis wanting to establish a Nordic Religion to replace Christianity.

Norse Mythology and Nazi Propaganda – The Cross Section

The word "establish" is used three times. None refer to a nordic religion.


The word "establish" is used three times. None refer to a nordic religion.


Number 4 is very big. How about you show the text that states that the Nazis wanted to establish a Nordic Religion to replace Christianity.





I don't consider Quora meaningful.




So, care to try again?
 

thomas t

non-denominational Christian
Which unsubstantiated allegation?

Do you consider this to be an unsubstantiated allegation?

Many Christians will proudly claim that Christianity is the world's largest religion

Do you consider this to be an unsubstantiated allegation?
[Christians] claim that all sorts of Christians are not "real Christians"
the first one. That was the one I bolded,
 
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