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What is God’s Kingdom?

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
being perfect or not;being intelligent or not we all need to be ruled or controlled by God.
Maybe guided is a better word.

"I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances." (Ezekiel 36:26-27)
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
I see)thanks a lot for your answer )
You say: Great intelligence doesn’t need to be ruled or controlled.....understands the best choices”
This reminds me of Adam and Eve.the first couple. they were placed under one restriction. It was imposed for obedience to God’s instructions as a test of their obedience to God, for obedience to his instructions would be absolutely necessary in order for them to carry out their duties successfully. Despite being perfect and intelligent they really needed that restriction.
Jesus is the firstborn of all creation.By means of him all other things in heaven and on earth were created.He is the second greatest person in the universe ,he is intelligent .At Hebrews 1:6 the angels (being intelligent)are instructed to worship Jesus.Angeles are in submission of Jesus;consequently Jesus Christ is in submission of God.(Matthew 4:10)
In harmony with that; being perfect or not;being intelligent or not we all need to be ruled or controlled by God.
And only God’s Kingdom can rule people in the best way


You can not base reality on the religious stories written by mankind. They only reflect mankind. God is at a much higher level.

One of the petty things mankind holds so dear is ruling and controlling others. Even you have been conditioned to think all must be controlled. Why is it about ruling, controlling, and being submissive?

In your lifetime, have you ever said to yourself: I'll never do that again!!? Why did you say that? It was because you learned that the choice you made was not the best choice you could have made. It's called learning and growing.

With enough lessons one learns the very best choices. The other choices you will never do that again. Those bad choices are no longer viable choices you could make because Intelligence will make the Best choices.

There was a couple whose young child was playing around an oven. This child saw the pretty red electric element glowing in the oven and touched it. This child was burned a bit but OK. Do we need to make rules for the child not to touch red glowing oven elements? Trust me, this child will never do that again. Intelligence of red glowing elements has been acquired.

I know this is a crude, simply example, however the mathematics of it all are the same. When one really understands all sides, intelligence will pick the best choices. One is not truly intelligence making bad choices simply because they do not deliver the best results.

Mankind through society and religion teaches people to value all those petty things, hating, judging, condemning, blaming,punishing, wanting pay back, selfishness, greed, coercing, intimidating, controlling, ruling, and so many things that prevent one from moving to a Higher Level. One will never be able to create a Heavenly state with petty things.

In a multilevel classroom, one can see others learning lessons one has already learned. Is this really an excuse to hate or condemn? Is the We against They that religions generate really the Higher Level? Is goodness really the only thing religions are teaching? I think not!!

If we look at one of God's actions, God created a world where Brains will win over the long haul. WE are all meant to learn, grow and THINK!! To accept and blindly follow is one thing a person should never do. One should always advance beyond the sum of any of our teachings.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

HaEmeth

Truth sets free
Any concept of God's Kingdom other than a real government - a theocracy, to be precise - is not supported by the Scriptures, both by the Hebrew-Aramaic (Old Testament) and the Greek Scriptures (New Testament).

Personal transformation of an individual now is a direct result of Christ's teachings and catalyzed by one's realization that the kingdom is imminent. However, a cosmic-wide governmental and social transformation - "new heavens and a new earth" (2 Peter 3:13), so to speak - is the calm after the storm, not before.

It's establishment is nothing short of cosmic cataclysmic in which God cleanses the heavens first of the ruling powers of evil, first, and, later, on earth - in strict sequential compliance of the formula set forth at Matthew 6:10: God's will taking place in heaven first then on earth.

As proof thereof, we read at Revelation 12:7-9 of the forces of evil in the heavenly places being forced out and relegated to earth's vicinity after which this pertinent proclamation of the kingdom's establishment at verse 10 was made:

“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the Kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!"

Then, as mentioned at Daniel 2:44 - and partly quoted by Natasha - this kingdom, which God himself sets up, will crush all rival kingdoms on earth while those kingdoms are still a going concern. It will, therefore, be downright dangerous if anyone is supporting a kingdom other than God's.

One might ask: Why set up a God's kingdom? Hasn't God been Sovereign Ruler from eternity?

