A woman once told me that it's not the size that counts, but what you do with it.
Do you think she was talking about IQ?
Do you think she was talking about IQ?
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"Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?"
- Thread starter ReluctantMathematician
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You seem to be dumbing down all those throughout history who have made contributions to our knowledge, and who most probably were of high intelligence. Expect the masses to have done so?
PS I didn't join MENSA, even though I passed the entrance test - precisely because I saw no benefit in such.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
If you are that intelligent you can also see the limit in your example.
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wellwisher
Well-Known Member
One correlation that is not mentioned is, students from Catholic and other religious based High Schools consistently test higher, on state and national standard tests, than do their peers in the secular based public High Schools. Even atheist, nonreligious and nondenominational parents, will enroll their children in specific religious high schools for a better education.
One difference has to do with the approach each school type uses in terms of education. The religious schools uses more traditional approaches to education; reading, writing, arithmetic and discipline. The more atheist controlled public high schools, in an attempt to drive out all mention of God and/or appease their agenda of social progressivism, will try to create different methods of teaching, which are not as intuitive or test proven.
What is called cynical atheist intelligence, often leads to change, for the sake of change and/or to appease collective bias, without thinking through the long term implications of their methods. The USA used to test at the top internationally; old school, but now it is in the middle due to being taking over by the self proclaimed intelligent.
When the better educated children from religious schools go off to college, which are run by the same Progressive brain trust that has down graded the public educational system, the sudden dumbing down has an adverse affect, on their once better and more opened minded performance. They have to dumb down or be censored, since free speech is dangerous to indoctrination by the so-called intelligent, who think they know better.
One difference has to do with the approach each school type uses in terms of education. The religious schools uses more traditional approaches to education; reading, writing, arithmetic and discipline. The more atheist controlled public high schools, in an attempt to drive out all mention of God and/or appease their agenda of social progressivism, will try to create different methods of teaching, which are not as intuitive or test proven.
What is called cynical atheist intelligence, often leads to change, for the sake of change and/or to appease collective bias, without thinking through the long term implications of their methods. The USA used to test at the top internationally; old school, but now it is in the middle due to being taking over by the self proclaimed intelligent.
When the better educated children from religious schools go off to college, which are run by the same Progressive brain trust that has down graded the public educational system, the sudden dumbing down has an adverse affect, on their once better and more opened minded performance. They have to dumb down or be censored, since free speech is dangerous to indoctrination by the so-called intelligent, who think they know better.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I don't know where to begin. That students from Catholic and other religious based High Schools consistently test higher may not have anything to do with them be religious or educating differently. That could be the case, because...
If you know what you are doing, you can continue and ask several critical analytical questions as to because...
And this thread and others like it implicitly insult people of average intelligence (as far as IQ tests go) who make the great majority of major contributions to humanity but don't get the fame for it, as if people who didn't score high enough on some test are lesser, which is exactly what threads like these imply (they're thinly veiled insults). Acting like you're superior because of your IQ test results is just as stupid as believing you're superior due to skin color, heritage, gender, sexual orientation or any other arbitrary trait that you had little or no control over.You seem to be dumbing down all those throughout history who have made contributions to our knowledge, and who most probably were of high intelligence. Expect the masses to have done so?
PS I didn't join MENSA, even though I passed the entrance test - precisely because I saw no benefit in such.
You can be an extremely smart person but have an average IQ score as it doesn't test for all aspects of knowledge and experience. Just because you're not that great at math or engineering doesn't mean you're stupid. You just think differently and have other strengths. We need all types of intelligence for society to function well. Also, having high intelligence in technical areas doesn't mean you have high emotional intelligence. People having one but not the other happens so often that it's become a stereotype (like characters such as Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory, who are mathematical geniuses but hugely deficient in social skills and empathy, which are far more important in daily life and regular functioning). Our ancestors didn't need physics equations in order to survive, but they did need each other.
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Illustrates my point very well.
Well she certainly wasn't talking about ______. Although the best of both worlds is a bonus
I didn't join either because although i am sure i would have passed the test i couldn't make head not tail of it
One of the smartest people I ever knew
became a clerk type in a library. Not all
have ambition. This is perfectly fine.
That's part of why I don't see the point of gloating about it. It's not really an accomplishment in of itself.
Cooky
Veteran Member
Why are you acting like you're saying something I don't already know and havent already said?
...Are you just reiterating my points for me?
The obvious reason, which I already pointed out, is that people who struggle in life tend to be more religious because they need God in their lives to help cope with the injustices they face.
I've no need to gloat about being better
than everyone else. To enjoy it is enuf.
Voted it a winner but it deserves a funny almost as much
Cooky
Veteran Member
Getting a little cocky are we? It's not "You have faith, we have IQ"... it's more like: we have the humble, and the meek, and you have the cocky and the arrogant.
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What you really needed was a <insufferably pompous> frubal.
That would do.
Cooky
Veteran Member
I despise cocky, arrogant people. Most well mannered people do.
Maybe that's why atheists are typically shunned from the political spectrum... Because many are so arrogant, they can't be trusted. But not all, as @Revoltingest, and some others have shown us.
Maybe that's why atheists are typically shunned from the political spectrum... Because many are so arrogant, they can't be trusted. But not all, as @Revoltingest, and some others have shown us.
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Heyo
Veteran Member
Offence is taken, never given.
As you point out yourself, the result of an IQ test doesn't say any more about the value of a person than the result of a heparin test.
But you feel insulted when some points out that the group you belong to (not yourself, mind you) has a lower average IQ than another group. Why?
Can it be that you yourself don't believe that the IQ doesn't say anything about value?