Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
Your partner gained nothing from the experience?
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Nada.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
And that is the sort of abuse that makes me against this sort of nonsense.
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
Abuse?
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
"Reiki is a Japanese technique for stress reduction and relaxation that also promotes healing. It is administered by "laying on hands" and is based on the idea that an unseen "life force energy" flows through us and is what causes us to be alive. If one's "life force energy" is low, then we are more likely to get sick or feel stress, and if it is high, we are more capable of being happy and healthy."
--Reiki.org
Seems far from a source of abuse.
--Reiki.org
Seems far from a source of abuse.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
False hope is abuse. Did you even read that nonsense? There is no "life force energy". People who say things like that do not understand the concept of energy.
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
Or you don't understand the term Life Force Energy. What is missing when people die?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Nothing. People just die.Or you don't understand the term Life Force Energy. What is missing when people die?
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
Their life energy is gone. Right? There is an empty shell where once there was a person.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Nope, dead is dead. That is all. There does not appear to be any "life energy". No one has ever observed it.
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
Well, it is not worth arguing. I'm gonna rest a bit before dinner and recharge my batteries. Happy Thanks Giving.
Here's the thing....it can be tested.
But it's wrong to dismiss it just because the mechanism at work
isn't what's claimed, eg, "life energy fields" or such hokum.
But it can still work.
From a link I supplied earlier, a particular kind of orthopedic
surgery was found to have no more benefit (in a statistical
study) than going thru all the motions of the surgery except
for the actual surgery. The real improvement appeared to
have been caused by the ritual & belief in outcome.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No one has said it is completely worthless. It does have a bit of a placebo effect. But to call it "healing" is dishonest and misleading.
If it works for some folks and they consider it healing, how is it dishonest?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
But it really does not. It has been tested in that regard and shown to be ineffective. I posted a link earlier. At best it only aids in easing one's mind, making pain more bearable. If it really worked for some then it would be accepted even if the rates were rather low.
Well, in this thread we've learned that giving folks "false hope" is apparently abuse. Abuse! As in extremely offensive, characterized by habitual violence and cruelty, or illegal! Like, super seriously bad and awful! If a snarl that extreme is going to be thrown onto "false hope" isn't exactly hard to justify a snarl like "dishonest."
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Maybe a Reiki practitioner could clearly explain how it works? I assume this is covered on those expensive Reiki courses?
I think some reiki practices are secret or passed down. If so, I doubt a lot of the online resources say much to the degree of training. When I did it I was told there were steps involved. Many traditions outside western have a sort of teacher-student relationship. Americans (I don't know about other westerners) tend to want to know the nature of things-which, unlike some say, I don't see that as wrong or anything. If I have an experience, I don't just want to live but be curious about it as well. But I agree with some here it sounds like a pseudoscience.
Uh, so it works for some people then in some kind of meaningful way.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Hopefully, most people are mature enough to be skeptical in things like this?
People who give false hope can't hurt anyone unless the other person "chooses" to take him or her at his word. A person can't get tricked if he is skeptical of the practice that may or may not be meant to trick him.