Heyo
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Glad we came to that agreement.
Always happy to debate and discuss but since we finally agree, I see no further reason to debate in this thread.
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I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"
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A Vestigial Mote
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You're the one who first asked if I was happy. If you didn't expect me to reply to that because it would be "off topic," then WHY DID YOU ASK?
A Vestigial Mote
Well-Known Member
So no actual refutation that you were being passively-aggressively annoying on purpose with the OP? Maybe just answer my question first, and then I will let you know whether or not I even care about your ridiculous example-list of garbage above.A question was asked to me in this thread: what does "devoting time for god" look like? Two or three examples for clarity would be helpful. We need some way to assess whether or not "atheists" are engaging in these behaviors or not.
Examples were:
Example 1: Remember God.
Example 2: Praising God.
Example 3: Do anything that takes your attention towards God.
I thought, you have read that examples. Perhaps not.
Please read example number 3 very carefully. I hope you are deep enough to catch the answer. Or, tell me if still you don't understand, thank you.
chinu
chinu
Saying off topic doesn't mean that reply is NOT expected.
chinu
chinu
A Vestigial Mote
Well-Known Member
That's exactly what I thought. Stay credible @chinu. And by that I mean "HAHAHAHA!"
Atheism is a form of religion or belief, just like identity politics. Unbelief or rejection that there is God does not mean an atheist does not adhere to any belief at all. Any belief is a kind of religion so an atheist is also a very religious person. Their belief that there is NO God does not mean there is NO God at all, it's their religious belief that there is NO God, but they are a very religious group of people too.
Earlier, you said:
This presupposes a distinction between the gods and the world. If the gods and the world are not distinct from one another, it is not possible to give priority to one or the other. Giving priority to one is the same as giving priority to the other.
chinu
chinu
Giving priority/primary to something doesn't mean we cannot put something to secondary. Anyways.
Yes, devotion is difficult. Its NOT that easy task. Saying that it is easy, was my helplessness when you replied with the following wordings:
If that time I would have said that it is difficult you would have never accepted that, thank you.
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oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
But which Gods are supposed to be genuine and which artificial.??
Atheists believe all God's are artificial.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
If males as humans think, and saw, and said what they saw was HOLY and said it is seen, therefore I do not own it. Then it was said for a fact.
Science quotes I use facts of evidence to quote science in a truth.
Any scientist would quote, evolution in space has nothing at all to do with my life, and the bodies are self present, SEEN and by natural evolution if I said do not involve science in thesis about the cosmos, as the huge bodies prove that what is intended to represent the theme Creator or Gods, were the planets.
And the old science theory said, that the God/s fell as the angels from out of the eternal as the origin of the highest form of God.
You would SEE and look first which is the state NATURAL and spiritual, wholeness and quote....I SEE difference in the space body and variations. Why a theist in the ancient science words and symbolism told these quotes.
If you want to argue a theory about God, you therefore first have to idealise what your own claim to God is. So then you ask science in theories for design and machine reactions can you SEE God? By their definition it is a no.
Hence their ideas of God existing says if I cannot see it then it is not real.
Yet this form of scientist is not the scientist who believed in God. Religious science did. So you can ask both forms of science, old science thesis and modern day science thesis, what right do either group have to claim themes about God in science, when science already said, if it is not SEEN then it is not reality?
The philosopher quotes, God was the planet and the STONE. And stone its own entity/body an angel of God then released its stone gases, held within a stone mass to form its own heavens.
Relativity no science is related to God. Modern science theist quote, there is no God for science is correct. For the human psyche is acutely aware.
Science says quote....the planet and stone. Philosophy said God the first and one was the stone. That form of science thinking is quote "not incorrect".
Then you have the Satanic theme that quotes.....God is in the Heavens as a spirit.
In science the old term for spirit is the gas state...as compared to the mass/stone status. Spirit versus the flesh of God.
A human living inside of the body of the heavens, as a self, quotes and no man is God, for they knew no man is God.
The preaching about how Jesus the Lord God as a thesis statement inferred details why was the male life attacked by the origin of God, the fused stone. When fused stone had been sealed in the spatial vacuum that had sucked out the radiating burning gas mass to own cold/sealed stone.
And the answer to his life sacrifice was that he released the spirit of the stone from beneath his feet.
The reason the thesis and God the stone planet attacked life, was due to occult radiation converting of mass science. And the science self by historical themes knows that radiation fusion of mass was when the Sun had attacked Earth yet it was ceased. The mountain mass beneath the water flood of Earth saved/safe.
