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According to researchers the early Hebrews and Christians didn't celebrate birthdays. There are even two occurances in the bible that show what happens to people at birthday celebrations. Both celebrations depict someone being killed during the celebration. One of those celebrations in the bible has a Christian getting beheaded, John the Baptist.
Even Jesus' birth information is missing in the scriptures. No exact day, month or year is listed. Who was in power is listed but that is all.
The Hebrews were even on a different calendar that the rest of the world is. In the past it was a Roman calendar, Julian. Then came the Gregorian calendar, created by Pope Gregory. The Hebrew calendar is quite different. The links below are to wikipedia.com the free online encyclopedia:
With all the information posted, what do you think about Christians celebrating birthdays?
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Even Jesus' birth information is missing in the scriptures. No exact day, month or year is listed. Who was in power is listed but that is all.
The Hebrews were even on a different calendar that the rest of the world is. In the past it was a Roman calendar, Julian. Then came the Gregorian calendar, created by Pope Gregory. The Hebrew calendar is quite different. The links below are to wikipedia.com the free online encyclopedia:
http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Hebrew_calendar
http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Gregorian_Calendar
http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Julian_calendar
Below are the only depictions of birthday celebrations in the bible:http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Gregorian_Calendar
http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Julian_calendar
[World English Bible]
Matthew 14:1 At that time, Herod the tetrarch heard the report concerning Jesus, 14:2 and said to his servants, This is John the Baptizer. He is risen from the dead. That is why these powers work in him. 14:3 For Herod had laid hold of John, and bound him, and put him in prison for the sake of Herodias, his brother Philips wife. 14:4 For John said to him, It is not lawful for you to have her. 14:5 When he would have put him to death, he feared the multitude, because they counted him as a prophet. 14:6 But when Herods birthday came, the daughter of Herodias danced among them and pleased Herod. 14:7 Whereupon he promised with an oath to give her whatever she should ask. 14:8 She, being prompted by her mother, said, Give me here on a platter the head of John the Baptizer.
14:9 The king was grieved, but for the sake of his oaths, and of those who sat at the table with him, he commanded it to be given, 14:10 and he sent and beheaded John in the prison. 14:11 His head was brought on a platter, and given to the young lady: and she brought it to her mother. 14:12 His disciples came, and took the body, and buried it; and they went and told Jesus. 14:13 Now when Jesus heard this, he withdrew from there in a boat, to a deserted place apart. When the multitudes heard it, they followed him on foot from the cities.
Mark 6:21 Then a convenient day came, that Herod on his birthday made a supper for his nobles, the high officers, and the chief men of Galilee. 6:22 When the daughter of Herodias herself came in and danced, she pleased Herod and those sitting with him. The king said to the young lady, Ask me whatever you want, and I will give it to you. 6:23 He swore to her, Whatever you shall ask of me, I will give you, up to half of my kingdom.
6:24 She went out, and said to her mother, What shall I ask?
She said, The head of John the Baptizer.
6:25 She came in immediately with haste to the king, and asked, I want you to give me right now the head of John the Baptizer on a platter.
6:26 The king was exceedingly sorry, but for the sake of his oaths, and of his dinner guests, he didnt wish to refuse her. 6:27 Immediately the king sent out a soldier of his guard, and commanded to bring Johns head, and he went and beheaded him in the prison, 6:28 and brought his head on a platter, and gave it to the young lady; and the young lady gave it to her mother.
6:29 When his disciples heard this, they came and took up his corpse, and laid it in a tomb.
Genesis 40:1 It happened after these things, that the butler of the king of Egypt and his baker offended their lord, the king of Egypt. 40:2 Pharaoh was angry with his two officers, the chief cupbearer and the chief baker. 40:3 He put them in custody in the house of the captain of the guard, into the prison, the place where Joseph was bound. 40:4 The captain of the guard assigned them to Joseph, and he took care of them. They stayed in prison many days. 40:5 They both dreamed a dream, each man his dream, in one night, each man according to the interpretation of his dream, the cupbearer and the baker of the king of Egypt, who were bound in the prison. 40:6 Joseph came in to them in the morning, and saw them, and saw that they were sad. 40:7 He asked Pharaohs officers who were with him in custody in his masters house, saying, Why do you look so sad today?
40:8 They said to him, We have dreamed a dream, and there is no one who can interpret it.
Joseph said to them, Dont interpretations belong to God? Please tell it to me.
40:9 The chief cupbearer told his dream to Joseph, and said to him, In my dream, behold, a vine was in front of me, 40:10 and in the vine were three branches. It was as though it budded, its blossoms shot forth, and its clusters brought forth ripe grapes. 40:11 Pharaohs cup was in my hand; and I took the grapes, and pressed them into Pharaohs cup, and I gave the cup into Pharaohs hand.
40:12 Joseph said to him, This is its interpretation: the three branches are three days. 40:13 Within three more days, Pharaoh will lift up your head, and restore you to your office. You will give Pharaohs cup into his hand, the way you did when you were his cupbearer. 40:14 But remember me when it will be well with you, and show kindness, please, to me, and make mention of me to Pharaoh, and bring me out of this house. 40:15 For indeed, I was stolen away out of the land of the Hebrews, and here also have I done nothing that they should put me into the dungeon.
40:16 When the chief baker saw that the interpretation was good, he said to Joseph, I also was in my dream, and behold, three baskets of white bread were on my head. 40:17 In the uppermost basket there was all kinds of baked food for Pharaoh, and the birds ate them out of the basket on my head.
