Pipiripi
End Times Prophecy.
What was ended was the sacrifices till Jesus has wake up from the death.
Read the book of Hebrews my friend.
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(Christians only) Did Jesus Dead on the Cross has Put an End to God's Law?
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Read the book of Hebrews my friend.
MonkeyFire
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I believe Jesus was saved in the quran, and the devil has no purpose in Heaven, temptation is devil dog. For pacifism to reign in triumph is the nature of glory.
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Huh? I find Jesus was speaking to none other than those hate-filled Pharisees at Luke 17:20-21.
So, to say that Jesus was speaking to the apostle that the kingdom is next them and in them is a wrong religious teaching.
What was within them those Pharisees of verses 20-21 was what Jesus said at Mark 7:20-23.
Only AFTER Jesus addresses the Pharisees of Luke 17:20-21 then in verse 22 Jesus addresses his followers.
Please note what Jesus says to his followers at Luke 19:11-15 that the kingdom would NOT immediately or instantly appear.
So, it seems to me someone has misguided your friend about what the Bible really teaches.
Yes, I agree with Matthew 5:17 that Jesus came to fulfill the Law which he did according to Romans 10:4.
Heaven (God's home) and Earth (our home ) is permanent - Ecclesiastes 1:4 B that Earth abides forever.
So, Matthew 5:18 underscores how impossible it is that the Law would be un-fulfilled.
Huh? Jesus was No pacifist. Jesus is King ( ruler ) of God's kingdom government - Daniel 2:44; Daniel 7:13-14.
Jesus reigns in triumph as king of God's theocratic kingdom for a thousand years - 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.
Jesus soon coming ' glory time ' as King is soon ahead of us - Matthew 25:31-33, 34,40.
Faithofchristian
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Well it's evidence that you have no clue or idea what your talking about.
Matthew 5:1-19..is all about the law of the kingdom of heaven..
And not one word is found about the
10 commandment law.
Pipiripi
End Times Prophecy.
Read Isaiah 65:17, 66:22. 2Peter 3:13.
Revelation 21:1. Are those verses doesn't make you see that what we living now are going to burn out?
Do this heaven and earth has PASSED away? Or we are living still on it waiting for Jesus second return?
Jesus says: "THINK NOT!! And I don't think. Matthew 5:17-18.
Pipiripi
End Times Prophecy.
What is Law, and prophet for you? Who has wrote the laws? Who have read the laws for the people?
Pipiripi
End Times Prophecy.
My friend Romans 10:4 Jesus has shown us the true meaning of it. Because they have come with traditions in the Commandments. They are the same 10 Commandments but not with an eye for an eye, but if someone hit you in your face, let them hit you also the other side. The rules have changed NOT THE LAWS.
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
Law divides human behavior into right and wrong, and good and evil. Law is connected to the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden. This tree was occupied by Satan. This tree was not to be eaten of. Law is connected to original sin.
Law is a unique form of neural memory. It is not found in nature. Law of good and evil creates a polarization within the human mind that is not natural. Law is like a two sided coin with one side labeled good and the other sided label evil. If we flip a coin, when it land we can only see one side at a time. The other side remains part of the coin but is hidden.
With law even if you do good, the bad side of the coin is still part of the law memory. We need to know both sides to do good and avoid evil. One side becomes hidden causing evil to become unconscious. This is why the self righteous, who outwardly obey the law, can become cruel and intolerant; unconscious compulsion from the hidden flip side of the coin. Law is not natural.
Law was useful in terms of helping humans develop will power and choice. One can use law to learn to choose which side of the law coin will be up, good or evil. However, since this two sided coins perpetuates knowledge of both good and evil and that other side becomes unconscious, evil can be spawned from good; ends justified the means.. For example, the spying on Trump Campaign in 2016 is still justified as good by the left and media even though spying was illegal and therefore evil by the law. The confusion between conscious and unconscious choices; two sided coin, can mess with the mind.
Jesus saw this polarization caused by the tree of knowledge and Satan. The unconscious dark side caused the Pharisees to condemn an innocent man in the name of law. Jesus taught faith instead of law. Faith is similar to animal instinct where the animal acts on impulse, without needing to assess good and evil based on cultural norms. This approach is the tree of life. Jesus is said it is not yes and no, but yes in him; psychological polarization is healed.
With the charisma of faith and the tree of life, decisions become very similar to the good side of the law, since nature is basically good. But there is no unconscious evil lurking below the threshold of consciousness created by law. Law was sort of a prosthesis to help create a contrasting scaffolding, so the good could be seen and understood. Jesus removed the prosthesis of evil; contrast, so only the good was left through faith. Law is not good, only the good side of law is good. Law is good and evil.
Law is a unique form of neural memory. It is not found in nature. Law of good and evil creates a polarization within the human mind that is not natural. Law is like a two sided coin with one side labeled good and the other sided label evil. If we flip a coin, when it land we can only see one side at a time. The other side remains part of the coin but is hidden.
