God Has Your Back

Clara Tea said:

Nobody knows about conditions in heaven. But, conditions on earth clearly prove that God doesn't have our backs. Cancer victims can pray to God, and God ignores prayers.

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First, Satan challenges ALL of us Not just the faithful man Job at Job 2:4-5.
' Touch our flesh...' ( loose physical health) and we would Not serve God.
Under adverse conditions both Job and Jesus proved Satan a liar and so can we.

According to Scripture: No one dies in Heaven. We don't think of Heaven as being polluted, filled with crime or sickness.
Those bad conditions exist on Earth, but at first in Eden those conditions did Not exist.
Conditions on Earth prove that rebellious 'man' doesn't have our backs.
Man has dominated man to man's hurt, to man's injury - Ecclesiastes 8:9
The verse at Ecclesiastes 5:8 shows it is human rulers who do Not have our backs.
This is a reason common people must cope with misrule, cope because of people Not living by the Golden Rule - Leviticus 19:18.
What the ' High Officials' often don't consider is that there is someone watching those political officials.
God is watching over as the Supreme Authority and his Son, Christ Jesus, as King of God's kingdom, is completely fair and just.
The passing of time was needed because it has allowed for all of us to be born and think who we would like as Sovereign over us.
Jesus, as King of God's kingdom government will come and subdue enemies as per Psalms 110.
This subduing will bring us relief. This is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come !
Come and bring sure Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill - Isaiah 54:13; Micah 4:3-4
Come and bring a healthy environment to Earth for us - Isaiah 33:24; Isaiah 35th chapter; Revelation 22:2
Come and bring happiness in having enjoyable work for us - Isaiah 65:22-23
Come and bring and end to ' enemy death ' right here on Earth for us - 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8

Trailblazer said:

Of course this is just a belief, because I cannot really ever know what God is doing, or not doing, as God is a mystery...........

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The person of Jesus did Not believe his God was a mystery.
Jesus often expounded or explained God and Scripture for us.
I find right now that God through Jesus is having the good news about God's kingdom ( Daniel 2:44 government ) declared world wide as per Matthew 24:14.
Knowledge about God's kingdom ( with God putting Jesus in office as King ) so that Jesus will be taking action as never before in history. 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3.
When the powers that be will be saying, " Peace and Security..." that will be the signal for Jesus to take the action of Psalms 110.
So, once the proclaiming about God's kingdom is accomplished on an international scale as it is being done today, then relief will come.
First, because of human corruption, there will be great tribulation as mentioned at Revelation 7:14,9 then Jesus, as Prince of Peace will take the action to:
Bring Peace on Earth
Earth will become as Eden originally was - Isaiah 35th chapter
Even ' enemy death ' will No longer exist on Earth as per 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8

URAVIP2ME said:

The person of Jesus did Not believe his God was a mystery.
Jesus often expounded or explained God and Scripture for us.

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That's true, but God is still a mystery because nobody can know the Essence of God (God's intrinsic nature) and nobody can know what God is "doing" at any time.

in any game, can a player expect the referee to "have their back"?
maybe if they applied some bakshi [grease]...maybe then...... perhaps that is all the religious posturing amounts to... hmm

Windwalker said:

That's interesting. Why would you say that? If you were to think of God as the underlying force of Goodness and health and well-being, that does not mean it "intervenes" for you. But it also does not mean that you can safely ignore it either. Does oxygen intervene for us? But can we safely ignore it and still live?

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Oxygen is not consciously aware. It can't make a decision to intervene or not. As long as it is present we really don't have to worry about oxygen making a decision to not be around.

Unless you see God the same. If God is not a conscious force then there is no need to worry about God making a decision to not be around.

Nakosis said:

Oxygen is not consciously aware. It can't make a decision to intervene or not. As long as it is present we really don't have to worry about oxygen making a decision to not be around.

Unless you see God the same. If God is not a conscious force then there is no need to worry about God making a decision to not be around.