Jehovah God had, of course, been Sovereign Ruler long before human kingdoms developed, in fact before humans existed. However, a new expression of that rulership is needed after the first human pair’s open violation of God’s command - actually rebellion against divine authority - instigated by one of God’s spirit sons. The position taken by God’s spirit Adversary (Heb., sa·tanʹ) constituted a challenge calling for a test, the issue being the rightfulness of Jehovah’s universal sovereignty. The supreme issue, therefore, is a moral one not of might. The earth, where the issue was raised, is fittingly the place where it will be settled.

At the time of pronouncing judgment upon the first rebels, Jehovah God spoke a prophecy, couched in symbolic phrase, setting forth his purpose to use an agency, a “seed”(Genesis 3:15 KJV), to effect the ultimate crushing of the rebel forces.

That new expression of God's Kingdom is that seed, with Jesus at the helm, that will accomplish that.
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Millions of people repeat a prayer “Thy kingdom come”
Jesus told his followers to pray for God’s Kingdom.
At first, Jesus’ followers did not understand everything he said about the Kingdom. They once asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” They were probably surprised when Jesus did not give them a direct answer. (Acts 1:6, 7)
What’s God’s kingdom?
Why do we need God’s Kingdom?Who is the King of God’s Kingdom?When will God’s Kingdom rule the earth?What will God’s Kingdom accomplish?Why choose to support God’s Kingdom?

express your ideas☺️


The Kingdom of God.
Some say the Godhead. I like that better - mainly because of connotations between “kingdoms”, “nations”, “borders” and other limiting words that I do not much care for.

It is where “we” (spiritually, collectively, as one) exist. Where “we” have always been and where “we” will always be.

But this “where” is not a [physical] place, and this “we” does not include our manifested “I’s”.

It is not easy to word, because we have no words for what we speak of here. Jesus spoke in words too and that is why the disciples could not always understand all that was expressed about the Kingdom of Heaven.

Humbly
Hermit
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Any concept of God's Kingdom other than a real government - a theocracy, to be precise - is not supported by the Scriptures, both by the Hebrew-Aramaic (Old Testament) and the Greek Scriptures (New Testament).
Jesus said that his Kingdom was already present with his coming.

And welcome to RF, btw.
 
The Kingdom of God.
Some say the Godhead. I like that better - mainly because of connotations between “kingdoms”, “nations”, “borders” and other limiting words that I do not much care for.

It is where “we” (spiritually, collectively, as one) exist. Where “we” have always been and where “we” will always be.

But this “where” is not a [physical] place, and this “we” does not include our manifested “I’s”.

It is not easy to word, because we have no words for what we speak of here. Jesus spoke in words too and that is why the disciples could not always understand all that was expressed about the Kingdom of Heaven.

Humbly
Hermit
Thanks for answering)
I agree with you;no one likes “borders”or “limitations”.it’s mainly because of bad experience we have been gaining from human governments.

God’s Kingdom, which is a real government in heaven, will soon bring an end to all wickedness and transform the earth into a paradise.”
In Isa9:6,7 we read:
6”For a child has been born to us,A son has been given to us;And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. 7 To the increase of his rulershipAnd to peace, there will be no end,On the throne of David and on his kingdomIn order to establish it firmly and to sustain it Through justice and righteousness,From now on and forever....”
What makes Jesus an ideal Ruler? Consider what Jesus did while on earth.Jesus cared for people;Jesus taught what it means to love,Jesus taught us how to please God.
Jesus is perfectly qualified to be an effective world Ruler who is helpful and kind.
Mankind won’t suffer anymore ;no bad kingdoms;borders; or limitations .


God promises :
Free mankind from all threat of war
Rid the earth of corrupt rulers and oppression
Remove sicknesses
Cause righteousness and justice to prevail
Resurrect the dead....
And lots of other things
What problems would you personally like to be fixed?
sincerely,
Natasha)
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
What problems would you personally like to be fixed?


Dear natasha levchenko

What it is that shall remain after Judgement Day, is for God to determine.

But I have full trust that all that God judges to be wrong (that which is not in the “Book of Life”) will be dissolved.

Me, I can only do my bit: work on myself and be responsible for my own contribution to the whole. I believe, that is all that any of us can do - but that, indeed, is plenty :).

Humbly
Hermit
 
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