So when he theoried about God the stone as a thesis, he knew the mountain mass was no longer kept safe by water mass. Origin theme of radiation was incoming from the Sun.
Science however activated outgoing God stone mass radiation, and it came from beneath the Earth/and it is why the mountain was attacked at the ground level in striations/dust and sand release.
Why the thesis God is relevant to all arguments in science.
Ask a human a simple question in science. If no human owned a life, because we all one day die. Imagine that we all died in the same one moment. No thesis about God would exist, and your claim to spiritual being would be self, the human.
Now when you discuss God and Jesus, isn't Jesus quoted to be a human male/man? And isn't the theme Lord/King ....K being the symbol for constant Earth release of radiation a doing function of the planet in its owned sacrifice/losses?
That then attacked and sacrificed the only real man/male living on God the first/one Earth....and made his life give up his spirit...water/oxygen/microbes to form image in the cloud mass that had to own flooding to cool the heavenly gases?
And for a theist to exist, are you not all in reality egotists, for since when are any of you personal owners of the states which you discuss as relative to a thesis to want to alter natural? How the teachings of the natural spiritual human was a versus thesis against science in its statements. Yet today science claims it owns the rights to argue about God, when the argument was science versus natural life survival.
Science quotes I use facts of evidence to quote science in a truth.
Any scientist would quote, evolution in space has nothing at all to do with my life, and the bodies are self present, SEEN and by natural evolution if I said do not involve science in thesis about the cosmos, as the huge bodies prove that what is intended to represent the theme Creator or Gods, were the planets.
And the old science theory said, that the God/s fell as the angels from out of the eternal as the origin of the highest form of God.
You would SEE and look first which is the state NATURAL and spiritual, wholeness and quote....I SEE difference in the space body and variations. Why a theist in the ancient science words and symbolism told these quotes.
If you want to argue a theory about God, you therefore first have to idealise what your own claim to God is. So then you ask science in theories for design and machine reactions can you SEE God? By their definition it is a no.
Hence their ideas of God existing says if I cannot see it then it is not real.
Yet this form of scientist is not the scientist who believed in God. Religious science did. So you can ask both forms of science, old science thesis and modern day science thesis, what right do either group have to claim themes about God in science, when science already said, if it is not SEEN then it is not reality?
The philosopher quotes, God was the planet and the STONE. And stone its own entity/body an angel of God then released its stone gases, held within a stone mass to form its own heavens.
Relativity no science is related to God. Modern science theist quote, there is no God for science is correct. For the human psyche is acutely aware.
Science says quote....the planet and stone. Philosophy said God the first and one was the stone. That form of science thinking is quote "not incorrect".
Then you have the Satanic theme that quotes.....God is in the Heavens as a spirit.
In science the old term for spirit is the gas state...as compared to the mass/stone status. Spirit versus the flesh of God.
A human living inside of the body of the heavens, as a self, quotes and no man is God, for they knew no man is God.
The preaching about how Jesus the Lord God as a thesis statement inferred details why was the male life attacked by the origin of God, the fused stone. When fused stone had been sealed in the spatial vacuum that had sucked out the radiating burning gas mass to own cold/sealed stone.
And the answer to his life sacrifice was that he released the spirit of the stone from beneath his feet.
The reason the thesis and God the stone planet attacked life, was due to occult radiation converting of mass science. And the science self by historical themes knows that radiation fusion of mass was when the Sun had attacked Earth yet it was ceased. The mountain mass beneath the water flood of Earth saved/safe.
So when he theoried about God the stone as a thesis, he knew the mountain mass was no longer kept safe by water mass. Origin theme of radiation was incoming from the Sun.
Science however activated outgoing God stone mass radiation, and it came from beneath the Earth/and it is why the mountain was attacked at the ground level in striations/dust and sand release.
Why the thesis God is relevant to all arguments in science.
Ask a human a simple question in science. If no human owned a life, because we all one day die. Imagine that we all died in the same one moment. No thesis about God would exist, and your claim to spiritual being would be self, the human.
Now when you discuss God and Jesus, isn't Jesus quoted to be a human male/man? And isn't the theme Lord/King ....K being the symbol for constant Earth release of radiation a doing function of the planet in its owned sacrifice/losses?