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I see God as the Source of Consciousness itself. In that sense God is Consciousness. But imagining that as a "person" that has thoughts, ideas, emotions, feelings, likes, dislikes, and otherwise in general a separate and distinct "ego", no. All of that is simply anthropomorphisms. I think the best way to speak of "God" is to say "the Divine", as "god" has been culturally ladened with personality types; projections of human egos.

In that sense, the Divine, is like oxygen, or the ocean. It's the same everywhere, and you cannot exist without it. "In him we live and move and have our being," as the Greeks put it. The Divine is like the paper upon which various drawings are drawn. Without the paper, the drawings cannot exist. The drawings have no existence, unless it is drawn upon that "fabric". Make sense?

Trailblazer said:

That's true, but God is still a mystery because nobody can know the Essence of God (God's intrinsic nature) and nobody can know what God is "doing" at any time.

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I find God's main attributes or qualities of love, justice, wisdom and mercy is at the Essence of God.
To me, Jesus knew what his God was doing, and that is why he could have the confidence, the faith, that he had in his God.
Jesus filled us in, so that we would be 'forewarned to be forearmed' about our time frame and the happy climax for righteous humanity is soon coming.
Everything from praying or asking for God's kingdom to come ( thy kingdom come...) to praying the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come !
No mystery because Psalms 110 informs us that Jesus will come and subdue enemies bringing relief to us right here on Earth.

MNoBody said:

in any game, can a player expect the referee to "have their back"?
maybe if they applied some bakshi [grease]...maybe then...... perhaps that is all the religious posturing amounts to... hmm

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Hmm, What about in the 'game of life'_____________
How does one view a 'prison guard' or view a 'life guard' ____________
Does one trust the prison guard or trust the life guard in order to be kept safe from danger ___________
With the prison guard it very well could be "get off my back ! " whereas with the life guard it could be more like, " I have your back ! "
God, as Life Guard, has rules or restrictions which centers on peaceful " I have your back " things.
Staying calm with time to think to cultivate a humble or modest mind in pursuing peace now and for later.- Galatians 5:22-23

URAVIP2ME said:

To me, Jesus knew what his God was doing, and that is why he could have the confidence, the faith, that he had in his God.
Jesus filled us in, so that we would be 'forewarned to be forearmed' about our time frame and the happy climax for righteous humanity is soon coming.

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If Jesus filled you in, why don't all Christians have the same beliefs about what God is going to do at the end times?

URAVIP2ME said:

Everything from praying or asking for God's kingdom to come ( thy kingdom come...) to praying the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come !

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Why are Christians praying for Jesus to come when Jesus said He was never coming back to earth?

I believe that God's Kingdom will come to earth but I don't believe that Jesus will bring it. How could it be Jesus who will bring or establish the Kingdom of God on earth, given what Jesus said before He left this earth?

John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

URAVIP2ME said:

No mystery because Psalms 110 informs us that Jesus will come and subdue enemies bringing relief to us right here on Earth.

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I do not know why you believe that Psalms 110 is about Jesus. The New Testament is about Jesus. Why do Christians commandeer all the verses in the Old Testament and make them about Jesus.

Trailblazer said:

If Jesus filled you in, why don't all Christians have the same beliefs about what God is going to do at the end times?

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To me that would be a good question, however since all are Not genuine Christians then God allows the false to believe the lie.
Remember this: Jesus forewarned us that genuine 'wheat' Christians would grow together with the fake 'weed/tares' Christians until the Harvest Time.
So, the Harvest Time is in connection to the soon coming Time of Separation to take place on Earth as per Matthew 25:31-33,37.

You might find it interesting that Peter wrote that ' house cleaning ' will start with the religious ' House of God ' - 1 Peter 4:17
As a new broom sweeps clean, so to speak, Jesus will clean house, meaning getting rid of the false and leaving the genuine.
So, in other words, judgement will start with: the House of God.
Jesus will separate the figurative haughty 'goats' from the humble 'sheep' at the soon coming Separating Time.
Adverse judgement for the ' goats' and favorable judgement for the 'sheep '.
False clergy often hide that from the flock and focus only a heavenly reward ignoring that humble meek people will inherit the Earth - Psalms 37:9-11.
Their flock often does Not consider that the time is coming for people to have perfectly healthy physical earth bodies with the opportunity to live forever on Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.

