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Does it bother you that people don't believe in God?

Religion is optional, totally!
I concur, and I choose my friends wisely. That doesn't mean we can't be kind or appreciative of acquaintances or strangers. For chi chat, there are lots of topics besides religion and politics.

Yes, and luckily, I'm able to get along quite well with people and have great interactions, but I mainly avoid people, and I never feel like I can really express to them my true beliefs or ideas too vocally or clearly for fear of being utterly rejected or exposing the major differences in our ideologies and worldviews as expected, since I highly doubt (even if they claim they believe in God), that their God and my God's qualities and activities are anywhere near the same.

Harboring this thought, that they aren't really like me, they don't see what I see, know what I know, creates a kind of slight barrier, even if I'm smiling and speaking lovingly and kindly to them on all manner of topics, my religion really is my whole person, and their not being able to know it, is their not being able to know me really.

This is my feeling with the religious and the non-religious alike, and so I feel detached and alienated and hidden from most people, and its sort of unpleasant and uncomfortable, and seemingly can't be helped.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
Lately I've noticed some hatred of atheists. For religions that preach love, isn't that just a tad hypocritical?
The person doing the preaching should be held to very high standards or ignored, but that often isn't what happens. Often they go uninspected, like autos that are allowed to become unsafe or political parties.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Yes, and luckily, I'm able to get along quite well with people and have great interactions, but I mainly avoid people, and I never feel like I can really express to them my true beliefs or ideas too vocally or clearly for fear of being utterly rejected or exposing the major differences in our ideologies and worldviews as expected, since I highly doubt (even if they claim they believe in God), that their God and my God's qualities and activities are anywhere near the same.

Harboring this thought, that they aren't really like me, they don't see what I see, know what I know, creates a kind of slight barrier, even if I'm smiling and speaking lovingly and kindly to them on all manner of topics, my religion really is my whole person, and their not being able to know it, is their not being able to know me really.

This is my feeling with the religious and the non-religious alike, and so I feel detached and alienated and hidden from most people, and its sort of unpleasant and uncomfortable, and seemingly can't be helped.

I have one person that gets me, maybe two or three. Boss is one. That's why I married her. As a kid I had the psychological need to go for long walks ... by myself. Dad was a social person, and out of courtesy I'd tell them I'd be gone for a couple of hours. Then Dad would say, "I'll come with you," and I'd cringe. At a certain age I learned to overlook that courtesy.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Does it bother you that people don't believe in God?

No it does not bother me

And there is not 1 definition of God

Atheist agree on my idea of God anyway

And how did you explain that to them? I'm often unsuccessful at getting atheists to think outside the box of the Abrahamic God. But yes, I am closer to atheism than the Abrahamic mindset as well.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I worry about the results that will come from this absurd 'scientism' that currently infects most so-called "atheists".
I don't know that you intended this line to sound like a generalized insult to people who grok science, but it comes across that way.

If science sometimes appears unsympathetic to religious claims, that's because science deals with reality, whereas the existence of a real god is an ongoing problem for believers. The problem is not helped by there being no definition of God appropriate to a real entity.

Or to put that another way, if God is a real entity, why can't science find God in reality?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
The main reason it doesn't bother me that some folks don't "believe in" gods is because I know how uninformative that declaration is. It doesn't actually tell me anything. It tells me they don't "believe in" (whatever that means) some particular conception of god (whatever that is) and only begs questions.
 

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Does it bother you that people don't believe in God?

No it does not bother me

And there is not 1 definition of God

Atheist agree on my idea of God anyway

How? Explain please. I'm very curious
 
I don't know that you intended this line to sound like a generalized insult to people who grok science, but it comes across that way.

If science sometimes appears unsympathetic to religious claims, that's because science deals with reality, whereas the existence of a real god is an ongoing problem for believers. The problem is not helped by there being no definition of God appropriate to a real entity.

Or to put that another way, if God is a real entity, why can't science find God in reality?

God is Reality, Reality is God, and I'm a Scientismist.
 
How? Explain please. I'm very curious
Yeah, seriously, good question, I sort of find it unusual if people really are un-phased by vast and startling differences. Like it even bothers me if someone says something is SOOOOO SWEET or SOOOOO SALTY and I have it and I'm like what the heck are you talking about? or they can't see certain colors, even that is freaky seeming to me.
 
The main reason it doesn't bother me that some folks don't "believe in" gods is because I know how uninformative that declaration is. It doesn't actually tell me anything. It tells me they don't "believe in" (whatever that means) some particular conception of god (whatever that is) and only begs questions.
I've interrogated a bunch of people further on their concept of the God they don't believe in, and often I find I also don't believe in that concept of God that they don't believe in, then we're mouth to mouth.
 

Workman

UNIQUE
Lately I've noticed some hatred of atheists. For religions that preach love, isn't that just a tad hypocritical?



Does it bother you that people don't believe in God?

Where there are three gods,
they are gods....
Where there are two or one,
I Am with Him.

So...No! It will not bother me more than it shall..with you.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I don't think even god has a problem with atheists. If we assume such a being is infinitely intelligent, then it stands to reason that they'd also be infinitely patient and understanding. They wouldn't be insecure or have a fragile ego where they required constant praise and reassurance, nor would they behave in a petty and vindictive manner. They wouldn't give us the ability to reason only for us to forgo its use.
 
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