With law even if you do good, the bad side of the coin is still part of the law memory. We need to know both sides to do good and avoid evil. One side becomes hidden causing evil to become unconscious. This is why the self righteous, who outwardly obey the law, can become cruel and intolerant; unconscious compulsion from the hidden flip side of the coin. Law is not natural.
Law was useful in terms of helping humans develop will power and choice. One can use law to learn to choose which side of the law coin will be up, good or evil. However, since this two sided coins perpetuates knowledge of both good and evil and that other side becomes unconscious, evil can be spawned from good; ends justified the means.. For example, the spying on Trump Campaign in 2016 is still justified as good by the left and media even though spying was illegal and therefore evil by the law. The confusion between conscious and unconscious choices; two sided coin, can mess with the mind.
Jesus saw this polarization caused by the tree of knowledge and Satan. The unconscious dark side caused the Pharisees to condemn an innocent man in the name of law. Jesus taught faith instead of law. Faith is similar to animal instinct where the animal acts on impulse, without needing to assess good and evil based on cultural norms. This approach is the tree of life. Jesus is said it is not yes and no, but yes in him; psychological polarization is healed.
With the charisma of faith and the tree of life, decisions become very similar to the good side of the law, since nature is basically good. But there is no unconscious evil lurking below the threshold of consciousness created by law. Law was sort of a prosthesis to help create a contrasting scaffolding, so the good could be seen and understood. Jesus removed the prosthesis of evil; contrast, so only the good was left through faith. Law is not good, only the good side of law is good. Law is good and evil.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
Had you known
Matthew 5:17--" think not that I have come to destroy the law or the Prophets:
I am not to come but to fulfill"
The Lord Jesus Christ did just that fulfilled the law and the Prophets.
The Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled the law of the kingdom of heaven also..
By keeping the law of the kingdom of heaven himself.
Thereby giving the law of the kingdom of heaven to those people that were with himself In Matthew 5::1-2.
1--"And seeing the multitude he went up into a mountain and when he was set , his disciples came into him"
2--"And he open his mouth and taught them, saying, Blessed are the poor in spirit it, for their is the kingdom of heaven"
Notice in Verse 1 that Jesus is went up into a mountain and given the people of Israel the law of the kingdom of heaven.
Note also that Moses went up into a mountain and given the people of Israel God's 10 commandment law.
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
If Jesus weren't passive then the whole universe would be murdered. If God created hurt, then he created his own suffering and he could have bad karma for this.
Pipiripi
End Times Prophecy.
What Jesus has fulfilled is the ending of the sacrifices. Why you don't go and read the book of Hebrews? Isn't it in your Bible? Read it completely so that you can understand what was nailed on the cross.
Pipiripi
End Times Prophecy.
My friend I have understand your ehempel, but as we put the coin in front of a mirror we seen both. And that is exactly what we are. We see with our carnal eyes, and also our spiritual eyes. My friend very simple, if there is no law, there is no sin. So let's begin to steal, kill, idolatry, destroy because there is no law anymore. So it is over. We are free to do whatever we want. This is what Jesus death on the cross represents to us. This is the teaching today.
Pipiripi
End Times Prophecy.
My friend is this earth and heaven has PASSED away? If not! Then Jesus says: " THINK NOT "
So, the whole other titles and verses are following this word of Jesus. From Matthew till Revelation Jesus WORD will STAND TILL THIS HEAVEN AND EARTH HAS PASSED AWAY. AND THE DAY AFTER THE 1000 YEARS MILLENNIUM, JESUS RETURNED TO EARTH TO DESTROY SATAN AND ALL THAT DOESN'T HAVE OBEY HIM. THIS PEOPLE BELONG TO GOD. REVELATION 12:17 REVELATION 14:12
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Pipiripi
End Times Prophecy.
I understand you, but what do you think about those verses?
Matthew 5:17-18.
Romans 8:4, 7. Read verse 1-7
Revelation 12:17, 14:12.
There are more, but begin to think about those. Those writings are after Jesus was taken in heaven.
People was never enslaved to the law. God Ten Commandments are Commandments of Love. Read Romans 7:7-11
I'll look them over and will reply tomorrow.
74x12
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Sin began in heaven according to my belief.
The earth and heaven have passed away for those who are in the body of Jesus Christ. All things are become new. It's just what the Bible says.
2 Cor. 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
You're either part of this present world or part of the one to come.
I find in Scripture: sin began in the Garden of Eden on Earth. The first sin ( first lie ) took place on Eden - Genesis 3:4
Earth abides forever - Ecclesiastes 1:4 B
So what will pass away is the former heavens ( governing heavens over mankind ) and corrupted earthly society. - Isaiah 65:17
Yes, under Christ all will be NEW - 2 Peter 3:13 - a righteous new world- Isaiah 65:21-25
The present world ( 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13) is coming to an end when Jesus separates people -> Matthew 25:31-33,37,40.
The figurative humble ' sheep ' can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth and be here to see calendar Day One of Jesus' governing over Earth for a thousand years - 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.