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Do you fear Death?

The Hammer

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Premium Member
Your question suggests that anything that isn't instinctual is planned, which is preposterous.

I'm not inclined of being drawn into a debate on whether or not anxiety is an instinct in this, a non-debate thread.

No. "Suggestions" need asked for clarification before accepting the suggestions as if it were facts. Anxiety is instinctual. It's natural to have anxiety of death. It's a flight and fright response. There is a lot of resources on this information if you're more for conversation. It was never meant to be a debate.

As your link says, anxiety is psychological, physiological, and behavioural in nature. There are both genetic, personality and environmental factors involved. Anxiety over a real and immediate issue is to be expected, but persisting anxiety is considered to be a mental health issue.

Fear: Is it innate or learned?
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I don’t fear death itself. I fear how I might die. If it’s quick, so much the better. Even a slow death from illness is preferable to an accident in which I slowly bleed out, or experience intense pain and panic as I die.

Only once in my life, July of 2019, did I get upset at the thought. I was experiencing what a few doctors though was CHF. I learned that the survival rate for CHF is not all that great. I was driving home from work, when I started crying and said “I don’t want to die” over and over, thinking it was a real possibility I might not have much time. It turns out the doctors were wrong and it was not CHF.

As far as my view on the aftermath of leaving my body, that’s what I don’t fear. My beliefs and views can be found in chapter 2.11-30 of the Bhagavad Gita. I won’t quote it, because it can come off preachy, but anyone is free to look it up.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
I had cancer and experienced pain, constant operations, tears of friends, inability to clean vomit and poop, and expenses. When fear of living outweighs fear of dying, and death is inevitable, death is accepted. Kevorkian (assisted suicide) was wrong to have killed the depressed, but right to have offered a painless escape to the terminally ill. Even if death is not imminent, but the quality of life is greatly diminished. California, Oregon, and numerous states have new laws allowing people, not governments, to decide suicide (if terminally ill).

I merely carried on, did what I had to do (immuno-therapy). I didn't feel good about amateur nurses jabbing needles in my arm for anesthetic for operations over a period of two hours (continuously every second or so).

All old people have earned the right to fear death. Yet, constant fear won't change the outcome. Every infant marches inevitably closer to death with every passing year--we all die. The best way to deal with it is to prepare (life insurance, funeral plot, take meds), but largely forget the grim reaper, and focus on enjoying the time that we have left. In a senior center, they are all old, yet having fun playing games and ignoring the specter of death.

Karen Ann Quinlan was brain dead (though some saw signs of brain activity). It was thought to be cruel to give her poison to instantly put her to sleep and die. The solution (thought humane by some, and thought inhumane by me) was to take her off of the breathing machine, not give her food or water. After days, she died (if conscience at all, she died suffering). Kevorkian was right in this case.

Charlatans offer cures to the terminally ill (while still living, have your head cut off and quick frozen). Yet, with modern technology, freezing human cells disrupts the membranes, causing death. They offer the idea that in the future they might be revived and put on an artificial body. The law should consider the procedure murder, and should consider the promises to be misleading.

I fear lovers of life more than death, itself. Idiots who torture the terminally ill to death, idiots who keep alive the dying regardless of pain, regardless of quality of life, or willingness to die, and idiots who think that they have to control the destiny of everyone.
 

agorman

Active Member
Premium Member
with modern technology, freezing human cells disrupts the membranes, causing death.

I don't know; see this page at the ALCOR's website; now they talk about another process called vitrification:

Vitrification can preserve biological structure very well – much better than freezing.
Vitrification is the transformation of a substance into a glassy solid. High concentrations of cryoprotectants permit biological tissue to be cooled to very low temperatures with little to no ice formation. It is now possible to physically vitrify organs as large as the human brain, achieving excellent structural preservation without freezing.

Anyway I'm agree with Euthanasia if there's absolutely no other choice, material or spiritual. Moreover, I'd apply Euthanasia to some politicians anytime; myself. Yes, with my own hands.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
So my own death crops up in my mind every once in a while, and I typically take stock of that fact and move on.

But, I recently was reading an article online in regards to death anxiety and the fact that, this tends to follow people throughout their lives, whether they realize it or not. Upon reading this, I was reminded of a very memorable religious experience that made me realize that I am not that afraid of death anymore, at least not like I used to be. I took this as a sign of having mostly reduced my own inner death anxiety, but alas the Gods have a sense of humor.

While I was traversing the dreamscapes of sleep, I was shot at near point blank range in the head. I was absolutely terrified, lol. I felt my life ebbing away, and the only thought to cross my mind was "not now" and then I turned to the person on my right and I told them I loved them, before I woke up in a cold sweat.

Do you fear death? Have you ever died completely in a dream?

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Like Mark Twain would say: I have been dead billions of years, and I did not suffer any inconvenience.

ciao

- viole
 
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