That then attacked and sacrificed the only real man/male living on God the first/one Earth....and made his life give up his spirit...water/oxygen/microbes to form image in the cloud mass that had to own flooding to cool the heavenly gases?
And for a theist to exist, are you not all in reality egotists, for since when are any of you personal owners of the states which you discuss as relative to a thesis to want to alter natural? How the teachings of the natural spiritual human was a versus thesis against science in its statements. Yet today science claims it owns the rights to argue about God, when the argument was science versus natural life survival.
chinu
chinu
The one which belongs to whole mankind is genuine.
That's the beauty of atheism. And I suggest NOT to loose this beauty UNTIL find the correct / genuine one.Atheists believe all God's are artificial.
alsome
Member
Atheists are just people searching for a purpose to believe in any gods.
The real purpose of any god should be the life of it's creatures to be comfortable and devoted to their life, not the promise of death from their god. We will all die sometime, and I hope you will end up where you wanted. Spirits were mentioned here, weren't they ?
So these spirits are a part of the "Supreme Creator"? And he wants them back in Heaven.
In all, it was a pretty good read, if one believes in Heaven, or hell for that matter. But to be devoted to the gods that have been created by man, I'll have to keep searching
The real purpose of any god should be the life of it's creatures to be comfortable and devoted to their life, not the promise of death from their god. We will all die sometime, and I hope you will end up where you wanted. Spirits were mentioned here, weren't they ?
So these spirits are a part of the "Supreme Creator"? And he wants them back in Heaven.
In all, it was a pretty good read, if one believes in Heaven, or hell for that matter. But to be devoted to the gods that have been created by man, I'll have to keep searching
rational experiences
Veteran Member
The one which belongs to whole mankind is genuine.
That's the beauty of atheism. And I suggest NOT to loose this beauty UNTIL find the correct / genuine one.
Philosophy, to speak using words and describe as a living human, the man and male the only one man that tells the stories about God, in the status sciences.
Spiritual to use words. Satanism, to build machines and attack/change what is said to be the Holy One. O God the stone planet, first, the entity creator of its own stone gas heavenly spirits. So what one of beauty are you genuinely going to find, when you are already standing on it?
Ephesians 6:13 13Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
1 Corinthians 16:13 13Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be courageous; be strong.
The philosophy statements own a misconstrued statement first, as no man is God, then it changes to the real human status about self telling the only truth. The planet was always first and one and God.
If a human quotes that the spirit of God was first, the status would be a burning gas mass, and not the cold gas heavenly spirit that keeps us all safe.
chinu
chinu
I don't think I disagreed upon this anytime.
Am happy too. Its my pleasure to debate and discuss. please ?
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
It's not. Just like not playing soccer is not a form of sport.
I believe a lot of things. None of which is defined or determined by the label "atheism". The label "atheism" only refers to a specific thing that I do NOT believe.
Atheism is not a belief. By definition. Theism is the belief. Atheism is just a label for when one does not hold a theistic belief.
That's not atheism.
Atheism is answering "no" to the question "do you believe a god exists?"
It's not (not necessarily anyway) answering "yes" to the question "do you believe that NO god exists"?
I'm sorry if you are unable to comprehend the difference, if that is the case.
No. And by now, if you read this post with a bit of attention, you will understand why.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
That is not the case for this atheist.
I'm not "searching" for reasons ("purpose"? strange word to use here) to believe in god(s). Just like I'm not "searching" for reasons to believe in unicorns or alien abduction.
Instead, I only say that people who make claims about god(s), simply failed to provide me what rational reasons to believe said claims. So I don't.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
The one which belongs to whole mankind is genuine.
That's the beauty of atheism. And I suggest NOT to loose this beauty UNTIL find the correct / genuine one.
That's the truth.
The reason why I am a Deist is because for me the Diety does not 'belong' to all mankind but belongs to and is part of everything, every material, every force and everything else, the all and the nothing........ of everything that is. Wow!
... uh... there's been some sort of miscommunication here. Not sure what you're going on about or where these assumptions are coming from. Oh well.
alsome
Member
@TagliatelliMonster ,
I said: " purpose to believe in any gods". 'A reason' equals 'purpose' and 'any' includes 'all'.
Same thing to my eyes ! I'm not a true atheist yet, as the spirit area fascinates me.
I said: " purpose to believe in any gods". 'A reason' equals 'purpose' and 'any' includes 'all'.
Same thing to my eyes ! I'm not a true atheist yet, as the spirit area fascinates me.