40:18 Joseph answered, This is its interpretation. The three baskets are three days. 40:19 Within three more days, Pharaoh will lift up your head from off you, and will hang you on a tree; and the birds will eat your flesh from off you. 40:20 It happened the third day, which was Pharaohs birthday, that he made a feast for all his servants, and he lifted up the head of the chief cupbearer and the head of the chief baker among his servants. 40:21 He restored the chief cupbearer to his position again, and he gave the cup into Pharaohs hand; 40:22 but he hanged the chief baker, as Joseph had interpreted to them. 40:23 Yet the chief cupbearer didnt remember Joseph, but forgot him.
At the link below, birthday celebrations explained in detail:Matthew 14:1 At that time, Herod the tetrarch heard the report concerning Jesus, 14:2 and said to his servants, This is John the Baptizer. He is risen from the dead. That is why these powers work in him. 14:3 For Herod had laid hold of John, and bound him, and put him in prison for the sake of Herodias, his brother Philips wife. 14:4 For John said to him, It is not lawful for you to have her. 14:5 When he would have put him to death, he feared the multitude, because they counted him as a prophet. 14:6 But when Herods birthday came, the daughter of Herodias danced among them and pleased Herod. 14:7 Whereupon he promised with an oath to give her whatever she should ask. 14:8 She, being prompted by her mother, said, Give me here on a platter the head of John the Baptizer.
14:9 The king was grieved, but for the sake of his oaths, and of those who sat at the table with him, he commanded it to be given, 14:10 and he sent and beheaded John in the prison. 14:11 His head was brought on a platter, and given to the young lady: and she brought it to her mother. 14:12 His disciples came, and took the body, and buried it; and they went and told Jesus. 14:13 Now when Jesus heard this, he withdrew from there in a boat, to a deserted place apart. When the multitudes heard it, they followed him on foot from the cities.
Mark 6:21 Then a convenient day came, that Herod on his birthday made a supper for his nobles, the high officers, and the chief men of Galilee. 6:22 When the daughter of Herodias herself came in and danced, she pleased Herod and those sitting with him. The king said to the young lady, Ask me whatever you want, and I will give it to you. 6:23 He swore to her, Whatever you shall ask of me, I will give you, up to half of my kingdom.
6:24 She went out, and said to her mother, What shall I ask?
She said, The head of John the Baptizer.
6:25 She came in immediately with haste to the king, and asked, I want you to give me right now the head of John the Baptizer on a platter.
6:26 The king was exceedingly sorry, but for the sake of his oaths, and of his dinner guests, he didnt wish to refuse her. 6:27 Immediately the king sent out a soldier of his guard, and commanded to bring Johns head, and he went and beheaded him in the prison, 6:28 and brought his head on a platter, and gave it to the young lady; and the young lady gave it to her mother.
6:29 When his disciples heard this, they came and took up his corpse, and laid it in a tomb.
Genesis 40:1 It happened after these things, that the butler of the king of Egypt and his baker offended their lord, the king of Egypt. 40:2 Pharaoh was angry with his two officers, the chief cupbearer and the chief baker. 40:3 He put them in custody in the house of the captain of the guard, into the prison, the place where Joseph was bound. 40:4 The captain of the guard assigned them to Joseph, and he took care of them. They stayed in prison many days. 40:5 They both dreamed a dream, each man his dream, in one night, each man according to the interpretation of his dream, the cupbearer and the baker of the king of Egypt, who were bound in the prison. 40:6 Joseph came in to them in the morning, and saw them, and saw that they were sad. 40:7 He asked Pharaohs officers who were with him in custody in his masters house, saying, Why do you look so sad today?
40:8 They said to him, We have dreamed a dream, and there is no one who can interpret it.
Joseph said to them, Dont interpretations belong to God? Please tell it to me.
40:9 The chief cupbearer told his dream to Joseph, and said to him, In my dream, behold, a vine was in front of me, 40:10 and in the vine were three branches. It was as though it budded, its blossoms shot forth, and its clusters brought forth ripe grapes. 40:11 Pharaohs cup was in my hand; and I took the grapes, and pressed them into Pharaohs cup, and I gave the cup into Pharaohs hand.
40:12 Joseph said to him, This is its interpretation: the three branches are three days. 40:13 Within three more days, Pharaoh will lift up your head, and restore you to your office. You will give Pharaohs cup into his hand, the way you did when you were his cupbearer. 40:14 But remember me when it will be well with you, and show kindness, please, to me, and make mention of me to Pharaoh, and bring me out of this house. 40:15 For indeed, I was stolen away out of the land of the Hebrews, and here also have I done nothing that they should put me into the dungeon.
40:16 When the chief baker saw that the interpretation was good, he said to Joseph, I also was in my dream, and behold, three baskets of white bread were on my head. 40:17 In the uppermost basket there was all kinds of baked food for Pharaoh, and the birds ate them out of the basket on my head.
40:18 Joseph answered, This is its interpretation. The three baskets are three days. 40:19 Within three more days, Pharaoh will lift up your head from off you, and will hang you on a tree; and the birds will eat your flesh from off you. 40:20 It happened the third day, which was Pharaohs birthday, that he made a feast for all his servants, and he lifted up the head of the chief cupbearer and the head of the chief baker among his servants. 40:21 He restored the chief cupbearer to his position again, and he gave the cup into Pharaohs hand; 40:22 but he hanged the chief baker, as Joseph had interpreted to them. 40:23 Yet the chief cupbearer didnt remember Joseph, but forgot him.
From Wikipedia.com (The Free Online Encyclopedia) said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
A birthday is the date on which a person was born. It is customary in many cultures to celebrate the anniversary of one's birthday in some way, for example by having a birthday party with friends in which gifts are exchanged. It is also customary to treat someone especially nice and generally accede to their wishes on their birthday....
The origins of birthday celebrations and the ceremonial acts are said to be offensive to the Christian God according to some Christians.With all the information posted, what do you think about Christians celebrating birthdays?
This is also a Poll. You can either Vote, post your response & vote, or post a response only.