Trailblazer said:

Why are Christians praying for Jesus to come when Jesus said He was never coming back to earth?
I believe that God's Kingdom will come to earth but I don't believe that Jesus will bring it. How could it be Jesus who will bring or establish the Kingdom of God on earth, given what Jesus said before He left this earth?
John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
I do not know why you believe that Psalms 110 is about Jesus. The New Testament is about Jesus. Why do Christians commandeer all the verses in the Old Testament and make them about Jesus.

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Good points ^ above ^ however, in Scripture we find that Jesus and co-rulers will govern over Earth from Heaven - Rev. 20:6; Daniel 7:18
Right, God's kingdom is Not of this world (of badness) God's kingdom is from or governing from Heaven over Earth.
You might want to consider 1 Corinthians 15:24-26 about Jesus and God's kingdom_________________

Also, consider: Although Jesus is in Heaven he is now governing over the Christian congregation no matter where located on Earth - Ephesians 5:23 B.
Jerusalem 'above' is Now the seat of government - Galatians 4:26 - so Jesus will continue to govern over Earth from above.

To me there is the connection about praying or asking for God's kingdom ( Daniel 2:44 ) to come and asking for Jesus to come - Rev. 22:20
We are still asking for both to come, and Jesus is that figurative ' stone ' of Daniel chapter 2.

Consider also Psalms 110 because there are two (2) LORD/Lord's mentioned (KJV ) compare Matthew 22:43-44; Mark 12:36 and Luke 20:42-43.
The LORD in ALL Upper-Case letters stands for LORD God ( YHWH Tetragrammaton )
The other Lord ( in some lower-case letters ) stands for Lord Jesus ( No Tetragrammaton applied )
Who sits at God's right hand but the resurrected Christ Jesus - Ephesians 1:20; Romans 8:34; Revelation 3:12,21.

JustGeorge said:

No. I believe God is probably conscious of me(and everyone else). But I'm not sure God has the power to intervene in most affairs.

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Do you believe that God is omniscient and omnipotent?

Skywalker said:

Do you believe that God is omniscient and omnipotent?

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I believe God is beyond omniscience and omnipotence.

JustGeorge said:

I believe God is beyond omniscience and omnipotence.

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What does that mean?

God is beyond 'knowing'. That is a human construct. When you pervade the entire cosmos, what's to know?

Its also hard for me to fit the idea of God into omnipotence, as I believe God is the laws that govern the universe. God does not control them to serve some purpose or the other, nor is God governed by them, because they cannot be separated from each other.

In my opinion.

JustGeorge said:

God is beyond 'knowing'. That is a human construct. When you pervade the entire cosmos, what's to know?

Its also hard for me to fit the idea of God into omnipotence, as I believe God is the laws that govern the universe. God does not control them to serve some purpose or the other, nor is God governed by them, because they cannot be separated from each other.

In my opinion.

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I believe that God wants people to know Him, similar to a parent wanting their kids to know them.

Where did those laws that govern the universe come from?

Skywalker said:

I believe that God wants people to know Him, similar to a parent wanting their kids to know them.

Where did those laws that govern the universe come from?

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Its possible. Its also possible that God is curious of us. Or its possible God couldn't care less.

I don't know where the laws came from. I will get back to you on that, right after I figure out where my bottle of soy sauce went.

As far as it looks so far, all any of us has are beliefs, theories, and speculations. None of us know, no matter how much we might like to think we do.

JustGeorge said:

Its possible. Its also possible that God is curious of us. Or its possible God couldn't care less.

I don't know where the laws came from. I will get back to you on that, right after I figure out where my bottle of soy sauce went.

As far as it looks so far, all any of us has are beliefs, theories, and speculations. None of us know, no matter how much we might like to think we do.

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Why would God not care less if he created blessings?

Skywalker said:

Why would God not care less if he created blessings?

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Why would God have to care just because He created us, and how does God show that He cares, those are the hundred million dollar questions.