Ancient Soul
The Spiritual Universe
Everyone's soul is "one/connected" with God.
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Are Shrines a Form of Idolatry?
- Thread starter Deeje
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Everyone's soul is "one/connected" with God.
You don't have anything but declaration to offer here.
For instance, if I say But an opinion does nothing to change the fact that there is no elephant in the room where I am typing now, I could take a photo of it and voilá: the photo is the proof that my assertion is right.
But you didn't back your declaration up by anything. It's presumtion what you say.
I stay with my opinion that God incarnated.
Actually, I read the whole Bible.
To me, there is nothing crazy about the almighty God performing miracles. Other people find that crazy, though.
Earth on pillars is poetry as I see it. It's from a song from the Bible.
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No, worship just one God.
And I believe the quote is correct, the word soul is one word and the word spirit is a different word.
Certainly I can't begrudge you having a different perspective but certainly you having an opinion doesn't mean you are right. I find the scriptures quite spiritually fulfilling.
Ancient Soul
The Spiritual Universe
A common straw man reply that does not directly address the issues I stated, but gives an out in left field comment to make it appear like you did. A way of deflection from the verse's use of plural "gods" and the miss-interpretation of what "image" means in that verse.
I re-posted the entire "conversation" so everyone can see this.
Ancient Soul
The Spiritual Universe
This is one of those pot/kettle things. As you have nothing "but declaration to offer here".
In some 200,000 years there have been many thousands of people searching for the slightest bit of conclusive proof that this Jesus ever really existed on earth, and they have still found NOTHING. So that stands as a fact that he did not exist until you can prove otherwise. I mean, you're talking an alleged GOD here. While everywhere there are thousands of statues and stone inscriptions made to honor all kinds of important leaders, and even not so important people, but of this alleged Jesus, NOTHING. Not a trace outside of the Jesus myth found in the bible.
So it's up to you to come up with some proof of his existence.
Since you avoided directly answering my question of:
"So there's nothing "crazy" about turning staffs into snakes, talking bushes, talking donkeys, iron chariots can defeat "god", "god" can go around impregnating physical women, the earth sits on pillars, etc?"
Wanna try answering those crazy issues directly?
Or are you saying that you find all that perfectly "normal"?
And the use of "pillars" to hold up the earth has nothing to do with poetry. It was not used in a poem.
And what about this crazy image of the Christian Jesus:
Revelation 7. - And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes,.
Some crazy looking "god".
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I'm sorry, but did you ask a question? It seemed like you were just offering your viewpoint.
You said it was incorrectly quoted but offered no substantive reason. You asked me if I worship gods and I answered.
So... what is your question? If you would care to be a little clearer in your posts, I could happily address it better
Ancient Soul
The Spiritual Universe
I'm sorry, but did you ask a question? It seemed like you were just offering your viewpoint.
You said it was incorrectly quoted but offered no substantive reason. You asked me if I worship gods and I answered.
So... what is your question? If you would care to be a little clearer in your posts, I could happily address it better
Sigh...
It was plain enough.
I should have known I'd just get the usual tactics of avoidance.
Finally you left out the insults. Now we can talk.
Evidence outside of the Bible.
See last post please.
The "earth on pillars" was mentioned in a song, a song of Asaph's, see Psalms 75:4. It was poetry, I think. Songs can include poetry. That's the nature of songs. Even today you find poetry in songs.
The Book of Revelation includes prophecy. It IS prophecy. Prophecy in turn has imagery. Metaphors such as the "Lamb".
Jesus also was called "the door", "the way", and so on. All of which is prophecy, I think.
Yours is a common myth. There is historical evidence for Jesus. See What is the historical evidence that Jesus Christ lived and died?.
Evidence outside of the Bible.
I answered it. I wrote: To me, there is nothing crazy about the almighty God performing miracles. Other people find that crazy, though.
See last post please.
The "earth on pillars" was mentioned in a song, a song of Asaph's, see Psalms 75:4. It was poetry, I think. Songs can include poetry. That's the nature of songs. Even today you find poetry in songs.
The Book of Revelation includes prophecy. It IS prophecy. Prophecy in turn has imagery. Metaphors such as the "Lamb".
Jesus also was called "the door", "the way", and so on. All of which is prophecy, I think.
I figured you were just trolling and didn't have a real point. Get back to me when you have a real question where you give a supportive counter-point.
Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
I thought catholics believe Jesus is literaly one of the three persons of God. Have you sources about your claim that modern day catholics think Jesus is only God figurately?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
No, it's not "figuratively", but that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are of the essence* of God. IOW, it was not symbolic, but real.
*essence: "the intrinsic nature or indispensable quality of something, especially something abstract, that determines its character."
Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Ok, so you believe in the offical trinity? It seems like you believe in social trinity theory. What do you think about psychological model of the Trinity ( by Augustine)?
What are the different models of the Trinity in the Christian tradition? - Greg Boyd - ReKnew
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Why are you assuming I believe in it?
Secondly, in Catholicism, it's frequently referred to as the "mystery of the Trinity",
Thirdly, different denominations have had different interpretations as to what that actually is, which should be of no surprise.
John D. Brey
Well-Known Member
. . . Like when Israel looked up at the shrine Moses erected and were healed either by its intrinsic power, or else by the power of God, which, by the councils of his will, he appears to have entangled in, or with, the shrine?
In Israel some brilliant scientists recently proved that not only can two particles be entangled such that communication between the two appears to transgress classical physics (the law against faster than light communication), leading to the concept of non-locality (since communication occurs between the two particles as though no space is being traversed to slow down the communication), but beyond that, at least according to these brilliant scientists, they've now discovered non-locality's twin sister: non-temporality; they've shown that particles can be entangled in a manner that transgresses the arrow of time.
So what?
Well, my point is that in the same way God's power was entangled with the serpent-rod although the laws of physics, and the laws of Jewish monotheism, poo poo such a thing (which is to say that it appears the power of God was indeed entangled in a non-local way -----as though heaven and earth came together in a branch lifted in the desert), likewise, that non-local entanglement of heaven and earth seems to have doubly entangled, atemporally, with the latter-day lifting of what Jews consider a serpent-tongue on a branch in the desert?
For the slow-witted, or those who just don't see what I've knitted together (shatnez), heaven and earth aren't local places when Moses lifts the serpent-rod since they come together (against the law of shatnez, monotheism, and physics) in one place that destroys the allegedly separate localities known and heaven and earth. . . Furthermore, if a branch lifted up on a skull-looking rock outside Jerusalem can be looked at, prayers for healing be offered up, as though heaven and earth once again became non-local (i.e., the same place), then it appears that Moses' healing-rod and the crucifix are in a quantum-entanglement affected by both non-locality and atemporality?
John
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